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Well I guess shit like this happens all the time.
My girlfriend got raped, doesn't matter the circumstances the fact is that, and when she told it to me I really listened her very calmy, of course my first reaction was anger and well you know, "I'm going to find the sucker and kill him even if the world cracks down", but now I'm pretty calm and I think things like "then what?, will that really ease and remove the pain and suffering she's going through, and return happiness to her life?. It will not".
But I'm, well, she's having a hard time. I made her go to get an HIV test: one has to take one each 3 months, and if you suspect you may caught the infection in less than 48 hr, there's a treatment. She took it. Anyway, she's very very depressed, because she still has to take the tests and if one, only one says it's positive, she's screwed. I also convinced her to take other gynechological tests, to explore herpes, papilome, and other diseases. Moreover, her mind has been affected, and she will likely need to go to a psycologist.
I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all.
Thing is guys, I really don't know how to feal. It's tough very tough. And you know what. I don't know what I'm feeling now. I don't know if I want to cry or scream or be happy or kill or, I just don't know.
I just wanted to well, let go, scream some stuff and well, my plan from now and on is to be as supportive as I can. Well, try to bring her back the meaning of life and joy. She wants to go to church now and stuff (we've never been catholics), but my heart tells me that if she wants to go and if she feels it's important to her it is to me.
If you have any ideas to share, it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks.
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My only question is...
What map was it on?
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You just had to post something like that on TL.net. Unless you have 5000 posts or more there'll always be someone with something disagreeable to say.
EDIT: As the poster above.
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
heh
How was she raped?
Did someone kidnap her on the street, or threaten her, or attack her when she got home coming out of her car?
I'm glad you feel calm and not reckless, because going out and killing that guy who raped her is obviously a bad idea.
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wow i understand you a lot, this kind of shit suck
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I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all.
WTF Mate? that first line is messed up kiddo. Well best of luck to you and yours.
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gg_hertz i dont care about your posts, u r an idiot, do you have any idea how traumatic a situation like this is?
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
holy shit that was funny.
i laughed out loud ;D
p.s. this is very sad, go talk to both your parents and tell them, cops would be good too.
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On July 13 2005 18:30 PuertoRican wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
holy shit that was funny. i laughed out loud ;D
i did not
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Like you said: try and be supportive. Sometimes she will need you: to talk to her, to listen to her, or to be there to comfort her. Obviously get the cops involved and find out who did this. Do you have any leads (ie what he looks like, semen, etc). Maybe it would be helpful to have some shared psychologist classes together, so you can empathize more with her situation and be a better part of the healing process.
I don't really believe in your Humanism perspective on life; but that is neither here-nor-there.
Best of luck!
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
ROFL >
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I guess you are being very cool and acting good with this situation, however im pretty sure I would search for that guy til I found him :o
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The fact that you don't know what to feel says much about how your feelings toward her.
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I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all.
Either you are making this whole thing up, or you are an evil person.
I'll go with the first, because I don't see how anyone could not care that his girlfriend got FUCKING RAPED (you even sound content about it).
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She got dishonered. Kill your gf.
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
nice one!
Back on topic, how did she get raped? I'm willing to bet a lot of money it was because she was extremely drunk at a party and someone took advantage of that. It could also be because she was willing and she didn't want to hurt your feelings because when you found out she was cheating on you, she made up some story. It's really hard to give sympathy to this story because there is no information provided at all. We simply know she got raped, but how she got raped is still unclear. Was she partly to blame? Or did someone just totally abuse her? It's more fulfilling to give empathy to someone who died and took a bullet for some kids than it is to someone who died OD'ing on drugs.
Anyway, I hope she straightens out her life and that this experience doesn't haunt her for the rest of her life or cause her life to go downhill. Much love to you and your girlfriend.
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On July 13 2005 18:46 Legend wrote:Show nested quote +I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all. Either you are making this whole thing up, or you are an evil person. I'll go with the first, because I don't see how anyone could not care that his girlfriend got FUCKING RAPED (you even sound content about it). Meh, everyone is different. He is taking the calm route. I'm sure he cares, but he just doesn't want to complicate things further or something like that. Anyway, that really sucks man.
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I almost felt like making a joke asking whether he disconnected before typing out but I decided not to because I felt bad  .
Just do regular stuff and try to live normally.
edit: well I did anyway, but not as bad
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fuck it, there is no use, he's making this up
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I'm really sorry for you sir. Best of luck to you and your girlfriend.
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i actually think he raped someone
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The day I got raped i went back home and play broodwar till i passed out
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On July 13 2005 18:47 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
She got dishonered. Kill your gf.
ROFL
ROFL
ROFL
some of you guys have a lot of shit in your brains
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On July 13 2005 18:59 rei wrote:
The day I got raped i went back home and play broodwar till i passed out
lol
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Norway28598 Posts
I feel your pain
has happened to three friends of mine (that told me anyway. which makes me scared to think of how often it happens. )
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On July 13 2005 18:28 1337 wrote:
gg_hertz i dont care about your posts, u r an idiot, do you have any idea how traumatic a situation like this is?
I blame society for my insensitivity.
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hunt him down and rape him, eye for an eye..
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On July 13 2005 19:08 karelen wrote:
hunt him down and rape him, eye for an eye..
eewwwww 
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On July 13 2005 18:54 sonofek(scnoob) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 18:46 Legend wrote:I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all. Either you are making this whole thing up, or you are an evil person. I'll go with the first, because I don't see how anyone could not care that his girlfriend got FUCKING RAPED (you even sound content about it). Meh, everyone is different. He is taking the calm route. I'm sure he cares, but he just doesn't want to complicate things further or something like that. Anyway, that really sucks man.
What I meant was something like: If you go by foot through harlem with gold chains and rings, do you expect to not get robbed ? or are you really careful when you drive a car at 100 mph? if you crash and end up in a hospital what do you expect ?
Yes. I've tried to look at the situation and how I am handling it and so far I see that I am taking it calmy. Three or four years ago, I would have not rested until I tracked, found, lured and kill whoever did it. Today I am a very cold person. Right now I'm trying to handle it as cold as I can.
I don't feel good believe me. Accepting the truth is the hardest lesson man has to face.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter how it happened. That's not what I care and you shouldn't either, you're taking it the wrong way. She has to get an HIV test every 3 months for 1 year. Think if any of those tests gets positive. I am thinking how can I help her live through this whole year she has to be in jeopardy? And we have to be prepared for either a negative or a positive result. Plus the other tests to discard other deseases.
Btw, the Map joke was nice. It's always good to at least have a laugh even in the worst moments.
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wow what the fuck
how is it not possible that she did not get a look at the person?
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[/quote]What I meant was something like: If you go by foot through harlem with gold chains and rings, do you expect to not get robbed ? or are you really careful when you drive a car at 100 mph? if you crash and end up in a hospital what do you expect ?[/quote]
Going by those examples, i'm guessing she got raped because she went walking naked into a prison?
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damn i comprenhend you, and its very respectfull that you didnt react the "ima kill him, right now" way. i really think you SHOULD search for the guy, but not because you want revenge, because he deserves jail, and he must realize wtf he did....
anyway, i wish you good luck in all results. Lets hope the rapist was his first time or he doesnt get laid much.
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Let me get this straight:
You don't really care that your girlfriend got raped because she was in a situation that lends itself to it.
Think about that.
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On July 13 2005 19:08 karelen wrote:
hunt him down and rape him, eye for an eye..
Four maybe three years ago I would have done that, even worse. Actually when she told it to me it was the first thing that popped in my head. I called that "to act instinctivly", like an animal. No reasoning.
A couple of minutes, just minutes passed and I had another view of the situation. She is already having a bad time. She doesn't know if she has any decease. And she is very very depressed. She wants to (and I want her to) get well and come out with no deceases. So how can you want somebody to get well and on the other hand, have revenge, vengaence, pain and suffering feelings. Is revenge really worth it ? I don't know.
I feel like giving the other cheek, and you know what ? I think it's the right thing to do. I want all my feelings to be good now and be with her.
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Well it's not going to be easy that is for sure. You're just going to have to try to be there in whatever way she needs you to be, even if she doesn't tell you. Also I'm sure she'll probably feel really dirty and depressed so you're going to have to help her work on her self-esteem and shit.
And you're perception of life thing where you say oh if someone speeds at 100miles an hour and crash they deserve it etc. doesn't really apply to this. Because unless your girl purposely swalloed a date rape drug and met up with some escaped rape convict then it's totally not her fault.
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yeah i agree with that... what was the situation? was she at some kind of crazy party? was she doing drugs? was she walking down the street to buy some groceries?
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"My only question is...
What map was it on?"
... -___-;;
That kind of stuff sucks man, I hope everything goes ok for you and your girlfriend. Try to get the police involved or something, seriously.
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On July 13 2005 19:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I feel your pain
has happened to three friends of mine (that told me anyway. which makes me scared to think of how often it happens. )
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Drone you are a good person. One of the fewest I appreciate here.
Thanks
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I agree with Refrain. The least you can do is tell us how it happened, I mean we are curious.
I don't think there is much we can tell you or much that you can do except to keep pushing on in life.
Shit happens all the time, it happens to everyone, whether it happens now or it happens later there is nothing you can do but to keep living.
Be thankful she is alive. You and her have been through the worse. It can only get better from now on...
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On July 13 2005 19:14 Refrain[FriZ] wrote:
wow what the fuck
how is it not possible that she did not get a look at the person? Uh...knock her our with drugs?
Heck, if she was drunk enough so might not remember either.
That sucks man, be there for her.
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Think of it this way. If you had gone out and killed him, you yourself would most likely be in jail. That certainly doesn't help her out.
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On July 13 2005 19:14 Refrain[FriZ] wrote:
wow what the fuck
how is it not possible that she did not get a look at the person?
Ski mask?
I thought the map joke was well timed, considering he did get the first post, so... It was about as good as the time that guy with the eye staring at him was told to take off the ring.
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Norway28598 Posts
or maybe he doesn't really want to describe how it happened because doing so is very painful in fact even thinking of it is.
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wow, 2 firefox crashes in a row obliterating both my attempts at posting a response to this. Maybe its just not meant to be. So ill make it quick.
I feel the only thing you can really do for her, that has any weight or value whatsoever, is to just be there for her. Shes gonna go through some serious shit for this, shit way beyond your scope or ability to understand, so dont even try. Just be there while she goes through it.
My ex was repeatedly raped at 14 by a 27 year old, who held her mentally hostage for a period of 3 months by use of constant threats to her , her family, and friends. Was it her fault for being naive and approaching his sports car walking home from school? Possibly, although 14 is pretty young to have already established that fear of the world mentality. However, what she went through for the next several years was total hell and chaos. Drugs, promiscuity, alienation from her family, and the list goes on. Pretty much ruined her life. And having a relationship with her was basically impossible, of course i didnt find this all out till towards the end of it all. We broke up on bad terms and i dont really know what shes doing these days, but i imagine its more of the same when we were together. Be prepared for something like this to happen to your g/f in a lesser form (or hell, maybe worse). It was a little late for me to "be there" for her, and my attempts at sympathy were treated as pity and only further angered her. So whatever you do, it will be on a fine line.
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I'm 14 and i know not to get in a car with a stranger. I would've thought that common sense by then.
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Oh, and she never turned him in because when it was finally finished, and he basically just let her go, she just couldnt bother to deal with it anymore. It was over, thats all she wanted. She couldnt handle being brought back into that world again, so letting it slip away into her past felt like the best idea. And of course, after a couple of years when she could go back to that moment and think about it without falling apart, it was far too late in her opinion to make anything legal happen out of it.
Man it was so sad, she would show me home videos and pictures of her and stuff of her life before and after the events, and it was just like this horribly dark line of demarcation. Happy -> unhappy. She even had a photo album of friends she made in a couselling group for sexual victims, and like all of them were super hot. And she would point at them "oh thats stacy, her two brothers used to rape her with a toilet brush in the woods.. There susan, her uncle filmed her giving oral to himself during her birthdays... " etc etc.
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On July 13 2005 20:03 decafchicken wrote:
I'm 14 and i know not to get in a car with a stranger. I would've thought that common sense by then.
most rape doesnt occur in that way usually its by putting themselves in a party situation and getting a little to close to someone u dont know and they thinking they are getting signals or drugs etc.
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You are doing the right thing mate, take it calmly... that's it 
use the force, strech out for your feelings...
Well I'm no expert but I think she needs comforting
go talk to her, take her out or sumthing... heal the wound.
P.S
I agree that drone is by far the most sensitive admin in this forum.
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Drone u know 3 girls that have gotten raped?.. wow makes me wonder if i know any that just never said anything...
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On July 13 2005 20:05 NerO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 20:03 decafchicken wrote:
I'm 14 and i know not to get in a car with a stranger. I would've thought that common sense by then. most rape doesnt occur in that way usually its by putting themselves in a party situation and getting a little to close to someone u dont know and they thinking they are getting signals or drugs etc.
Actually, rape most commonly happens with someone they know fairly well. You're right that it doesn't occur in the way it happened with Newb's supposed ex, but it's not really the way you say, either. (According to statistics I've seen, and what was said in the "health" class in highschool.)
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I cant remember if you said whether or not you are going to try and pursue the attacker, or turn him in to the police, or whatever can be done. However you must realise that you HAVE TO do something right? Otherwise you are guilty for the next person he attacks. Because predators always attack, and they never stop. If you or her do nothing, you lose one more chance until the next victim does something, at which point she must now suffer whatever your girlfriend will suffer, and how can you willingly put someone else through that again? Even if your attempts to stop him are unsuccessful, you do not bear the burden of guilt because at least you tried.
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On July 13 2005 20:09 SCFraser wrote:
Drone u know 3 girls that have gotten raped?.. wow makes me wonder if i know any that just never said anything... I was just listening to a report on this the other day on the radio, and it basically said, out of 10,000 college students accross multiple universities, 50% of women admitted to having been a sexual victim in at least one sense, being no less than fondled or groped against their will. 20% admitted to being full on raped. And 80% of all victims admitted to having been heavily intoxicated, mostly with alcohol. So there is definately a correlation between a womans behavior and what she can do to avoid these instances. And personally, im not so sure i have pity for a girl who gets raped for getting drunk at a party.
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alot of girls have told me they have been raped.
alot of them are liers.
i wonder if these girls in these studies are being honest. Alot of them lie to their friends, alot of them lie to surveys, and alot of them lie to themselves.
If you decide you don't want sex after you have sex with someone, it is not rape. Alot of girls don't seem to get that.
(this post has nothing to do with the original topic starter just to make things clear)
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i dont know about you, but if someone i did care about got hurt by someone else, id find that person and slaughter them to death, regardless of what happened to me, id make sure that person never took another breath after i was done with him. dont know how close you are to her, but id at least find the guy and put his head through a wall, the fact your like so passive about it means one of two things, you dont care about her, or your a chicken and afraid to confront the guy. thats my opinion tho, take it as you wish.
if you dont do something, what guarantee you have he wont go after her again? you dont know who it is, what if its someone that knows where she works/lives?
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or he is smarter than u....
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This is a really, really complicated issue.
On one hand rape is a natural thing. The bodies and minds of men and women were physically designed through evolution to facilitate rape for the means of ensuring the ongoing survival of our species. This is supported by the fact that rape is a very common reproductive strategy among many other mammals, especially primates.
On the other hand, the human race has gone far beyond evolution and instinct. It has developed morality and ethics, civilization. These things oppose rape, and rightfully so in my opinion. It is a violent and unjust act given the fact that we are a booming race that doesn't need to worry about extinction.
Ironically, however, that very fact that morality and ethics and society all viciously oppose rape, gives rape even more power. Most of the mental and emotional torment women go through after being raped, simply wouldn't be there if they weren't part of a society that so looked down upon it. Without that stigma attached to the act, it's basically a fight with another human being, but with the added possibility of disease.
It's really complicated, like most things are I guess. But in specific cases I think it can be boiled down.
Your girlfriend has gone through a very traumatic experience and she needs to recover. If you care about her enough, the best thing you can do is be there, and do whatever she asks you to.
Also, and I don't think anybody else mentioned this... When you two have sex with eachother, let her have physical control. She'll probably scare very easily during sex at first.
Best wishes.
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damn dude, its hard for her to deal with this situation
much harder than it is for you
i think a wise move would be to delay her taking the tests, until maybe two or three months from now
this is because you should NOT under any circumstances even think about touching her in a sexual way until she has had some time to heal
as far as your emotions are concerned, you have every right to feel like crying, or killing someone-- somebody very dear to you has been violated in a very horrible way.
did she go to the hospital to have a DNA sample collected? If so, they probably tested her for diseases while she was there.
if not, it will be difficult to prove a case in court. try to avoid washing her clothes, if you are lucky enough to have them, as there might be some traces of the attacker (hair etc.)
issues of criminality aside, it is IMPERATIVE that you provide her with as much comfort as you can during this tough period, make sure that she knows that it was NOT HER FAULT
for some unknown reason, some rape victims have a tendency to blame themselves, make sure that she knows you still love her and care for her, and that this does not affect your relationship in any way
the most important thing for you to do as her partner is to communicate, give her love, and give her the time she needs to heal
just to re-emphasize, in case you didn't read it the first time, do NOT try to touch her sexually (even kissing could be traumatic) for a good long while.
this is going to be a very difficult time for you both, and your relationship. i wish you luck.
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On July 13 2005 20:22 WildCard wrote:
the fact your like so passive about it means one of two things, you dont care about her, or your a chicken and afraid to confront the guy.
How fucking wrong you are. Until something like this happens, and you can stand in someone else's shoes, shut the fuck up. Did you not read his post? Of course those were his initial reactions, he even said so, that would be natural. But how is that going to help anyone? Especially his girlfriend. You think she's feeling "Yeah, kick his ass Johnny, that'll teach him, yeah!" You clearly lack the maturity and sensativity to even possibly comprehend what he or his g/f are going through.
Excellent posts by Chris and lil.sis btw.
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On July 13 2005 20:20 Teroru wrote:
alot of girls have told me they have been raped.
alot of them are liers.
i wonder if these girls in these studies are being honest. Alot of them lie to their friends, alot of them lie to surveys, and alot of them lie to themselves.
If you decide you don't want sex after you have sex with someone, it is not rape. Alot of girls don't seem to get that.
(this post has nothing to do with the original topic starter just to make things clear)
I belief this to be true!
But that's probably just because I've been exposed to a lot of really awful, lying women.
The 14-year-old in NewbSaibot?'s story struck me as the kind of girl that would lie and exaggerate like crazy. Seems more likely to me that she's just making most of it up because she'd rather be the "Damsel in Distress" than the "Preteen Whore."
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On July 13 2005 20:31 1337 wrote:
or he is smarter than u....
Agreed. It's always smarter to do nothing and:
1. let him get away without punishment for one of the worst crimes possible.
2. as NewbSaibot said, let him attack another victim.
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On July 13 2005 20:40 Legend wrote:Agreed. It's always smarter to do nothing and: 1. let him get away without punishment for one of the worst crimes possible. 2. as NewbSaibot said, let him attack another victim.
So going to prison for murdering someone is a better alternative?
hello?
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Going after the rapist hunting him down/beating/killing w/e doesn't work in real life, this isn't a movie, you'll end up getting in trouble.
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On July 13 2005 20:54 Stat.Quo wrote:
Going after the rapist hunting him down/beating/killing w/e doesn't work in real life, this isn't a movie, you'll end up getting in trouble.
I like all the kids that get their ethics/morals and sense of retribution from movies though. Because, you know. It always works out in the end.
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*cups hands over ears*
lalalalalalalalalallaallalalalalalalalalalal
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I dont know dude your outlook on the whole thing seems pretty fucked up to me. Still I guess having your g/f raped must fuck you up in the head a littil too, and debating about your outlook on life not really the point. Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then curcuimstances. Also for the love of god go to the cops if you have not done so yet. Even if she asks you not too. You cant let whoever did that to her do it to some other girl. She will thank you in the long run.
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On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances
CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills?
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On July 13 2005 20:46 Teroru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 20:40 Legend wrote:On July 13 2005 20:31 1337 wrote:
or he is smarter than u.... Agreed. It's always smarter to do nothing and: 1. let him get away without punishment for one of the worst crimes possible. 2. as NewbSaibot said, let him attack another victim. So going to prison for murdering someone is a better alternative? hello?
Nope, I never said that that was the best idea, but doing nothing is at least as bad.
Taking into consideration both your own well being and what he deserves, you should make it your first and foremost goal to get him life in prison.
OP:
Instead, you have the "It's all cool, man" attitude.
In fact, from your attitude, it seems as if you raped someone and are posting it from another perspective... I don't know though.
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Thats what cops are for.... use your tax money...
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I dunno what I'd do.. honestly. But I think both women and men should be taught self defense rather then be victims. Here in the NL people simply die because they don't know how to fight, a year or 2 ago we had some dude smashed to death with a helmet and recently some other dude got beat'n to death in a cafe. This is only the stories you see on TV, and if both of these guys knew how to fight... I'm sure they'd still be walking this earth today; on the other hand, they would be jailed for punching their attackers:S Normally self defense is key to anyone's survival anywhere.
As for the church thing... There was a russian who said it best: "religions are opium for society". It's basicly the same as getting here on coke or weed or whatever, it won't solve her problems nor fully heal it.
I dunno if anyone else has it, but for some reason I've developed a sense that alerts me in case of possible danger. This sense never betrayed me a single time and thanks to that I've been able to save my own neck nummerous of times.
On the other hand, I know a girl that lives across the street and she told me even on the sight of a Marokkan(here in the NL they're troublemakers) or anyone else with lightly tinted skin color she wants to run them over with a car, beat the shit out of them and possibly kill them. The reason was simply because these people are responsible for what happens to a lot of women here in the NL, they get abused by them.
Most important things is that both you and she learns from what happened, what exactly went wrong and how to counter such things happening. Otherwise your own children will make the same mistake and get raped aswell...
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Really sorry about what happend.. though my girlfriend wouldn't appreciate starting a thread like this if she was in her situation..
Forget about the guy at the moment... you can kill him later on.. you should focus on comforting your girlfriend and ease her pain...
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I second chris's post about how complicated this issue is, but I want to make it clear how different this situation is from the perspective of someone who's been raped. It's not something you can really grasp thinking about it hypothetically, because it incites such complex and often contradictory emotions. Essentially being tortured in a way that you associate with "feeling good" or, if you're a person who believes in romance, that you associate with love and honest interaction etc., is impossibly hard to deal with.
Try to keep in mind that what she's feeling can range from guilt and self-loathing to intense fear or powerlessness, to anger and hatred.
And don't be worried if your feelings are complicated as well: what happens to me alot at least is that I recognize that a particular situation is supposed to be emotional in a particular way, and that often nullifies my own emotional response. For example, if someone i sort of know dies, its not unlikely for me to acknowledge the expectation of sadness before I have the chance to really feel sad. The problem, though, is that then you feel inauthentic, insensitive or uncaring for not having the predicted response, which just complicates things further. Keep in mind that there is no "wrong" way to feel; just make sure for the sake of your relationship that you stay completely honest and put her safety first.
Especially in a circumstance where the rape was caused by her putting herself in a dangerous situation, the guilt associated with rape can often drive rape victims to put themselves in dangerous situations again. It's my experience with a good friend of mine who was raped that she was much less equipped to fight off rape once she had been raped (at a young age), to the point where she couldn't even withstand strong sexual advances. People would start to touch her at a party, and she would freeze up and be unable to tell them to stop.
Keep honesty and saftery paramount, and have confidence in yourself, because rape happened to your girlfriend and therefore to you, its not something that was a result of anything you did. I know for sure that people don't "get what they deserve," because often the best, most incomprehensibly beautiful personalities have the most unfortunate circumstances I've seen.
Good luck, and don't think that it's hopeless.
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yeah it never hurts to learn a bit of self defense
not even physical but psychological self-defense
start spitting out your saliva, convulse, tell them that you have an STD, pretend like you're mentally deranged, start to possibly urinate and do anything else disturbing...
even if they know you personally and are "pretty" sure you don't have an STD or not mentally deranged, your actions will likely defer an attack... helpful but not foolproof, since attackers of this kind are highly unpredictable, illogical, and unreasonable to deal with.
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sad that this happened, and sad that you posted this here
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On July 13 2005 21:28 Raidern wrote:
sad that you posted this here
no it isn't
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
(2)MyBed.scx
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On July 13 2005 21:30 TreY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
(2)MyBed.scx
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
edit: best ever?
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On July 13 2005 21:04 1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills?
That's why you kill him, and dispose of the body.
You get a beat up car, and drive it across the state border, making sure no one can trace that back to you. Pull all his teeth, and keep them (this is necessary, because someone might find them there, then you're in trouble). Take a few gallons of gasoline with you, as well. Drive out to a fairly remote area, and light the car on fire. His body will burn, and so will the car, effectively destroying all evidence against you.
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On July 13 2005 18:58 Legend wrote:
i actually think he raped someone
I was thinking exactly the same thing
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How do u get home? u burned the car
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On July 13 2005 21:04 1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills? No way dude I grow up next too a kid who was a convicted felon and killed someone. He got only 20 years. If u smack a rapest around with a bat and have never bin convicted of a crime b4 your geting off light.
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On July 13 2005 21:30 TreY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
(2)MyBed.scx
is it ums? sounds like fun, can you upload it ?
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well if this lightman guy is a sociopath rapist this would be the way for him to bask in his act
HEY LOOK AT ME
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On July 13 2005 21:47 InToTheWannaB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 21:04 1337 wrote:On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills? No way dude I grow up next too a kid who was a convicted felon and killed someone. He got only 20 years. If u smack a rapest around with a bat and have never bin convicted of a crime b4 your geting off light.
he probobly had a VERY good lawyer which must have cost ALOT of money so if your will to shred your cash out of blind rage go ahead
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On July 13 2005 21:47 InToTheWannaB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 21:04 1337 wrote:On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills? No way dude I grow up next too a kid who was a convicted felon and killed someone. He got only 20 years. If u smack a rapest around with a bat and have never bin convicted of a crime b4 your geting off light.
what does smacking this guy across the head accomplish? you'll get your revenge but you'll also have a criminal record, have to pay thousands in medical bills, and screw up your life (good luck getting a job!). please, you fucking idiot, give me a break. "he got only 20 years." that's a third or so of his life. tell me, please, that it isn't a better idea to try to turn this guy over if you found him? your advice is bullshit, especially considering that you don't really have anything to back up the fact that attacking a rapest will get you a shorter term, just that a friend "only" got 20 years.
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if he raped her, chances are he doesn't get much anyways, so he probably doesn't have any diseases, right?
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On July 13 2005 22:10 camooT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 21:47 InToTheWannaB wrote:On July 13 2005 21:04 1337 wrote:On July 13 2005 20:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Anyway you dont have to kill the guy if u know who did it but a nice ass kicking with a bat is in order. you'll get probation if its your first crime I bet given then circumstances CAN U SAY ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON WITH POSSIBLE INTENT TO KILL???? ARE U OUT OF U R FUKING MIND??? thats not just probation, thats 5-10 years. and fuck the circumstances, vigilantes fry 2. BTW it would sound retarded saying oops i didnt mean to hit him in the head. can u say law suit??? medical bills? No way dude I grow up next too a kid who was a convicted felon and killed someone. He got only 20 years. If u smack a rapest around with a bat and have never bin convicted of a crime b4 your geting off light. what does smacking this guy across the head accomplish? you'll get your revenge but you'll also have a criminal record, have to pay thousands in medical bills, and screw up your life (good luck getting a job!). please, you fucking idiot, give me a break. "he got only 20 years." that's a third or so of his life. tell me, please, that it isn't a better idea to try to turn this guy over if you found him? your advice is bullshit, especially considering that you don't really have anything to back up the fact that attacking a rapest will get you a shorter term, just that a friend "only" got 20 years.
if you killed him, that eliminates the medical bills..
yeah but no seriously, trying to hurt the guy isnt the answer.. lol. as tempting as it may be.
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Ouch
This situation is very, very serious. I can't even understand people joking at the issue, maybe you've watched so many movies with drastic scenes in them that you've lost the sense of reality and don't understand how drastic an event that is, I think it's one of the most devastating things to happen to a human psyche.
Anyways, due to this, a public internet forum where the majority of people are probably < 20 years old is the last place you'd want to ask questions about this topic. Over half of the responses will be completely immature and will hurt you more than comfort you, many others will be irrelevant and even those that are written with good intentions can be harmful just because of the delicate nature of this situation. I seriously cannot even imagine what I would advise a friend who would undergo a similar trauma.
You two need to see a psychologist immediately. This matter is too serious to be left alone or decided using posts from an internet forum.
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I've never met a girl thats been raped. But in high school grade 12 I think it was this guy I new got raped by a girl. Apparently he passed out on drugs at some party and this chick that had been chasing him for awile started riding him. He woke up and was like get the fuck off me and eventually she got off. Everyone in school found out and was like "haha so-and-so got raped by a girl". He was embarresed and shit but never went to the cops. It musta sucked hearing people joke about it when to him it was very serious. Anyhow.
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its cause he went about it the wrong way
he shoulda been like "LMAO DUDE I WAS SLEEPING AND THIS GIRL JUST COULDNT RESIST ME."
would have saved him the embarassment.
and really. sorry to your friend and all, but if any guy woke up and was getting laid? would you complain? i smell a poll.
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What if it was a fat girl with diseases?
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yeah dude i'm sorry to hear that, i dont' know why the fuck people would try raping someone that is just fucking sick. hope your girlfriend would feel better, as is to you, and i hope she doesn't get any of those disease. best luck dude...
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Braavos36374 Posts
dude i dont know about you gene but there are plenty of girls i know for sure i wouldn't be happy if that situation occurred
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On July 13 2005 21:51 Casper... wrote:
well if this lightman guy is a sociopath rapist this would be the way for him to bask in his act
HEY LOOK AT ME
I don't know if you were mocking my post -_-, but I now think that there is 50% nothing happened, 30% he raped someone, and 20% his girlfriend actually got raped by someone else.
His demeanor is just too wierd. He sounds proud that it happened.
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On July 13 2005 23:06 Hot_Bid wrote:
dude i dont know about you gene but there are plenty of girls i know for sure i wouldn't be happy if that situation occurred
LMAO okay i take it back, me in my fantasy land definitely didnt think of that.
LOL I totally take back ew. now im just disgusted.
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i think you are handling it really really well, if i were you i would get so pissed, i dont' think i would be able to control myself. i'll probally hunt this rappist down and beat the shit out of him.
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just saw this one news couple days ago.. a guy peek at this girl going bathroom, the girl found out and got so mad she called her bf. the bf brought 3 friends w/ him and beat the guy so badly accidentally killed the guy.
now those 4 had to face sentence and prob will sit 5+ yrs in jail.
the dead guy's mom said they should just give him a lesson but not to kill him.. eh well, too late for that.
i guess in your case it's different, rape huh....... i think, in a extreme thought. you go kill the guy, or, go to church let God save you.
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yeah man. my ex girlfriend(we were going out at the time) told me one day her friend got raped.
im close with a lot of her friends, still to this day, so i was kind of thrown off, a little upset.
thought about what i would do if anyone raped her, i probably would have lost it, and if it was someone i knew, i probably would have beaten the hell out of them. i have very little self restraint.
looking back it would have been a bad idea, but that doesnt change the fact that ill feel the same way with any other person im close with. so really, i mean, all the advice any of us can give wont mean much, what you do is going to be a personal decision, so whoever said it is right, if its going to bother you that much, see a psychiatrist so maybe he can help you through your decisions you know?
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On July 13 2005 23:10 dsh wrote:
i think you are handling it really really well, if i were you i would get so pissed, i dont' think i would be able to control myself. i'll probally hunt this rappist down and beat the shit out of him.
The police must be a bunch of incompetent fucks if you find the rapist before them.
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well what if his girlfriend knew the rapist but didnt want to go to the police?
vigilante justice is what its all about.
as was the case with my ex girlfriends friend. the police were never the wiser of this event.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
hold her hand everyday, brush her hair with your fingers everyday.
look into her eyes, and just tell her that you love her and she is the most precious thing to you
be honest with yourself if you really blame or not
shit happens, but yeah, even this this, obviously things could have been different
but anyway(s) it happened
but if she doesn't get through this, it will fuck up a good part of her life
if you get her through this, this could be the most real and loving part of your lives.
When i was still a theologian, i get this brutal issues that come up.
guy tells me,
my gf got raped before i met her
she told me like it wasn't such a big deal
but even though it wasn't to her, it was to me, and yeah, maybe a part of me thought she was stupid, i wanted to find and kill this guy, but more than anything, a part of me felt like she was dirty or something and that it was like something against me. but its like, she is put this thing away, and it bugs the shit outta me, and i can't tell if she was affected or not, but; its affects me.
i said.
thats honest and as a man its a valid way to feel; but whether or not you mention it or not, express it to her, it doesn't matter cause the real issue here is that she has been raped and she may be still recovering; this isn't a easy thing to support her and not to judge her, but look at yourself first, if she was hit or beat up, what would your feeling be, would it be different. if not , then ok, that's fair, but sexual things are tied with our identities as well as we see ourselves a men, that being said, she isnt' in a position to understand or consider about you.
so if you love her, forgive yourself first for thinking this way, cause it is natural, and forgive her for whatever fault you think she may have done, dont' deny it, its just your judgement, so resolved it by forgiveness. and just make your love together be the light that just makes the past be the past; if you truly lvoe, then you can forgive, then keep loving everyday and you will forget as your love will be more important.
This may not be the same issue here, you're stress and it will be tough, tests for year, but if you make it through, without resentment, but with a clear heart, then this time will be pillar in the life of your relationship., but you can't expect to just force it, or you will be resentful and may do more harm than good; to yourself. its a process, but decided if you'll support her, then take it day by day and be honest with what is really bothering you and forgive youself and her.
I'll pray for you.
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On July 13 2005 21:24 bine wrote:
I second chris's post about how complicated this issue is, but I want to make it clear how different this situation is from the perspective of someone who's been raped. It's not something you can really grasp thinking about it hypothetically, because it incites such complex and often contradictory emotions. Essentially being tortured in a way that you associate with "feeling good" or, if you're a person who believes in romance, that you associate with love and honest interaction etc., is impossibly hard to deal with.
Try to keep in mind that what she's feeling can range from guilt and self-loathing to intense fear or powerlessness, to anger and hatred.
And don't be worried if your feelings are complicated as well: what happens to me alot at least is that I recognize that a particular situation is supposed to be emotional in a particular way, and that often nullifies my own emotional response. For example, if someone i sort of know dies, its not unlikely for me to acknowledge the expectation of sadness before I have the chance to really feel sad. The problem, though, is that then you feel inauthentic, insensitive or uncaring for not having the predicted response, which just complicates things further. Keep in mind that there is no "wrong" way to feel; just make sure for the sake of your relationship that you stay completely honest and put her safety first.
Especially in a circumstance where the rape was caused by her putting herself in a dangerous situation, the guilt associated with rape can often drive rape victims to put themselves in dangerous situations again. It's my experience with a good friend of mine who was raped that she was much less equipped to fight off rape once she had been raped (at a young age), to the point where she couldn't even withstand strong sexual advances. People would start to touch her at a party, and she would freeze up and be unable to tell them to stop.
Keep honesty and saftery paramount, and have confidence in yourself, because rape happened to your girlfriend and therefore to you, its not something that was a result of anything you did. I know for sure that people don't "get what they deserve," because often the best, most incomprehensibly beautiful personalities have the most unfortunate circumstances I've seen.
Good luck, and don't think that it's hopeless.
excellent post
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On July 13 2005 21:05 Legend wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 20:46 Teroru wrote:On July 13 2005 20:40 Legend wrote:On July 13 2005 20:31 1337 wrote:
or he is smarter than u.... Agreed. It's always smarter to do nothing and: 1. let him get away without punishment for one of the worst crimes possible. 2. as NewbSaibot said, let him attack another victim. So going to prison for murdering someone is a better alternative? hello? Nope, I never said that that was the best idea, but doing nothing is at least as bad. Taking into consideration both your own well being and what he deserves, you should make it your first and foremost goal to get him life in prison. Instead, you have the "It's all cool, man" attitude. In fact, from your attitude, it seems as if you raped someone and are posting it from another perspective... I don't know though.
from my attitude? wtf are u talking about?
And rape someone? I'm gonna assume that you don't know that i'm gay, as raping another man would be severely dificult, and if i did somehow succeed in raping a man, i doubt any of his friends would let me live to tell the tale.
I think we might be different wave lengths (on several different levels). If someone raped anyone i loved, whether it be a significant other, friend, family, neighbour, or whoever else, i would take every measure to make them go to prison. I would not, however, attempt to attack them physically. (the exception being if i was present during the rape, in which case i would do everything in my power to stop it from happening).
where the fuck do u come off calling me a racist? stupid fucking bitch.
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WOAH!
I started talking to the OP in the middle of that, my mistake. From the attitude comment on down is talking to him.
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On July 13 2005 23:24 Legend wrote:
WOAH!
I started talking to him in the middle of that, my mistake. From the attitude comment on down is talking to him.
specify who 'him' is. i am the person you quoted. i assumed i was 'him'.
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Nm, i'm the goofball I missed both posts completly. Brain temporarily stoped working, sorry .
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On July 13 2005 23:26 Teroru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 23:24 Legend wrote:
WOAH!
I started talking to him in the middle of that, my mistake. From the attitude comment on down is talking to him. specify who 'him' is. i am the person you quoted. i assumed i was 'him'.
I mean the OP... sorry, that was really confusing and was my fault. I edited both posts now.
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Just read the original post...
Dood, that 'everyone gets what they deserve' thing is so wrong! :/ There is no greater purpose, a deterministic goal or a god to determine this kind of shit. If you haven't called the police, do so!
I am quite convinced myself that the death penalty should be in place, just for people like rapists and pedophiles... Lemme here an Amen on that!
[edit] And yea, I'm not a violent purpose, but god help the rapist who gets into same room with me when I have a gun or a chainsaw. >=]
[edit] [edit] Furthermore, EVEN if these freaks aren't killed, they should definitely, I mean definitely, get their balls removed. Preferably hands from wrists down too (would make it harder to hurt anyone any other kind of way) and then locked in a cell for all eternity.
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Have you ever been raped, Teroru?
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like 7 out of 8 rapes arent reported. tell the cops =\
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man if I was you I'd probably kill the guy
Rape is not a laughing matter, even if you're raping clowns.
I hate the word rape I have so many personal grudge against it...
Anyways it's funny how half of the tl.net are making jokes =O I guess if you're not eri or drone or any other respected posters you won't get sympathy
But hey look at the brightside there was a HIV/AIDS cure threads few days ago!
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also - lots of rapists are using horse tranqs now. it makes the victim stiff so they cant fight back. after a girl has been horse tranqd, she becomes infurtile. i dont really want to end my post with it could have been worse, but at least this isnt an issue in this case =|
also - hes not a sociopath you silly gooses
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On July 13 2005 23:22 Teroru wrote:
I'm gonna assume that you don't know that i'm gay,
Hmm, really?
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1 out of every 12 guys get raped...heh.
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if your gf had been raped without using a condom she could have go straight to the police they would have sent her to the hospital to get the sperm or fluid evidence for the rapist's DNA. and that can help catch him much easier
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what i dont get is how could u guys joke with such things?
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On July 14 2005 00:26 FroST(TE) wrote:
1 out of every 12 guys get raped...heh.
;o.
Active : 191
That's how many people are on the site right now, lets assume one of them is a girl.
190 people all guys. At least 15 of them have been raped? ~_~
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Osaka27136 Posts
I'm pretty disgusted that people are making jokes in this thread. Have you people making jokes have no shame whatsoever? This is one of the most brutal of crimes, one that can often times lead to worse suffering. I strongly suggest you think about how you sound before you post. I am embarrassed for you.
Lightman, I am truely sorry for what happened to your girlfriend, and also for the pain it has caused you as well. Although I can't totally relate to what you are going through, I have a similar parrallel. My fiance is Japanese from Osaka, and as is common knowledge sexual abuse/harassment of women is prevelent in Japanese society. The problem is so bad that they now have "female only" trains during peak times. My fiance told me that when she commuted the same man would grope her every morning and she couldn't say anything about it. This went on for years.
I didn't even know her when this took place. Even so, after I heard this I had dreams of taking my vengence on anyone who would dare touch a woman that I canred so deeply about. Obviously I didn't, and I won't, but it is a very real and strong reaction. It would be unnatural not to feel that.
However, despite the pain this causes you, I think you need to put it away as this is the time your girlfriend needs you. Taking the practical steps such as disease prevention etc, are great, but the assurance that she won't be abandoned due to this incident is even more important. She needs to know that you are going to be a pillar of strength for her in the future. I think there will be times where the anger she feels may be directed towards you simply because she doesn't have any other outlet, and it is up to you to realize that she is expressing her frustration about the event rather than anything you are doing.
About the opinion that some people make themselves easier targets for crime than others, I think this is true. However, I DONT believe that it makes those people any more responsible for their victimization. I dont believe in the idea (which is often expressed) that some women dress to be raped, act to be raped, or get to drunk and deserved to be raped. The act of rape is an act of aggression, and isn't triggered by someones state of intoxication or dress and manner. A woman who gets drunk and raped is putting herself in a poor position, but deserves it no more than one who is dragged out of her car.
I don't know the particulars about your relationship, its seriousness, or even you as an individual. However, if you care about this woman a lot you have the opportunity to be an important and strong person in her life. I hope you are up to the task.
Best Wishes.
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In my prayers. I wish rape upon nobody.
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i'm sorry this happened, i feel bad...
itz good that you are understanding the problem and not on a killing rage
spend more time with your girlfriend and understand how she feels. helping her through this is most important right now.
good luck with this
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On July 13 2005 18:18 lightman wrote:
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I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all.
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I don't get you man, how the fuck can you say such thing. She deserves to be raped because she's beautiful and doesn't lock her door ? Only one who deserve something here is that fucker who did this. And we all know what is that.
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MURICA15980 Posts
There have been some really good posts, and some very very bad ones. I can't believe you guys can just joke about it like that. You probably really meant no harm with the jokes, but I still won't accept them as okay. They aren't in this situation.
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Thanks for all responses guys, even the inappropiate ones make me realize more and more that the way I am behaving is the right way.
I spoke to her awhile ago on the phone, and she felt better. Well I supposse that like the saying goes "things pass by", I will do my best so that each day she feels better and better and sees life again. I told her I want her to go to the doctor to get the rest of her tests (she initially didn't want to), go to a psycologist, and to consider taking a vacation, I told her that if things work out maybe I can take him to a cruise or something. She isn't pretty wealthy, she's 25 but her job doesn't pay very good and her family is middle-low class, so I guess a change of environment at least for a few days would make good.
It's very hard not to think in the cops issue, or revenge and stuff, right now I just want her to be healthy again. When she gets back to normal I may either forget the whole thing or I don't know. I do agree the guy can do that to another girls. Right now I just want her to be healthy again.
Once again thanks.
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Mani made very good post.It has never happened to me and I hope it wont in the future,however I think I could imagine how would I feel after sth like that...It is really hard situation,I do not know you nor I know her.The only one thing I hope is valuable to add from side is that, that if you go to the cops and they catch him it will prevent other girls from getting raped by him.He deserves to go to prison,but if it is impossible to find out who did it(she did not see him etc),the best thing you can do is to give up this guy and help your girlfriend.Propably she needs you now more than anytime before.
People please do not tell jokes in this thread.If you were in his situation you would not want to here unfunny jokes about it.
Best of luck,
Regards
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On July 14 2005 01:39 BlaCha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 18:18 lightman wrote:
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I don't feel like bad because, my perception of life is that people get what they deserve, and I'm not saying she deserved it, but she was definetly caught off-guard, and well I think when you are a beautiful woman like she is, you always have to be on-guard, simple things: lock the door, never go through dark alleys, etc, you know what I mean. Of course I don't feel good at all.
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I don't get you man, how the fuck can you say such thing. She deserves to be raped because she's beautiful and doesn't lock her door ? Only one who deserve something here is that fucker who did this. And we all know what is that.
I know what you mean. I know it's hard to read, I'm not saying she deserved it like you may interpret, I may have missused the word. What I meant was that she made herself an easy target.
Well it doesn't matter now.
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
You're a fucking idiot.
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Damn, I respect your calm reaction really. I surely would hunt and beat the shit out of that motherfucker.
Good luck to you and your GF, take her to a psychologist asap so she can get past the trauma
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You really should at least mortally injure or castrate the fucking scum that did that to your girlfriend, what a hard experience it must be for all of you.
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On July 14 2005 00:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
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There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend.
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My fiance told me that when she commuted the same man would grope her every morning and she couldn't say anything about it. This went on for years.
OMG! I thought that was just a joke in GTO. You mean this kind of shit really happens? Getting groped every day for years?!!
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On July 14 2005 09:43 Hippopotamus wrote:Show nested quote +My fiance told me that when she commuted the same man would grope her every morning and she couldn't say anything about it. This went on for years. OMG! I thought that was just a joke in GTO. You mean this kind of shit really happens? Getting groped every day for years?!!
Yeah it happens a lot in Japan. Some of the women have low self esteem and too embarass to report to the police and such
Some people these days just deserve to die =/
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no joke my g/f's grandma currently 78 years of age was just recently raped by a black man
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Braavos36374 Posts
all this talk of revenge and violence reminds me of that movie Irreversible with monica belluci... with the crazy graphic beatdown and the crazy graphic rape scene
also trance, that's crazy if it's true
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If Drone knows 3 people who have gotten raped in his country, I don't even want to think about how often it happens here in America.
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On July 14 2005 10:02 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:no joke my g/f's grandma currently 78 years of age was just recently raped by a black man
why do u have to mention "black"? i don't get it, isn't it just a man who raped her? :s
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On July 14 2005 08:52 TrainingMacro wrote:There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend.
i hope your mother gets hit by a bus.
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On July 14 2005 10:12 fanta[Rn] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 10:02 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:no joke my g/f's grandma currently 78 years of age was just recently raped by a black man why do u have to mention "black"? i don't get it, isn't it just a man who raped her? :s
i suppose it shouldn't be debated here, but there are two stereotypical leaps the adjective "black" implies here...
a) that black men are more often criminals
or
b) black men stereotypically have larger genetalia
the a) is quite racist and if that was his intention the word "black" probably shouldn't have been included in his post, but if b) was his intention, it's still slightly bigoted but "black man" won't get you banned but "no joke, grandma raped buy man with large penis" will, and his intent was to show just how severe the event was
that's my take on his reasoning for it
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On July 14 2005 10:12 fanta[Rn] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 10:02 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:no joke my g/f's grandma currently 78 years of age was just recently raped by a black man why do u have to mention "black"? i don't get it, isn't it just a man who raped her? :s
Look at miniority crime ratio to white... and we will talk again... its a fact miniorities in this country cause more crime sorry im not racist just a fact. thanks
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
Well whites do cause more crimes combined then all the minorities put together because they have a larger population.
However, the ratio of crimes of minorities is higher i believe.
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On July 13 2005 18:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
My only question is...
What map was it on?
as mean as it is that reply is gold
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On July 14 2005 10:30 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 10:12 fanta[Rn] wrote:On July 14 2005 10:02 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:no joke my g/f's grandma currently 78 years of age was just recently raped by a black man why do u have to mention "black"? i don't get it, isn't it just a man who raped her? :s Look at miniority crime ratio to white... and we will talk again... its a fact miniorities in this country cause more crime sorry im not racist just a fact. thanks
if that was indeed the intention of your post and if you really think that the issue is as simple as stastics, you're very, very ignorant
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I dunno man, you can't really expect any good advice on how to feel and how to react without giving the particulars of the situation. That is because something like this is completely situational.
To use an example of what I mean: When I was about 18 I was dating a girl and she was on vacation with her family in Costa Rica and got this phone call at like 3am from her telling me she got raped. Anyways, I guess some instructor of some sort at the resort they were at took her out for a "private lesson", got her good and drunk, and had sex with her.
See, the circumstances here are everything. They, in themselves, told me exactly how to react:
1) I was pissed off at her parents. Yes, let your 17 year old daughter go out with a strange man late at night with no supervision. Genius, Einstein. This is after your 14 year old daughter desides not to go cause he's "creepy." Congrats, you just lost points.
2) After hearing that she got drunk, I wasn't 100% sure she was even "raped." This girl used to turn into a real whore when she had too much to drink (fuck, I never complained). But I can imagine she could have consented to it, sobered up, then decided it wasn't a very good idea.
3) Gave my old girlfriend the "Congratuations, You're a Moron Award." You exercised the worst judgement possible. Not to be insensitive, but what did you expect? It's a dirty shame, but it coulda been prevented. The only good decision you ever made was dating me.
So yah, I guess you can see now that your reaction should depend entirely on the finer details. Just try not to be an ass and be supportive.
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You know what, I'm going to go ahead and double post because this:
the a) is quite racist and if that was his intention the word "black" probably shouldn't have been included in his post, but if b) was his intention, it's still slightly bigoted but "black man" won't get you banned but "no joke, grandma raped buy man with large penis" will, and his intent was to show just how severe the event was
is the kind of shit that really pisses me off.
Why can no comment on race ever be dropped without being considered "racist"? If I describe a person as "Chinese, wearing a blue shirt." people will say "oh, you identified him based on race, you dirty racist. No, I simply picked his most distinguishing feature and related it to him. If someone is 8 feet tall, I'll mention "the really tall guy," cause that is how you'll notice him. If someone is Chinese, it just so happens that his most distinguishing physical feature just might be that he "looks Chinese."
It is not racist to say a black man raped somebody. It is racist to say that he raped her because he's black. This is no different than saying that the majority of people in federal prisons are black. This isn't a racist statement, it's a fact. It's like saying that the majority of BW gamers are male. It's a statement of a fact based on a majority. Racism would be saying that these people are in prison because they are black.
Over-sensitive people who are quick to label an argument or a person as racist destroy debate. If a person says to you that over-immigration is hurting the economy, you'll call him a racist. This in fact allows you to sidestep his point and brush him off, no matter how valid his argument may be.
As a side note, those who are quick to label are usually the most racist of all. I'll call someone a dirty Mexican and have no problem with it because it means about as much to me as calling him a dirty Lakers fan. It's completely immaterial.
Yet these other chumps will consciously treat others differently because of race. They'll make a point to be extra nice around black people, or minorities. Why do they do this? Because, they so badly want to distance themselves from those they see as racist that they overcompensate. It's like holding up a sign that says "Hey, look at me... I'm NOT racist, I PROMISE." The ironic part is that they now become the people that are making distinctions based on race. They are now the people basing how they interact with a person on how they look.
They are now the racist.
=)
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lol well said SaNteria, i know people like that who overcompensate and are "over kind" to minorities.
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um, my post had a conditional, hence the a) and b), so i don't see how taking part of it out of context makes me a racist
secondly, the fact that there are more black people in prisons is a lot more complicated than them simply being predisposed to do more crimes. the notion that "black people commit more crimes and are more criminal thats just a fact" is prejudiced. there are a number of other factors like history and institutions installed by the white majority in our society that contribute to your "fact"
the truth is many white people fail to take into consideration just how much they contribute to this system that perpetually keeps minorities down. they'd rather believe that it's faults WITHIN the black individual and black race rather than factors many black people have no control over at all. the system will never change unless the ruling majority realizes and takes the initiative. i'm not saying there's no personal responsibility, i'm just sayin it's a lot more complex than your "more black people in jail!!" makes it out to be.
i'd say you're being way too judgmental about my character, you're basically labeling me a racist. if you read my posts around the forum on the topic, you'll see just how far off that is. i never said anything about how i treat black people or whether i have black friends.
plus, he basically confirmed the suspicions in his next post:
On July 14 2005 10:30 tranCe[RaGe] wrote:
Look at miniority crime ratio to white... and we will talk again... its a fact miniorities in this country cause more crime sorry im not racist just a fact. thanks
he's basically saying they cause more crime because they are black. there's no other way around it, he's point at them. so that makes your whole argument void.
so i'm sorry i "pissed you off" because you made some pretty ignorant assumptions about me and you have a pretty limited idea of how the world works
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i'll just list a few examples right now before you inevitably ask me for them
- crack cocaine carries higher penalties than pure powder cocaine. there is no reason for this, other than the fact that rich white people use the latter while poor minorities the former?
- the legacy system in universities, which allow offspring of alumni basically easy admission (a system that is hard to break into by minorities)
- housing, redistricting, and educational funding, etc
people invariably point to shit like "oh look at the prisons, there are so many black people!"
really, what have you read and studied on the subject of race relations to make such a great opinion like
"As a side note, those who are quick to label are usually the most racist of all. I'll call someone a dirty Mexican and have no problem with it because it means about as much to me as calling him a dirty Lakers fan. It's completely immaterial."
it's not completely immaterial because race is a historically loaded thing. it's not simply another adjective, it's a description that carries with it the weight of many years of oppression and suffering. only recently have there been slight progress really, think about it: 50 years ago we were still having lynchings and people getting away with murder. i think our society is a long way from being completely okay with "dirty Mexican" being the same as "dirty lakers fan".
you are quite uninformed and i don't fault you for that, but accusing others while having no well-thought out beliefs is just stupid. i can respect people like Excal and IronMentality who have a very concrete social beliefs but you, you're just ignorant but think you know it all, just like that smug little "=)" at the end of your post suggests
i think you should go read some books on the subject before you open your mouth, let alone accuse others of being racist, again.
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On July 14 2005 10:12 iamke55 wrote:
If Drone knows 3 people who have gotten raped in his country, I don't even want to think about how often it happens here in America.
not to mention that I've known at most 10 girls well enough for them to admit that to me. so 30%+ of my best female friends have been raped
not very cool
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On July 14 2005 11:22 SaNteria wrote:You know what, I'm going to go ahead and double post because this: Show nested quote +the a) is quite racist and if that was his intention the word "black" probably shouldn't have been included in his post, but if b) was his intention, it's still slightly bigoted but "black man" won't get you banned but "no joke, grandma raped buy man with large penis" will, and his intent was to show just how severe the event was is the kind of shit that really pisses me off. Why can no comment on race ever be dropped without being considered "racist"? If I describe a person as "Chinese, wearing a blue shirt." people will say "oh, you identified him based on race, you dirty racist. No, I simply picked his most distinguishing feature and related it to him. If someone is 8 feet tall, I'll mention "the really tall guy," cause that is how you'll notice him. If someone is Chinese, it just so happens that his most distinguishing physical feature just might be that he "looks Chinese." It is not racist to say a black man raped somebody. It is racist to say that he raped her because he's black. This is no different than saying that the majority of people in federal prisons are black. This isn't a racist statement, it's a fact. It's like saying that the majority of BW gamers are male. It's a statement of a fact based on a majority. Racism would be saying that these people are in prison because they are black. Over-sensitive people who are quick to label an argument or a person as racist destroy debate. If a person says to you that over-immigration is hurting the economy, you'll call him a racist. This in fact allows you to sidestep his point and brush him off, no matter how valid his argument may be. As a side note, those who are quick to label are usually the most racist of all. I'll call someone a dirty Mexican and have no problem with it because it means about as much to me as calling him a dirty Lakers fan. It's completely immaterial. Yet these other chumps will consciously treat others differently because of race. They'll make a point to be extra nice around black people, or minorities. Why do they do this? Because, they so badly want to distance themselves from those they see as racist that they overcompensate. It's like holding up a sign that says "Hey, look at me... I'm NOT racist, I PROMISE." The ironic part is that they now become the people that are making distinctions based on race. They are now the people basing how they interact with a person on how they look. They are now the racist. =)
Your an idiot, your post would make alot of sense.. if someone actually overreacted and sucked up to minorties, but that didn't happen. Instead he questioned why the man the other dude used in his joke was black, and the dude gave him such a fucking racist reply that his initial assumption of him being racist was probably dead on -_-, I can't believe that asshole said he used a black guy in his example because the ratio of black to white crime is higher??? that makes no fucking sense.. it's like a pitiful excuse to not look like a racist.. be serious with that dumb shit.. not all black men are rapists or murderers as not all white ones are.. so don't try to throw extra dirt on them faggot
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On July 14 2005 11:22 SaNteria wrote:
Over-sensitive people who are quick to label an argument or a person as racist destroy debate. If a person says to you that over-immigration is hurting the economy, you'll call him a racist. This in fact allows you to sidestep his point and brush him off, no matter how valid his argument may be.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart
it's not the immigrants as your "subtly racist" example implies, but rather the companies run by big rich white businessmen
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Blech, I was really hoping I wouldn't have to revisit this thread and make another response. But I guess we can't always get what we want =(
First off:
um, my post had a conditional, hence the a) and b), so i don't see how taking part of it out of context makes me a racist
and
your post would make alot of sense.. if someone actually overreacted and sucked up to minorties, but that didn't happen
My post was not a direct responce to Hot's words. His words simply triggered a generic rant since I wasn't too thrilled that a topic about rape instantly became about race because someone mentioned a "black man." This topic should still be about the fact that a girl was raped and the events surrounding that. I regret my part in causing it to meander.
i think our society is a long way from being completely okay with "dirty Mexican" being the same as "dirty lakers fan".
Yah, for the most part. If a Mexican was being an asshole, I'd call him an asshole. But the Asian or white friend of mine I'd say this to is Ok with it. So am I. In our world of racial comments carrying no weight, it IS immaterial. This doesn't mean I'd say it on Conan Obrien, cause obviously someone would take offence. My entire point in that analogy was that calling someone black means about as much to me as saying someone has a big nose. That's me, not society.
Your an idiot
And you're an idiotist. Future generations will be embarassed about how bluntly you judged me based on something superficial like my intelligence. WE BOTH BLEED THE SAME COLOR!!!
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart
it's not the immigrants as your "subtly racist" example implies, but rather the companies run by big rich white businessmen
Please don't quote Maddox to make a point. My example was just that, an example. I was talking about a hypothetical argument and some point it might hypothetically have. I didn't say it was my argument, and I sure as hell didn't say I supported it (I don't).
You know, reading something fully before responding to it is something we can all embrace, regardless of race or creed.
secondly, the fact that there are more black people in prisons is a lot more complicated than them simply being predisposed to do more crimes. the notion that "black people commit more crimes and are more criminal thats just a fact" is prejudiced.
Of course. The why is always much more complicated than the what. But the what is the only part I was stating as fact. FACT: Federal pens are highly populated by African Americans. I feel like I should be repeating this next part in all-caps or in a huge font or something because it is my entire point. Saying that fact is NOT racist. It becomes racist when one implies that they are locked up because they are black.
The question as to why there are so many blacks in prison is obviously more complicated. For the above fact to be true, it doesn't need to disregard the idea that more blacks are porn into poverty, which increases their chances of falling into a life of crime, that we as a society don't do enough of a job opening other opportunities to minorites... etc, etc. Hell, having a higher prison population doesn't even mean they committ more crimes. The fact they get locked up could once again be influenced by the way we behave as an entire society, again not placing blame on the imprisoned, themselves. All of this, while true, has nothing to do with disputing the above FACT.
i'd say you're being way too judgmental about my character, you're basically labeling me a racist. if you read my posts around the forum on the topic, you'll see just how far off that is
I'm sure I already answered this when I mentioned my "generic rant." I should have done a better job of differentiating it from the meaningless catalyst that caused me to write it.
Either way, you seem upset that I presumed to know so much about you despite not knowing you at all yet:
you're just ignorant but think you know it all, just like that smug little "=)" at the end of your post suggests
i think you should go read some books on the subject before you open your mouth, let alone accuse others of being racist, again.
You assume to know so much about me.
For all you know I *am* a minority. You have to admit that knowing I was black or something like that would have caused your above posts to be completely different.
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On July 14 2005 11:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
i'll just list a few examples right now before you inevitably ask me for them
- crack cocaine carries higher penalties than pure powder cocaine. there is no reason for this, other than the fact that rich white people use the latter while poor minorities the former?
- the legacy system in universities, which allow offspring of alumni basically easy admission (a system that is hard to break into by minorities)
- housing, redistricting, and educational funding, etc
people invariably point to shit like "oh look at the prisons, there are so many black people!"
really, what have you read and studied on the subject of race relations to make such a great opinion like
"As a side note, those who are quick to label are usually the most racist of all. I'll call someone a dirty Mexican and have no problem with it because it means about as much to me as calling him a dirty Lakers fan. It's completely immaterial."
it's not completely immaterial because race is a historically loaded thing. it's not simply another adjective, it's a description that carries with it the weight of many years of oppression and suffering. only recently have there been slight progress really, think about it: 50 years ago we were still having lynchings and people getting away with murder. i think our society is a long way from being completely okay with "dirty Mexican" being the same as "dirty lakers fan".
you are quite uninformed and i don't fault you for that, but accusing others while having no well-thought out beliefs is just stupid. i can respect people like Excal and IronMentality who have a very concrete social beliefs but you, you're just ignorant but think you know it all, just like that smug little "=)" at the end of your post suggests
i think you should go read some books on the subject before you open your mouth, let alone accuse others of being racist, again.
on the contrary, i far more lean towards his views than yours. Being that i am a minority, and the most hated minority in the world, i feel that my views should hardly come off as 'ignorant'. And nor should his.
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I should also point out that in my arguments I don't define racist as having to be a negative reaction based on race, but rather someone who allows their behavior in any way to be influenced for no reason at all based only on a person's race.
The fact is that if you are altering the way you act because of a person's race, alone, then race is something you are consciously thinking about. To be completely free of racially based actions, you'd have to be just as willing to call a black asshole a jerk, as to call a white asshole a jerk =p
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Black asshole just sounds so much meaner though.
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On July 14 2005 10:13 Teroru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 08:52 TrainingMacro wrote:On July 14 2005 00:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
... There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend. i hope your mother gets hit by a bus.
What does my mom have to do with this?
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On July 14 2005 12:56 SaNteria wrote:
I should also point out that in my arguments I don't define racist as having to be a negative reaction based on race, but rather someone who allows their behavior in any way to be influenced for no reason at all based only on a person's race.
The fact is that if you are altering the way you act because of a person's race, alone, then race is something you are consciously thinking about. To be completely free of racially based actions, you'd have to be just as willing to call a black asshole a jerk, as to call a white asshole a jerk =p
my response to you was a little heated because it seemed that by quoting my post you were directly making a personal attack, and thus i did so as well, in response. if you didn't intend it towards me, then i would've done a better job of addressing your points only; i'm sorry about my own assumptions about you, but again they were in anger.
anyway, your view of a "racist" is a little unrealistic. in theory, it'd be great if everyone could ignore race completely and act as if everyone was the same color. however, what usually ends up happening is a lot of supressed racism, ie people dancing around issues and being extra nice etc (what you also disagree with). all this leads to latent hatred that will come out eventually. in my opinion, racial awareness, acknowledgment and discussion is something that is a lot better than simply ignoring it, because ignoring does not equal making it go away.
as for your being a minority, so am i. it doesn't change my view that your initial post was misguided. the statement of "more black people in jail, thats a fact" is a loaded one. taken literally, it's true, of course. but you and i both know that it's almost never interpreted or meant that way, and those implications are what i'm taking issue with. simply being a minority does not mean you have a free pass to say whatever you want. if anything, you should be even more aware than others.
as for your example of white or black person being a jerk, i don't really see how that applies, i didn't say anything to suggest that i wouldn't call someone a jerk because of their race?
edit: also, sorry everyone for diverting this off topic, my fault... san, if you want to continue discussion PM me
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to everybody: Way to turn this into a debate on racism.
edit:: i realized half what i said was decently hypocritical of myself, so ill just leave it at-everybody shut the fuck up and stop ruining this poor guy's thread.
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Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church.
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I was under the impression that hiv can only be detected 3 months after you are infected, after your body has begun antybody production.
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On July 14 2005 13:55 icabot wrote:
Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church.
I don't think believing into something silly thought up god humbug and child molesting priests are going to help though.
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On July 14 2005 08:52 TrainingMacro wrote:There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend.
I agree that people affected by something such as this will react in different ways. However, the sense of the posts in this thread are not those of people "dealing" with a situation. These people don't have an emotional investment in the situation and I don't think that it is apporpriate to make those comments towards someone who is feeling real pain. Lightman seems to be pretty level headed, but someone else might react very differently to it. (As I would have had it been my story)
About the problem in Japan, it is an extension of a culture which has always valued the young and nubile. My fiance never spoke out against this guy because it happened when she was quite a bit younger. Should it happen to her now I think she would bite the guy's nose off and tie his fingers into knots. This may be a result of her having lived in a different country for almost 5 years, but she is surely not a woman to be triffled with.
/me unknots my fingers.
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On July 14 2005 13:55 icabot wrote:
Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church.
Jesus isn't the answer, he's your question
My answer is nothx. Your religion has had more holes poked in it than Jenna Jameson.
Most religion is complete and utter garbage, and I say that from a purely scientific (non-batshit-insane) point of view.
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On July 14 2005 16:34 Chris307 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 13:55 icabot wrote:
Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church. Jesus isn't the answer, he's your question My answer is nothx. Your religion has had more holes poked in it than Jenna Jameson. Most religion is complete and utter garbage, and I say that from a purely scientific (non-batshit-insane) point of view.
Joke?
Since when is it "purely scientific" to utter the conclusion "most religion is complete and utter garbage". I would realy like to know which kind of science have the methods to come the this conclusion in a so called "purely scientic" way. It sounds more like some kind of prejudice to me.
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Didn't even say how she got raped. Thread does not deliver. If I could, I would vote 1.
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leave religion outside of the thread please, we all ready brought racism into it.
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On July 14 2005 13:09 TrainingMacro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 10:13 Teroru wrote:On July 14 2005 08:52 TrainingMacro wrote:On July 14 2005 00:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
... There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend. i hope your mother gets hit by a bus. What does my mom have to do with this?
my point was that your jokes aren't funny. Nor was mine. If you can't deal with someones rape, go commit suicide or write a story or tell jokes to youself outloud, but don't make jokes to anyone involved with the rape. It is *not* a joking matter. It's not like its something trivial like the world trade center bombings, that was just fucking hilarious. GG americans.
If your mom WAS hit by a bus, would u really be ok if i said "SHE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN SO FAT THEN ROFL"?. When you go to a funeral, do people go up on stage and make jokes about the persons death? Do you think it would be tolerated if such a thing did happen?
Your or anyone elses inability to deal with a situation they have no involvement in should keep it to themselves. They need to pull their heads out of their asses, and realize that what they say could anger or hurt other people. If i was a mod on this site, i would have given a severe warning and maybe a ban to the people that have been so disrespectful towards the topic starter.
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On July 13 2005 19:30 SA-kcabsiozteh wrote:
"My only question is...
What map was it on?"
... -___-;;
That kind of stuff sucks man, I hope everything goes ok for you and your girlfriend. Try to get the police involved or something, seriously.
You can't quote, rofl!
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On July 13 2005 20:20 Teroru wrote:
alot of girls have told me they have been raped.
alot of them are liers.
i wonder if these girls in these studies are being honest. Alot of them lie to their friends, alot of them lie to surveys, and alot of them lie to themselves.
If you decide you don't want sex after you have sex with someone, it is not rape. Alot of girls don't seem to get that.
(this post has nothing to do with the original topic starter just to make things clear)
AGREED!, a lot of women like to be victims or something, how many bitches claim that they were kinda raped while they were drunk i mean, ive been VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRYYYYYYYYYY drunk lots of times, and im 100% sure i wouldnt let a fucker stick his penis in my butt  .
Alchol is not an excuse you sluts.
Anyway i whats the purpouse of this thread? vent out? i hope you are not looking for 1,238479 "that sucks, im sorry" posts.
I guess she wont like it roght anymore
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On July 14 2005 11:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 10:12 iamke55 wrote:
If Drone knows 3 people who have gotten raped in his country, I don't even want to think about how often it happens here in America. not to mention that I've known at most 10 girls well enough for them to admit that to me. so 30%+ of my best female friends have been raped not very cool
w000t, im moving to norway :D
BTW about people getting offended about jokes, nothing is so serious you cant make a joke about it, absolutely nothing.
Oh and i would totally laugh if someone makes the "she shouldnt been so fat" in my moms funeral
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On July 14 2005 16:45 toy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 16:34 Chris307 wrote:On July 14 2005 13:55 icabot wrote:
Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church. Jesus isn't the answer, he's your question My answer is nothx. Your religion has had more holes poked in it than Jenna Jameson. Most religion is complete and utter garbage, and I say that from a purely scientific (non-batshit-insane) point of view. Joke? Since when is it "purely scientific" to utter the conclusion "most religion is complete and utter garbage". I would realy like to know which kind of science have the methods to come the this conclusion in a so called "purely scientic" way. It sounds more like some kind of prejudice to me.
well... ALL sciences say religion is utter garbage lol.
only einstein didnt, but someone with that hair cant know much about religion.
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why u post it here?
and if you think she is guilty herself for being raped, don't tell this to anyone.
and as I understood, you(both) don't do anything, just sit and cry. did the girl call the police? I think not.
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you fuckers cant leave your petty little arguments alone long enough to even keep from disrespecting and insulting someone who's going through a very trying time in life. you all should be ashamed.
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Look at his responses. I can't imagine anyone acting like he is: he is 100% calm, and even sounds a bit proud about the event. I think he's lying about this whole thing, or possibly he raped someone/set someone up for rape.
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On July 14 2005 18:00 Legend wrote:
Look at his responses. I can't imagine anyone acting like he is: he is 100% calm, and even sounds a bit proud about the event. I think he's lying about this whole thing, or possibly he raped someone/set someone up for rape.
lol he paid the rapist, and watched
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On July 14 2005 17:57 Keanu_Reaver wrote:
you fuckers cant leave your petty little arguments alone long enough to even keep from disrespecting and insulting someone who's going through a very trying time in life. you all should be ashamed.
I agree.
The idiots flock to topics like these in the hundreds waiting to spill their filth and oppinions all over the place.
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On July 13 2005 23:06 Legend wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2005 21:51 Casper... wrote:
well if this lightman guy is a sociopath rapist this would be the way for him to bask in his act
HEY LOOK AT ME I don't know if you were mocking my post -_-, but I now think that there is 50% nothing happened, 30% he raped someone, and 20% his girlfriend actually got raped by someone else. His demeanor is just too wierd. He sounds proud that it happened.
i agree
your chop sounds reasonable as well, and i'd modify the 20 to include his friends
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theory:
lightman had a girlfriend
he was overly controlling and dominating and she decided to leave him and told him so
he stalked her for a few days then dressed up in black and raped her; she goes to him for comfort
he gets her to shower repeatedly annhilating the evidence making sure she doesn't go to the hospital for a rape kit or report it to the cops
he gets to comfort her during the rehabilitation
he posts on the internet about it because he's vain and stupid
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news flash:
a miniscule percentage of rapes were victimized by strangers
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On July 14 2005 18:27 Casper... wrote:
theory:
lightman had a girlfriend
he was overly controlling and dominating and she decided to leave him and told him so
he stalked her for a few days then dressed up in black and raped her; she goes to him for comfort
he gets her to shower repeatedly annhilating the evidence making sure she doesn't go to the hospital for a rape kit or report it to the cops
he gets to comfort her during the rehabilitation
he posts on the internet about it because he's vain and stupid
what
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On July 14 2005 18:27 Casper... wrote:
theory:
lightman had a girlfriend
he was overly controlling and dominating and she decided to leave him and told him so
he stalked her for a few days then dressed up in black and raped her; she goes to him for comfort
he gets her to shower repeatedly annhilating the evidence making sure she doesn't go to the hospital for a rape kit or report it to the cops
he gets to comfort her during the rehabilitation
he posts on the internet about it because he's vain and stupid
LOL CASPER DOES IT AGAIN
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yeah i have great imagination
you should hear some of the shit that comes out of my mouth
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fun fact #2:
victims of violent rape by strangers ALWAYS report it
it's only those who were raped by those they know who are afraid
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plus dude basically said she deserved it n shit
cmon
cmon
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"i guess my girlfriend got raped. these things happen, i guess, and it was mostly her fault. i'm not going to tell the cops about it or anything or kill whoever did it cuz, y'know, it's hard for me right now. besides, she's gonna get anti-aids drugs and therapy and a STD screening, cuz, y'know that's first priority. yeah. did i mention that i'm posting this on the internet? oh yeah, she's middle income and doesn't make much money, so i'm gonna pay for all that shit i said."
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Osaka27136 Posts
On July 14 2005 18:35 Casper... wrote:
yeah i have great imagination
you should hear some of the shit that comes out of my mouth
I think you should charge people to take you for a meal, so they can bask in your verbal excrement.
Then of course they can pay to take you home and bask in your actual excrement.
Its a win win situation.
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On July 14 2005 17:07 Teroru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 13:09 TrainingMacro wrote:On July 14 2005 10:13 Teroru wrote:On July 14 2005 08:52 TrainingMacro wrote:On July 14 2005 00:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
... There's multiple ways of dealing with a story such as rape. One is taking it serious and dieing of an heart attack and the other is joking about it a bit and laughing yourself to death. I find neither truely disrespectfull and note that noone really is making jokes about lightman himself or his girlfriend. i hope your mother gets hit by a bus. What does my mom have to do with this? my point was that your jokes aren't funny. Nor was mine. If you can't deal with someones rape, go commit suicide or write a story or tell jokes to youself outloud, but don't make jokes to anyone involved with the rape. It is *not* a joking matter. It's not like its something trivial like the world trade center bombings, that was just fucking hilarious. GG americans. If your mom WAS hit by a bus, would u really be ok if i said "SHE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN SO FAT THEN ROFL"?. When you go to a funeral, do people go up on stage and make jokes about the persons death? Do you think it would be tolerated if such a thing did happen? Your or anyone elses inability to deal with a situation they have no involvement in should keep it to themselves. They need to pull their heads out of their asses, and realize that what they say could anger or hurt other people. If i was a mod on this site, i would have given a severe warning and maybe a ban to the people that have been so disrespectful towards the topic starter.
My posts were meant to be funny? And I think that if the nature of the jokes are good then even victims or people close to victims can laugh about it. (For instance take reply #1)
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That's some fu**ed up story omg i would kill the guy who did it for sure...
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Osaka27136 Posts
This thread isnt going to get any better, and it surely cant get worse.
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On July 14 2005 17:43 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2005 16:45 toy wrote:On July 14 2005 16:34 Chris307 wrote:On July 14 2005 13:55 icabot wrote:
Jesus is the answer. You are doing the right thing by supporting her going to church. Jesus isn't the answer, he's your question My answer is nothx. Your religion has had more holes poked in it than Jenna Jameson. Most religion is complete and utter garbage, and I say that from a purely scientific (non-batshit-insane) point of view. Joke? Since when is it "purely scientific" to utter the conclusion "most religion is complete and utter garbage". I would realy like to know which kind of science have the methods to come the this conclusion in a so called "purely scientic" way. It sounds more like some kind of prejudice to me. well... ALL sciences say religion is utter garbage lol. only einstein didnt, but someone with that hair cant know much about religion.
???
Einstein was an atheist
Whenever he spoke of "God" (ie "God does not play dice") he wasn't really talking about some make-believe friend in the sky, he was just talking about the universe and its laws (the God of science).
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