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LorDo
Sweden485 Posts
To those that might ask me "So if a Korean did the same thing, they should have enforced the punishment but not for Naniwa?" No, the fault was not as big as the punishment, for anyone. But IMO they should take into consideration he's a foreigner who just arrived in Korea. Also, to those claiming the Code S spot was never his. Yes, it was. The highest placed player not already in Code S recieved a spot, Leenock was already in so Naniwa gets it. | ||
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Yodums
Canada25 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:40 wanghis wrote: This pretty much. When Nani was still on dignitas, right after MLG Dallas they posted that behind the scenes where he basically said he'd take the trophy over $1,000,000 so to call him an "amateur prize money hunter" is ignorant bullshit Naniwa also said whether or not there's something on the line for a match, he will play every match up to its fullest. Sorry, but there have been way too many occasions where Naniwa has said something, and it never holds on its own without him providing more clarification (e.g. calling NesTea an idiot, but clarifying he was referring to his drone pull, saying MLG is a joke tournament, and having to elaborate, etc.). As much as I don't agree with what Naniwa did, I do think the punishment is a bit harsh to revoke him of his Code S spot. ' | ||
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Larryx
Poland148 Posts
his hand was scratching his beard, that offended gom | ||
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Blueyboyboy
Australia21 Posts
This is GOMs tournament they can do as they please, Naniwa's actions were just not acceptable, of-course he had something to gain. Nestea himself wanted revenge and wanted to show his fans that he can still show good games. Naniwa could have atleast given him this opportunity. Naniwa has robbed the fans of a much anticipated match as well as Nesteas chance for revenge in the spotlight. This just proves the huge ignorance of western culture, failing to consider the perspective of GOM as well as koreans in general. | ||
Kaos_StarCraft
Australia92 Posts
Don't like it? Go and make your own tournament. Also, integrity and honour (or the perception thereof) is highly regarded in most asian cultures. Living in a whole other country and not paying mind to local customs doesn't bode well for your future. | ||
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hamu
Australia2 Posts
It won't be hard for Naniwa to get back into Code S I don't think. He just needs to be patient (which I assume he is learning a lot about right now) Patience would be good for some people in this thread too. To those people talking rubbish about Naniwa and writing him off .. wouldn't it be good to see him changed after this? For players, GOM .. everyone, including you? Like or dislike him he gave us the best games at MLG against Korea's best player. If there is a chance of seeing that almost every week and a chance that this ban might 'manner naniwa' up or even just to understand the rules..and how GOM can choose to enforce them.. whatever.. I don't mind waiting a season for that to possibly happen. Until then we may see him roflstomp NesTea and others in foreign tournaments again, haha. Speaking of tournaments from memory didn't MC get back into code S just by coming second at a foreign tournament? After the ban is over I don't see a result like that for Naniwa being out of the question. Is this possibly the quickest way for him to be back in code S? I am a bit hazy on timeframe here and have read a good 20 or so pages of this thread. (I apologize for such a lengthy first post and not joining TL sooner..) | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10974 Posts
In Korea SC2 is really serious business and is handled like a real Sport event including harsh punishments. | ||
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Kompicek
Czech Republic245 Posts
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Lost--Soul
Netherlands23 Posts
He got 1 base all-in'd/cheesed all 3 games which put him out of the tournament, while they were playing on macro maps, so that put him in a bit of a bad mood I guess.. While I would've LOVED to see the grudge game between him and Nestea, I can understand that he threw it after what has previously happened and that the match didn't have any value anymore other than entertain the audience (which the KOREANS prevented in the matches against him previously (at least I don't get entertained by 1 base allins/cheeses in something as prestigious as the Blizzard Cup)).. So imo a bit of a harsh decision by Mr. Chae and his team.. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
these sorts of things need to happen to players understand the limits to their behaviour imagine if a basketball player refused to play for his team because the game was "meaningless", what would happen to that player? | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
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RicochetSEA
Australia31 Posts
When it's their tournament and in their country, its up to the players to respect the culture and the small nuisances of it. Although I believe a bit harsh, I can understand why they would do such a thing. | ||
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Petninja
United States159 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:57 Sawofhackness wrote: Look if someone enters the 100m race and then just idles along at a walking pace. Expect that person to be thrown out by the athletics committee for wasting everyone's time. Especially for abusing the position of being able to race in the first place, a situation many others would want and certainly not waste by "being in a mood". Not the same. He already had lost; he was 0-3. That would be like if you lost a 100m race and then the event guys told you to run it again, but if you win this time it still won't count. Apply that analogy and ask yourself if he was so wrong for not wanting to do something as stupid as that. | ||
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Mungosh
365 Posts
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Petninja
United States159 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:07 darkscream wrote: herp derp, naniwa acts like a huge douche on international TV and doesnt expect punishment these sorts of things need to happen to players understand the limits to their behaviour imagine if a basketball player refused to play for his team because the game was "meaningless", what would happen to that player? Nothing if the team supported the action, like Quantic did... | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
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gwixter
Slovakia336 Posts
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