On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.

Yeah pretty much lol.

clazzi

Japan122 Posts

November 19 2011 16:42 GMT

#124

My god who cares? Idra call people idiots all the time and when he does it everyone cheer on him and think it's funny. This shit is just ridiculous.

NicolBolas

United States1388 Posts

November 19 2011 16:43 GMT

#125

On November 20 2011 01:35 Theeakoz wrote:

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That is exactly what I am talking about, the way you word things. What does respect really mean? respect is shown by the way you put words next to each other in a sentence.

Yes, so we should vilify him for saying one thing that can be taken as disrespectful. In a live interview. In his non-native language.

Or, maybe we should just accept that there was a better way to word it and give him the benefit of the doubt.

Ultimately, it's up to us to decide what he intended by that remark. For me, the fact that it's a relative outlier suggests that no harm was intended. Had it been Idra, then it would be simply another in a long chain of disrespectful behavior.

Why conclude malice when error is the more likely answer?

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

November 19 2011 16:43 GMT

#126

On November 20 2011 01:39 tztztz wrote:

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what? it was an interview. naniwa should've chosen his words more carefully.

he gave an honest opinion. nestea did something stupid and naniwa won the game. from that you can infer that nani isnt cocky but infact believes nestea is very good (mechanically etc) but this weekend has been playing stupid/bad whatever you want to call it.

being seconds away from losing to idra, while being outplayed every game of their series, then losing to naniwa who couldnt win a game in code a. either nestea forgot how to zerg or hes been playing bad so far this weekend, theres no arguing with it.

id be a lot more bored with ESPORTS interviews if people started never speaking their minds. politicians giving interviews is one of the most boring things in tv, hearing nani say "ye, that was a dumb thing to do" makes it worth listening to

tztztz

Germany314 Posts

November 19 2011 16:43 GMT

#127

On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.

drama queens? you don't see athlets in other sports or generelly people in public call each other idiots. it's a sign of maturity

i6ly

Germany9 Posts

November 19 2011 16:43 GMT

#128

On November 20 2011 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:

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To be frank, Idra is funnier when he does this stuff. Completely regardless of how I feel about this cute little "incident," Idra's just funnier when flaming others.

funnier?
i don´t know, really ... seems to me that its kinda sad, but definitely not "funny".

Stress

United States980 Posts

November 19 2011 16:43 GMT

#129

Oh crap, Naniwa called Nestea an idiot! Call the internet police! Why is this even a thread? I mean honestly? Nestea made so many terrible decisions that game but I have no room to talk since both of them are far better players than I.

Apom

France656 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#130

On November 20 2011 01:35 Numy wrote:
Artosis's hype is really starting to have some really negative effects on the community. Well it's been having bad effects for awhile but man this is just sad.

Yeah I hope someone sends a question to the next SotG about this whole Nestea overblown hype thing. Artosis is so busy worshipping Nestea that he's actually not giving any credit/spotlight to people who deserve it more, and that detracts from his performance as a caster.

Theeakoz

United States1114 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#131

Grumbels

Netherlands7031 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#132

Naniwa also said he wasn't afraid of NesTea, that NesTea was overrated and that there were lots of better ZvP players than NesTea. He dissed him pretty hard, but that's okay, isn't Naniwa allowed to have an opinion like that? And I'm sure Naniwa is proficient enough in English that he can construct a simple sentence, he is Swedish, travels internationally and is pretty smart. Why shouldn't he have good English?

Nothingtosay

United States875 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#133

Naniwa never changed he is just not being as open with his opinions anymore (for good reason). That being said people think things like this all the time most of them just don't say it.

RainCoat

Sweden142 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#134

Can't beleve people care THIS much. It's a persons own right to say and state whatever he wants from his point of view. To say "He wont last long" or "He doesnt deserve anything" is just utter lame. You can maybe disrespect him as a person but as a player he's still a great gamer. It's like looking down on player X cause it accidentally came out that he was a socialist/right wing conservatism etc. He DOES deserve what he won/is winning/is going to win, cause he is a good player. And it's no meaning to make such a big deal out of this. This just saddens me to see the community beeing so hatefull just cause he doesn't say whatever other people want him to say, especially when it's such a small thing.

(This is of course my oppinion and you have the right to disagree)

LiamTheZerg

United States523 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#135

Naniwa's a douche, nothing to say

Pulzlulz

Germany412 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#136

On November 20 2011 01:42 taintmachine wrote:

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lol what? threads like this are so great because of comments like this.

where is the esports is dead because of naniwa (or the op) post?

What the fuck are you talking about? I speak about Naniwa.

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#137

On November 20 2011 01:43 tztztz wrote:

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drama queens? you don't see athlets in other sports or generelly people in public call each other idiots. it's a sign of maturity

Yeah how can this mature community do that?

michielbrands

Netherlands1146 Posts

November 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#138

On November 20 2011 01:40 K_Dilkington wrote:
You're all a bunch of drama queens, the SC2 community must be the most sensitive community in the world.

and damn we should be darn proud of that, because this communitie actually cares about behaviour and their players. This scene reaches new hights in esports.