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Thoughts on Naniwa's comments on Nestea.

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Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:36:33
November 19 2011 16:21 GMT
#1
If you browse the web a little bit, you will find posts containing quotes of Naniwa commenting on his win. I have one of his quotes here, "....I thought that he would do some smart shit like building a hatchery far away and just transferring it, I thought he was that genius but apparently he is just an idiot, what he did made no sense... " (Video souce posted, skip to 10:10) This is Naniwa's comment on pulling drones by Nestea.

Although I was, and still am, very happy for his wins, I do not appreciate this type of attitude. Do not forget that Nestea has won 3 GSLs, Being in a slump does not make anyone an idiot. Honestly, I would more appreciate a modest attitude, how can Naniwa be so proud to a level that he insults on of the the starcraft pillars?

We are the starcraft community, and we have influence. Maybe we should respond to this kind of attitude by simply disliking it. Let's not hate anyone, and simply show that we appreciate pro players who work hard, even if they are in a temporary slump.

Source:

Skip to 10:10
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 19 2011 16:22 GMT
#2
At least show the quotes and don't just state something.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:22:43
November 19 2011 16:22 GMT
#3
Should probably link the source b4 u spew this to TL community....just saying...

exactly as the person said above me :D
Marksofshame
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada41 Posts
November 19 2011 16:22 GMT
#4
Can you link a source please? If this is real, this is very pathetic.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
November 19 2011 16:22 GMT
#5
if thats true, he deserves no respect at all
asdfg
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
November 19 2011 16:23 GMT
#6
Haven't read any of this, and I don't see Naniwa making comments like that
Ahtiven
Profile Joined May 2009
Malaysia159 Posts
November 19 2011 16:23 GMT
#7
what? that's cocky.
Life is a gift, don't waste it.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:26:45
November 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#8
On November 20 2011 01:21 Theeakoz wrote:
"I thought he (NesTea) was just a genius but apparently he's just an idiot."


I simply dont believe that he said that - Source please

Also - What he did say in an interview was (Slasher Interview): "I didn't expect to win, but they (MVP and NesTea) seemed easier than I anticipated."

Edit: I've seen the source interview - I think that you are over analyzing this, note that english isnt Naniwas first language, he might not mean that NesTea is an idiot, but that the descision he made was idiotic
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
November 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#9
It's about the context dude.
And he's totally right lol
wat
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
November 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#10
I'd like to see nestea crush him.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
November 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#11
well unless your nestea in disguise it doesnt really matter. plus nestea did play dumb during the games. nowhere near the top nestea could play. nestea was just playing flat out bad
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
November 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#12
naniwa always had a behaviour like that =(
remember he dropped out of many teams and out of ESL while he lived in Germany because of this bevaviour.
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#13
Wtf, it's totally out of context. He called Nestea's decision to pull the drones back as idiotic. Please stop creating dramashit like this.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:25:24
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#14
Is this an actual quote? Seems highly unlikely that he'd call a 3 time GSL champion an idiot. Everyone does dumb things sometimes. After all this is Naniwa, the guy who 1 gate expanded vs a speedling opening in GSL a few days ago.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#15
rofl, after watching that naniwa is the idiot. deserves nothing, hope he doesnt recive anymore invites to GSL at all
asdfg
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#16
On November 20 2011 01:23 Nolot wrote:
Haven't read any of this, and I don't see Naniwa making comments like that

Haha you must not have been around during WarCraft III then
BestFriends
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#17
Player vs Player bashing is fine especially at the pro level as they aren't taking potshots from the dark but putting there ego on the line. It's what makes entertaining stories and games, especially when there's grudge involved.

To be honest I don't understand why 1/2 of this community is so uptight at any offensive comment.
It's not about winning but the prevention of defeat.
Trigger1101
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden80 Posts
November 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#18
it was idiotic to pull drones lol.
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
November 19 2011 16:26 GMT
#19
if you're talking about pillars of starcraft in general I don't think zergbong is the best example of that. flash, maybe..
truewt
Profile Joined June 2008
Singapore121 Posts
November 19 2011 16:26 GMT
#20
He needs to get some PR done, obviously he's interviewed high from the win and you can tell that from the attitude..
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