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On November 24 2011 04:44 Iron_ wrote: Dont forget the 2nd lumbermill after 4 guys on forest. Thats when Huns became untouchable on Arabia. Kaoen (sp?) from Tiawan I believe was the first guy doing that.
Kaohen I think it was, he was good and knocked me out of one of my WCG finals runs. Him, Aluba, IamCat, IamKMKM were all good TW players.
2nd lumber mill was so greedy .
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On November 24 2011 04:43 Apolo wrote:Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz 
F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"!
The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin!
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On November 24 2011 04:50 Knuppe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 04:43 Apolo wrote:Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz  F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"! The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin!
Don't forget micromanaging your woodchoppers, all the times those bastards went to the other side of the forest.
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I'd say Koven luring a boar during a Deathmatch is the Age version of the aggressive Mule drop
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On November 24 2011 04:50 Knuppe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 04:43 Apolo wrote:Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz  F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"! The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin!
While identical maps in SC2 is so much better for balance, you really lose something not having to scout just to see the basic terrain. There was so much uncertainty while you sent your scout around! Plus you would be freaking out when you couldn't find your 2nd boar, or were worried your opponent stole your sheep.
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Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz
Ha ha, that was a lot of fun. AOE 2 had some really subtle you-just-had-to-know-it skils. Scouting in AOE was was better in general in my opinion. It was just as important, if not more, but it was waaay more rewarding.
Just out of curiosity if any SC2 players have played AOE online competitively? I know it's not the great game that AoE 2 was, but the game engine is roughly the same even if the rest of the game is pretty wonky. I know someone from one of the SC2 teams left to play AOE online, but I can't remember who (they obviously weren't very successful at SC2).
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i played aoe rise of rome for 6 years 1year comp after strating with sc2 i was plat
yes playing rts helps you at other rts
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On November 23 2011 09:41 Emperor_Earth wrote: The Sheriff was probably AoK/C's BoxeR.
long live the sheriff and the goths <3 
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1900ish rating back in 2002 MSN Zone player here. Used to play as Dream_of_Sorrow, or ZoD_Publius.
So many good memories... God i miss MFO and the ladder room. I knew i would see some familiar nicknames in here 
edit: No quotes on how KmKm took a whole WCG by surprise with his aggresive huns flush aimed at the enemy's stone piles?
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well what I can say is that all the guys from clan MMC (H20, Starsky and others ) pretty much stopped playing on a higher level because of studies and other reasons. Some are playing AoEO now
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Played age 1 and age of mythology with my class mates and was beating them 1 vs 4 but we had no rts experience and i remember beating them with silly shit like tower rushes with the nords in aom and rush to gold phahalanx ( or something like that, guy with silver armor that got an up and got a golden aura around the portrait and became really op ) + killing them 1 by1. Last game i played was war 3 tho and i am not even good at sc2 being only hm  But i never really knew there even was a aoe pro community, was it aoe1/2 or aoe 3 ? cuz 3 seem a lot different. Also artosis or incontrol said something...sometime about playing aoe but i don't remember which of them.
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Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2?
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On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2?
Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else.
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On November 24 2011 04:33 Iron_ wrote: Daut must have been after my time. But as far as I am concerned Grunt was the best player. Koven had the largest legend, but Grunt won the big games. I think RD_Champ probably could have been the best also, but he never seemed to play nearly as much. I played all of these guys a bunch, it is really what made me as an RTS player. At first it was like stepping into another world they were so much better than my normal competition.
Daut started to rise in the 6 months before AoM launched. He appeared on the aokh ladder. He must of beat me like 20 times and I never beat him. I remember being pretty pissed off because I had a bit of an ego and this unknown guy came along and just kept beating me 
I was not good enough in AoC to really say who the best player was. But on the rare occasions that I got to play with these guys Grunt seemed to be a lot better than RD.
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On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2?
AoC was perfectly balanced in both 1v1 and 3v3 , in almost every map
you didnt have matchups there,most games where mirrors,both players had the same civilization (huns war,aztek wars,etc..)
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On November 24 2011 05:40 FaiL_SaFe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2? Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else.
In AoC the game was balanced by all the races being so similar. If you could play one race then you could play them all, so everyone just played Huns :p (or vikings on islands).
AoM was never well balanced. One way or another the egyptians were always too strong. First it was Ra, then Set, and finally Isis. Isis was never nerfed enough. You could win with other races, but you had to really scout and play the map.
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On November 24 2011 05:40 FaiL_SaFe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2? Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else.
I only played AoE3;TAD (The asian dynasty (expansion)) but the game was never balanced, but thats mostly because there are 13 civs. There was a fan patch made that made the game pretty balanced, but its impossible because of having 13 civs.
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On November 23 2011 09:42 Garnet wrote: The AoE1 Chinese and Vietnamese pro's have quite some APM. Too bad they probably won't ever switch.
I have to ask, Do any of you have any (FP)VoDs of these matches? always wanted to see/watch one. Much appreciated if someone can link me some.
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i played aoe3, highest i have gotten to is diamons, and another player that i know played aoe3 and did/does play sc2 is Mardow that i know of.
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Wow, I didn't even know that AoE had such a scene back in the day (I was more focused on CS, RTCW, and BF1942). I always figured that it was just a popular choice among gamers when they got together in LANs.
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