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taintmachine
Profile Joined May 2010
United States431 Posts
November 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#121
On November 20 2011 01:38 Pulzlulz wrote:
Congratulations, you destroyed someone's reputation.


lol what? threads like this are so great because of comments like this.

where is the esports is dead because of naniwa (or the op) post?
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
November 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#122
yeah i love him, he's a great player IMO much better than Naniwa, but in those games, he indeed made some stupid things so...
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#123
On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.


Yeah pretty much lol.


clazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan122 Posts
November 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#124
My god who cares? Idra call people idiots all the time and when he does it everyone cheer on him and think it's funny. This shit is just ridiculous.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
November 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#125
On November 20 2011 01:35 Theeakoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 01:32 ICA wrote:
On November 20 2011 01:28 FrodoAndTheSlobStix wrote:
To people saying it's out of context....Not really.
He said he thought nestea was genius but I guess he's just an idiot.


It is out of context. I am by no means a huge Naniwa fan since he did do some pretty stupid things in the past but I have to defend him here. His wording is just poor. He certainly is talking about this particular situation in the game where Nestea made a mistake (or something stupid, did not see the game actually), which was idiotic. Idiots do idiotic things. Therefore Nestea is an idiot. There is no way that he means it as Nestea is an idiot in general.


That is exactly what I am talking about, the way you word things. What does respect really mean? respect is shown by the way you put words next to each other in a sentence.


Yes, so we should vilify him for saying one thing that can be taken as disrespectful. In a live interview. In his non-native language.

Or, maybe we should just accept that there was a better way to word it and give him the benefit of the doubt.

Ultimately, it's up to us to decide what he intended by that remark. For me, the fact that it's a relative outlier suggests that no harm was intended. Had it been Idra, then it would be simply another in a long chain of disrespectful behavior.

Why conclude malice when error is the more likely answer?
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#126
On November 20 2011 01:39 tztztz wrote:
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On November 20 2011 01:38 Pulzlulz wrote:
Congratulations, you destroyed someone's reputation.


what? it was an interview. naniwa should've chosen his words more carefully.


he gave an honest opinion. nestea did something stupid and naniwa won the game. from that you can infer that nani isnt cocky but infact believes nestea is very good (mechanically etc) but this weekend has been playing stupid/bad whatever you want to call it.

being seconds away from losing to idra, while being outplayed every game of their series, then losing to naniwa who couldnt win a game in code a. either nestea forgot how to zerg or hes been playing bad so far this weekend, theres no arguing with it.

id be a lot more bored with ESPORTS interviews if people started never speaking their minds. politicians giving interviews is one of the most boring things in tv, hearing nani say "ye, that was a dumb thing to do" makes it worth listening to
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
November 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#127
On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.


drama queens? you don't see athlets in other sports or generelly people in public call each other idiots. it's a sign of maturity
i6ly
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany9 Posts
November 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#128
On November 20 2011 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
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On November 20 2011 01:35 Trigger1101 wrote:
On November 20 2011 01:33 K_Dilkington wrote:
Either way, Idra get's away with saying worse shit than this every day so I don't see how this warrants a thread.


Idra telling mana to fuck off in a tournament and calling other players retarded like every weak - LOLOL SO FUNNY.
Naniwa calling nesteas decision to pull drones idiotic - Grow up.


To be frank, Idra is funnier when he does this stuff. Completely regardless of how I feel about this cute little "incident," Idra's just funnier when flaming others.


funnier?
i don´t know, really ... seems to me that its kinda sad, but definitely not "funny".
Fin de siècle
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
November 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#129
Oh crap, Naniwa called Nestea an idiot! Call the internet police! Why is this even a thread? I mean honestly? Nestea made so many terrible decisions that game but I have no room to talk since both of them are far better players than I.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France655 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#130
On November 20 2011 01:35 Numy wrote:
Artosis's hype is really starting to have some really negative effects on the community. Well it's been having bad effects for awhile but man this is just sad.

Yeah I hope someone sends a question to the next SotG about this whole Nestea overblown hype thing. Artosis is so busy worshipping Nestea that he's actually not giving any credit/spotlight to people who deserve it more, and that detracts from his performance as a caster.
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:44:48
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#131
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#132
Naniwa also said he wasn't afraid of NesTea, that NesTea was overrated and that there were lots of better ZvP players than NesTea. He dissed him pretty hard, but that's okay, isn't Naniwa allowed to have an opinion like that? And I'm sure Naniwa is proficient enough in English that he can construct a simple sentence, he is Swedish, travels internationally and is pretty smart. Why shouldn't he have good English?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#133
Naniwa never changed he is just not being as open with his opinions anymore (for good reason). That being said people think things like this all the time most of them just don't say it.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
RainCoat
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden142 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#134
Can't beleve people care THIS much. It's a persons own right to say and state whatever he wants from his point of view. To say "He wont last long" or "He doesnt deserve anything" is just utter lame. You can maybe disrespect him as a person but as a player he's still a great gamer. It's like looking down on player X cause it accidentally came out that he was a socialist/right wing conservatism etc. He DOES deserve what he won/is winning/is going to win, cause he is a good player. And it's no meaning to make such a big deal out of this. This just saddens me to see the community beeing so hatefull just cause he doesn't say whatever other people want him to say, especially when it's such a small thing.

(This is of course my oppinion and you have the right to disagree)

LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#135
Naniwa's a douche, nothing to say
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Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#136
On November 20 2011 01:42 taintmachine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 01:38 Pulzlulz wrote:
Congratulations, you destroyed someone's reputation.


lol what? threads like this are so great because of comments like this.

where is the esports is dead because of naniwa (or the op) post?

What the fuck are you talking about? I speak about Naniwa.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#137
On November 20 2011 01:43 tztztz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.


drama queens? you don't see athlets in other sports or generelly people in public call each other idiots. it's a sign of maturity

Yeah how can this mature community do that?
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michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
November 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#138
On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.

and damn we should be darn proud of that, because this communitie actually cares about behaviour and their players. This scene reaches new hights in esports.
- me (L) competitive gaming -
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 19 2011 16:46 GMT
#139
Pointless thread, I don't know how it got this long. Comment was taken completely out of context.
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