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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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ReboundEU
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Providence did not award Naniwa a Code S spot, only the Blizzard Cup. He was going to be given Code S, that which was revoked. Not as bad. http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/146961938084134912 | ||
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:37 Focuspants wrote: The only thing that showed that Esports cant be taken seriously, is having what Naniwa did happen on live TV. Its embarrasing. If you did this as a professional anything, you would be blacklisted the hell out of the profession. Supporting Naniwas behaviour is completely counterproductive to what seems to be your goal, wnating Esports to be taken seriously. No not at all...when a basketball game is over the players stop trying and just dribble the ball and walk around for the last 20 seconds. Should they be banned for giving up when the outcome is clear? No, it is ridiculous. | ||
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Dumboprime
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DMTsyncope
Netherlands46 Posts
As far as i know he had 0 wins before going into that match against NesTea, i would give my absolute best to win it so i wouldnt finish the tournament with 0 wins. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 Pholon wrote: While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. I'll unlock it in 15 minutes. In that time, please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attack on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. edit: Incidentally, has everyone seen the new puzzlepieces on the calender yet? they're superdupersweet :3 edit2: okay here we go. keep it civil people. people do not see your shameless self promotion lol. | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 Pholon wrote: edit: Incidentally, has everyone seen the new puzzlepieces on the calender yet? they're superdupersweet :3 edit2: okay here we go. keep it civil people. They're freaking sweet! Liquipedia is such a wealth of awesome that anything to make it more accessible is great. (i've nothing more to add on the topic at hand, it's done to death, i've made my peace). | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:35 pdd wrote: Unless they ninja changed it, I'm pretty sure they said top non-Code S performer will be in Code S. When MLG-GSL exchange happens. There was no Korean invite in Providence. | ||
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GeNeSiDe
United Kingdom354 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 Pholon wrote: While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. I'll unlock it in 15 minutes. In that time, please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attack on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. edit: Incidentally, has everyone seen the new puzzlepieces on the calender yet? they're superdupersweet :3 edit2: okay here we go. keep it civil people. I think everyone needs to listen to this, especially Nani's defenders have been throwing around declarations of surrender (NesTea v MVP blizzcon? are you serious?), hurling insults. If this wasnt the right thing to do GOM wouldnt have done it. In my eyes they have proven AGAIN and AGAIN why they hold the life of SC2 eSports in their hands. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
“During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours “ The rule says that you can't "offend" anyone with abusive behaviour. How could Naniwa possibly have known that doing the strategy he did would fall under that rule? You can't punish someone(revoking Code S spot) for breaking undefined rules. A warning would have been appropriate. Then Mr. Chae says that Naniwa is an "amateur prize money hunter". The Korean culture just seems very elitist and easily offended to me. They need to realize that many people who watch or play in the Global Starcraft League don't give a fuck about their culture. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 Kryptic.610 wrote: No not at all...when a basketball game is over the players stop trying and just dribble the ball and walk around for the last 20 seconds. Should they be banned for giving up when the outcome is clear? No, it is ridiculous. Except this wasn't the last 20 seconds, it was more like the last inning of a baseball match where all players of one team stop moving. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 DMTsyncope wrote: Why do people keep saying that there was nothing on the line for Naniwa? As far as i know he had 0 wins before going into that match against NesTea, i would give my absolute best to win it so i wouldnt finish the tournament with 0 wins. Because winning while giving 50% against someone who doesnt care either while you both are stressed and sad makes you feel good? | ||
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raginglemon
Japan64 Posts
Gom is in the entertainment business, yes, they made a mistake with the tournament format. But this isn't the worst thing to happen in sports (group play happens in a lot of tournaments). Instead of being a professional, Naniwa acted like a spoiled little child. In doing so, Naniwa put Gom in a very difficult position, Gom was forced to do something, people pay Gom to be entertained, and you can hardly say the way the match played out was entertaining. If Gom does nothing, their largest audience (Korea) would not be happy. Ultimately, Naniwa had a choice, and he made a poor one. We all have to live and learn with the choices that we make as well as the consequences that come along with said choice. A better solution for Naniwa would have been to play out the match, and then talk to Gom and his team about the format. Instead he chose the immature route and pout. Hopefully Naniwa will take this as a learning experience and realize that in order to be considered a professional he needs to act in a professional manner. In addition, Gom was only considering giving Naniwa a code S spot, he wasn't guaranteed a spot. Providence only guaranteed an appearance at the Blizzard cup. Gom has essentially decided not to give him a spot, which is their prerogative. edit: spelling mistake | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
Why does NaNiwa get banned for something that there wasn't even a definite rule on banning people for probe rushes it's not about him winning or losing with it and to boot the game didn't have any relevance whether he won or lost. He was obviously on tilt/angry after playing 3 games that he almost won. So NaNiwa had no reason to play his best in the last game except for showmanship; He even said he was sorry for it in his interview. Etc Completely unprofessional actions from GomTV On December 14 2011 21:54 zanga wrote: *Ban MC from all the (seemingly FUNNY, previously that is) things he's done. Including Thumbs down, Dancing outside the booth, Waving his finger at the camera.. and many more. *Ban Bomber for having such a BM game against MC in some MLG (dont remember which). Putting down tons of command centers in the middle of the map, doing an "orange" with 10+ CC Scans and dropping mules so many times over. *Ban NesTea since in the Blizzcon finals he so obviously threw his game away and was just trolling around. *Ban Coca for match-fixing. He didnt get disqualified as far as I know - he simply left the spot because of decisions in their team. I can assume GOM would've cared, but so far had theyve said anything? ..more examples? "Mr.Chae has announced that they made Code S seeds for a professional minded pro-gamer not for an amateur prize money hunter. It is official that Naniwa is given a punishment" GSL is going to lose a lot of viewers because of this wrongful action they have taken against NaNiwa we have already seen it by how many people said they will not buy subscriptions in this thread... | ||
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 ReboundEU wrote: By Slasher@tweeter http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/146961938084134912 Which is actually in contradiction to what MLG has on their own website. Slasher either doesn't know what the fuck is going on, or MLG has been lying to us the whole time. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 Pholon wrote: While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. I'll unlock it in 15 minutes. In that time, please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attack on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. edit: Incidentally, has everyone seen the new puzzlepieces on the calender yet? they're superdupersweet :3 edit2: okay here we go. keep it civil people. They're really cool man <3 I love them | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 Kryptic.610 wrote: No not at all...when a basketball game is over the players stop trying and just dribble the ball and walk around for the last 20 seconds. Should they be banned for giving up when the outcome is clear? No, it is ridiculous. Take that example a bit longer. Say it's a soccer game, the score is 4-0 and there's 5 minutes left. Do the losing team just sit down? Do they just leave the arena? No, they keep trying for that last goal. Their play deteriorates, of course, but they try. | ||
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:55 raginglemon wrote: I think that the punishment is fair. He's only banned from GSL January (not forever, it's ONE month), New GSL seasons last 2-3 months. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 ReboundEU wrote: By Slasher@tweeter http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/146961938084134912 I do not understand this The agreement clearly states that he should be awarded Code S spot, it says so even on GOM page http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291 Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status. Code A status will be awarded to the next 3 highest placing non-Korean players. If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player. All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by the GSL. | ||
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