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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 16:38:16
October 22 2011 13:25 GMT
#1
Last Updated: 27 December 2012

Please skim through the entire OP before posting. If you do not, chances are your thread will be locked for not following rules. There is a template at the bottom of the OP that you should use when asking for help.

If you have a simple question that can be asked in four sentences or less, post in an existing thread such as the "Simple Questions Simple Answers" thread. Please avoid making a new thread with a two or three line opening post.

It goes without saying that using the search function or Google should be the first thing you do. Very often, people will be in the same situation as you are and, therefore, will already be a solution to your query.

If you are providing advice or assistance with troubleshooting, please be somewhat competent in the area of discussion and read the entire opening post of the thread, preferably the entire thread. Be warned that providing obviously wrong information have resulted in warnings and even bans from the Tech Support forum in the past.

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Building your own computer?
Looking to build your own computer and need help with component selection or advice? Use the Computer Build Resource Thread . Make sure you read the OP as well as fill out the template. This will make it easier for the forum regulars to help you.

Need help on picking a mouse/keyboard/monitor/etc?
Please use existing threads for discussion of peripherals instead of starting a new one of your own:
- Teamliquid Monitor Thread
- Mechanical Keyboard Guide
- The Ultimate Mouse Thread
- Best Gaming Headset?
- Headphone enthusiast thread!

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++++++++ Guidelines for technical support ++++++++
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Please follow these guidelines. These guidelines exist to make it easier for yourself and your fellow forum users. You even may find a solution to your query or problem. Before asking for hardware support, please see if any of the following applies to you:

Need help with streaming?
Please read the "Stream Quality Guide" and "Streaming problem? Read this!" threads created by R1CH. Only open a new thread requesting for help after you have read both of these threads thoroughly. Some threads that may also help you in setting up a stream include but not limited to:

- Streaming 101 - By TheGunrun
- Xsplit video guide with justintv
- The Ultimate Xsplit+Dxtory streaming Guide

Experiencing a blue screen of death?
If you are experiencing a blue screen of death such. Please take note of the error code and look through this for the cause(s) and solution(s): http://aumha.org/a/stop.php

If your computer is rebooting before you can take note of the error code. You need to disable the automatic restart upon system failure. To do this, go into your Control Panel > System and Security > System > Advanced Systesm Settings > Advanced tab > Startup and Recovery Settings > Uncheck the Automatically restart checkbox.

+ Show Spoiler [How to Disable Automatic Restart] +
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Further information can be found in HackBenjamin's writeup: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226562

Experiencing poor performance, crashes, or random reboots?
Update your drivers which include but not limited to video and chipset.

Run memtest86+ and let it complete at least four passes. If errors appear during the test, it likely means that your memory is faulty and needs to be replaced.

Run prime95 (64bit) or Prime95 (32bit) and use the "In-place large FTTs" test. Monitor your temperatures during this time using Real Temp , Core Temp , or any other CPU temperature monitoring software. In addition to monitoring the temperature, please also monitor your CPU frequency using CPU-Z and CPU usage using the Windows Task Manager. This test should be ran for at least one hour, preferbly more to check for CPU stability and heat issues. Temperatures under 80C are acceptable and should be of no concern.

Run Furmark and use the "BURN-IN test" with your appropriate resolution and let it run for a minimum of thirty minutes. Use MSI Afterburner to monitor the temperature, clock speed, and GPU usage. Temperatures under 90C are acceptable and should be of no concern.


What do I do if I find a very obvious fault with my recently bought hardware/software?

Very often, many problems can be solved by simply contacting support. Companies spend lots and lots of money on post-sales support for a reason: to build customer loyalty. The often repeated idea that post-sales is useless is utterly false.

For instance, if your new computer rejects your Windows 7 serial key, the easiest solution is to explain to Microsoft what the problem is. If I remember correctly, the whole process is automated and Microsoft will reissue you with a new valid serial key.

Similarly, if your Dell monitor has numerous dead pixels, contacting warranty is the only and best solution. Attempting to fix the problem may exacerbate the issue; contacting warranty will not exacerbate any problems and will be the most painless solution.

If your product is within warranty and you are certain there is a fault with the item, it is very common to get a replacement no questions asked.

I can't find a solution to my problem and I don't know where to ask my query. Can I make a thread?

If you find no solution to your problem, then you are perfectly welcome to create a thread. Please follow the following guidelines:

Creating a thread requesting for help.
When you are opening a new thread requesting for technical help, please explain your problem thoroughly, provide system specifications, and as much other relevant information as possible.

Thread titles should be concise and descriptive. It should not include useless words such as problem, please, help, noob, etc. Please use abbreviations whenever possible such as blue screen of death = BSOD, computer = PC, Starcraft = SC, etc.

+ Show Spoiler [Past examples of good thread titles] +
- BSOD & monitor singal loss, Windows blames dxgkrnl
- Xsplit + Razer Banshee sound problem
- How do i filter Skype from my stream
- Starcraft 2 crashing/locking up my PC
- Monitor Out of Frequency Range, I can't change res
- nvlddmkm.sys BSOD XFX GTX 295


+ Show Spoiler [Past examples of bad thread titles] +
- Need a little bit of help....
- High budget computer build
- What is wrong with my PC?
- Complete Computer Noob
- General problems


The content of the opening post should be as detailed and clear as possible. It should contain all relevant information, a detailed explanation of your problem, as well as all of the solutions you have tried. To make it easier for you, here is a template which you can copy and fill out:

[b]Details of problem:[/b] 
This should contain a description of the problem as well as any details that may be related to the problem you are encountering. If you are suffering from blue screens and cannot find the solution, post the stop code that appears on the blue screen; if you suspect you are suffering from overheating, post your temperatures during load.

[b]Solutions and measures conducted:[/b]
This should contain all of the fixes you have tried in detail.

[b]Recent changes to hardware/software[/b]
This should contain any recent changes to your hardware/software, if applicable.

[b]System specs[/b]

Post your hardware specs. Try to be specific with the model and revision number if possible. If you don't know, that's OK but it may make things more difficult to diagnose.

If you are not knowledgeable enough to know anything about your computer, there is a simple program called [url=http://www.piriform.com/speccy]Speccy[/url] that will tell you most of everything that people need to know in order to assist you in solving your problem.

Either take a screenshot of the program window by pressing ALT and Print Screen or list it out. Here is an example of what you might post:

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT 512MB
4GB DDR2 800MHz
500GB Harddrive
Corsair CX430 (model of power supply is important)


Generally, it's a terrible thread if your opening post is less than ten lines long because it does not explain the problem thoroughly, provide the relevent information needed for diagnosis, it's something that you could have found through Google, or an existing thread should have been used.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
October 22 2011 21:52 GMT
#2
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Moderatorsloppy little slug
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
October 22 2011 21:53 GMT
#3
old one for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168222
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
October 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#4
Excellent, so much improvement from the old one!

Just one thing, I don't see a link to the Support FAQs and Guides Thread. Checking this should be item #1 on the list IMO.

Also I think advising people to run full Windows Update and update all drivers (assuming it is possible to do so) before posting a thread would be a good idea too. Many issues can be resolved this way.

On October 22 2011 22:25 skyR wrote:
Generally, it's a terrible thread if your opening post is less than ten lines long


Best advice ever.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#5
please read this guideline before making a new thread/posting i will start enforcing this more strictly
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Adnan Usmani
Profile Joined December 2011
Pakistan4 Posts
December 01 2011 10:54 GMT
#6
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Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
December 02 2011 18:29 GMT
#7
On December 01 2011 19:54 Adnan Usmani wrote:
i have large network in office including desktops and laptops sharing internet under windows server 2003 using internet isa server 2006.
some staff in our office are using bittorrent & utorrent to download movies and music which makes our internet slow and work delay. please help me to stop torrent downloading on network by doing some config support.
thanking you.


block torrenting ports....
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 01:38:28
January 08 2012 01:36 GMT
#8
Has anyone ever thought of opening up a "good deals" thread in the tech support forum? As someone that doesn't know a whole lot about tech, it would be awesome to have a resource where tech gurus could recommend good deals for laptops, tablets, etc. Almost every week there is a thread titled "Is this a good deal on a laptop?"

Sites like Newegg, buy.com, woot.com etc. have daily deals and it's hard for newbs like me to know what is a good deal or not. I'm looking to buy some new tech for the first time in forever and any advice on what' a good buy would be awesome. (I still use a 1gb sandisk mp3 player, never owned a laptop, tablet, smart phone, and I still use a VCR to record shows, to give you an idea how behind in tech I am)

It's also pretty annoying that every site uses that cheap marketing tactic where they cross out a price and put a cheaper price to make it look like you're saving money, when in reality that cheap price is what it always sells at.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#9
Not really necessary since there are already great communities for deal hunters.

www.slickdeals.net being the premiere one for the US and www.redflagdeals.com for Canada.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 09 2012 08:24 GMT
#10
I kind of agree. They know deals, but they don't know tech.

I still see a lot of misinformation on slickdeals. And every once in a while, when there is good information, you have to dig through several pages. And because of all the bad information surrounding it, non tech savvy users wouldn't know it's good information.

Still, it would be really difficult to update as stuff changes all the time, and I don't think enough people would benefit from it currently.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 17 2012 20:35 GMT
#11
http://betanews.com/2011/05/17/osforensics-gives-up-your-pc-s-deepest-darkest-secrets/
Really neat tool to check files with ( it's a beta )
sort of a compilation of things except it's not ultra expensive... ( free/beta )
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Vitrector
Profile Joined September 2011
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 09:00:15
January 19 2012 05:41 GMT
#12
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 19 2012 06:28 GMT
#13
The GPU is probably overheating so you would need to take apart your notebook and clean the dust.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:53:02
January 19 2012 06:31 GMT
#14
Can we move the post with the giant honking picture to somewhere that wont be seen by 50 million people as they view the guidelines? Im not sure this is the thread for complaining about things anyway -.-

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Unless you are me, complaining about complaining about things.
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may2hoo
Profile Joined January 2012
China2 Posts
January 30 2012 06:55 GMT
#15
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Eruaphadion
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 07:27:57
February 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#16
"STEP ON THE GAS"
Pretty Aluminum
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States95 Posts
February 08 2012 21:57 GMT
#17
I like how 4/5 of the examples for bad threads have more posts then the two examples of good threads.
It is never too late to be what you might have been. -- George Eliot
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 08 2012 22:08 GMT
#18
On February 09 2012 06:57 Pretty Aluminum wrote:
I like how 4/5 of the examples for bad threads have more posts then the two examples of good threads.


That's because bad threads are easier to respond to than good threads. In a bad thread that has little detail, posters tend to reply to what they percieve as the meaning or aim of the question--which is coincidentally always happens to result in a question they are capable of answering.

Good OPs with lots of detail filter out all of these pointless and wrong replies. More detail in the OP leads to a select few good answers to the question, not doing so will quite often lead to a mass of replies of which none are correct or helpful.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Sirajee
Profile Joined February 2012
Pakistan6 Posts
February 13 2012 06:09 GMT
#19
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tcho113
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
February 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#20
Awesome thanks!
to know the game you have to be taught. To be great at the game you have to practice, practice, and when u think your done practice some more.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 12 2012 14:44 GMT
#21
You should add: "If you don't want to listen to suggestions, don't bother asking for help, and if you try things that have been suggested, post updates on what you've tried and what (if any) effect they had."

plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
May 11 2012 13:58 GMT
#22
Hey thx.

Maybe you can add an "Ultimate Boot CD " section to you guide. I find it very helpful and its not OS dependend.
I use it mainly to check Memory ( either ram or Vram). It has many more functions though !

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/



The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Maxamix
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada165 Posts
June 28 2012 13:58 GMT
#23
@OP
I see an increasing amout of CPU thermal throttling at lower and lower temps. (I.E : 57°C, 61°C and 55°C are all cases i withness myself). Looking for a quick google, the maximal safe CPU temp are getting lower, so maybe if there is even a doubt about thermal throttling, running core temp + Prime95 until temps stabilize and making sure there is no throttling going on.

Also, i'd suggest a heatsink / dust off the computer once every 3-4 months.
CarndaraK
Profile Joined January 2013
5 Posts
January 19 2013 19:10 GMT
#24
I'm very new to this forum so excuse this post possibly being in the wrong section, this is about as close to the correct sub-forum I could find. This has to do with streams, basically what I'm interested in are overlays, but how they transition on pro streams. I find that lets say, if a member of Team Liquid is streaming, when he is not playing a game, there will be sort of like an overlay, a blue overlay, that doesnt show the game at all. Just the cam, and nothing else. You can't see what he is doing (or at times, you can, but the part is extremely small). But when a game is being played, you can see everything and it "transitions", which I find really cool. Can anyone help me on how to do this? Thanks.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 25 2013 06:45 GMT
#25
I've basically split this thread into two so lazy people have no excuse for not reading it.
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