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Zelthcon
United Kingdom53 Posts
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Olinim
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TimeFlighT
Australia257 Posts
i'd say "results disagree" | ||
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.Sic.
Korea (South)497 Posts
On October 06 2011 07:57 TerlocSG wrote: Innocent until proven guilty? I never saw any proof he hacked. I saw hints towards it, but nothing that proved the fact. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt to think he's not a hacker, so I say he isn't a hacker. And the attitude in this thread seemed acceptable to me. He didn't roll over and beg to be forgiven for something he didn't do; he stated his point and defended his person. With everything I've seen (both threads), I'd say he's legit. Unlucky situation, but not a hacker. How does that make any sense, all of his losses dont subtract points from him as a coincidence? are you kidding me? what about the people that know him that are calling him out as a hacker? the fact it happened to other people in matches against him? what about the fact that this entire situation fits the description of an actual hack that exists? that he magically knows i am cross positions? that he kept looking at fog of war? that he faked scouting? what about the fact that his team kicked him out? By your logic, no one can actually prove anyone is guilty. Unless we videotaped him doing this entire thing, AND there was proof that it was him and not his clone or some stupid shit. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
Your thought process is disturbing. If a person is accused of something enough.. he's guilty. That's truly frightening way to think. Its really not. lets think about Ben Roethlisberger. He was accused of rape what, 2, 3 times before he was suspended? Do you think those "accusations" come out of no where? You dont see people accusing TONS of athletes, none the less MULTIPLE occassions of it. Where theres smoke, theres fire. This is SO true when its repeatedly showing smoke >.> Plus, this "bug" ive never seen myself more than a couple times over 1500 games, and you have it what, 10 of your last 13 games? Saying you'll stream a game doesnt mean you dont hack, it means that time you didnt hack. Now, as you said "go through your match history" Alright; From top to bottom: 15 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 14 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 9.5 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] Tie (no data found) A win, where u gained points. This continues. Different amount of times. The occassional tie (which could be it not loading, but this rarely happens) and 3-4 LOSSES (for BOTH players) where zelth has little/no army left @ the end, however no poitns are stripped. He has 1k points. Need more evidence, really? You can scream bloody murder, but this ISNT the first time youve been tagged as a hacker. Furthermore; This is a LIST of posts by a user [Zelthcon] on ONE of the MANY hack sites when i looked on google. http://www.simplexhacks.com/search.php?searchid=15547 Now, you could say "omg it could be someone else" On sc2ranks, zelthcon is the only zelthcon user. Its a very unique name, and i doubt many others (if anyone) has the same tag as u. All the evidence is against you bro :/ | ||
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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Zergleaf
England34 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:05 Malpractice.248 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Its really not. lets think about Ben Roethlisberger. He was accused of rape what, 2, 3 times before he was suspended? Do you think those "accusations" come out of no where? You dont see people accusing TONS of athletes, none the less MULTIPLE occassions of it. Where theres smoke, theres fire. This is SO true when its repeatedly showing smoke >.> Plus, this "bug" ive never seen myself more than a couple times over 1500 games, and you have it what, 10 of your last 13 games? Saying you'll stream a game doesnt mean you dont hack, it means that time you didnt hack. Now, as you said "go through your match history" Alright; From top to bottom: 15 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 14 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 9.5 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] Tie (no data found) A win, where u gained points. This continues. Different amount of times. The occassional tie (which could be it not loading, but this rarely happens) and 3-4 LOSSES (for BOTH players) where zelth has little/no army left @ the end, however no poitns are stripped. He has 1k points. Need more evidence, really? You can scream bloody murder, but this ISNT the first time youve been tagged as a hacker. Furthermore; This is a LIST of posts by a user [Zelthcon] on ONE of the MANY hack sites when i looked on google. http://www.simplexhacks.com/search.php?searchid=15547 Now, you could say "omg it could be someone else" On sc2ranks, zelthcon is the only zelthcon user. Its a very unique name, and i doubt many others (if anyone) has the same tag as u. All the evidence is against you bro :/ You interchange "you" and "he" far too frequently for me to be sure who you are addressing, but you did quote me so i'm not sure. So if i pay 5 women to accuse you of rape.. well thats good enough.. no smoke without fire right judge? right?? guys..? guys? Oh. P.S. My argument isnt whether or not hes hacking, i dont give a shit either way, my argument is based around the idea that whatever is going on... threads like these are bad for the community as a whole. It'd be extremely sad to see just one legit player be the target of this much hate.. something i think your countries judicial system was meant to be built around.. Think it over. | ||
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IplayTerran
Germany42 Posts
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
"you can scream" isnt directly pointed at YOU, but anyone reading it. Also, if you pay 5 women to accuse me of rape, it would fall through, and you would get in trouble. Those women DIDNT get in trouble. BEN got in trouble. Just because you can think of some outlying situation, doesnt mean the old saying isnt true. Its an old saying for a reason. | ||
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.Sic.
Korea (South)497 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:08 Zergleaf wrote: You interchange "you" and "he" far too frequently for me to be sure who you are addressing, but you did quote me so i'm not sure. So if i pay 5 women to accuse you of rape.. well thats good enough.. no smoke without fire right judge? right?? guys..? guys? Oh. Why are you talking about 5 women and rape? smoke without fire? what does this have to do with you being a hacker? Bro, you aren't even intelligent enough to defend yourself. We could have stopped at you being a hacker, but now you are just showing us that you're a stupid hacker. Please, just stop while you have some dignity left. Oh wait... nvm | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
Wow, what a funny guy trying to use those who doesn't look in the fog lines... wtf? | ||
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Zergleaf
England34 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:10 IplayTerran wrote: Those 5 womens would lie because you payed them.The evidence Malpractice posted is from a database, you can't manipulate.Such a fail argument.. database's can have errors, bugs. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Almost everything you have said so far has further solidified this in my mind. That being said I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt for that 1% and not want to start a full-on witch hunt against you, but for now I don't respect you at all and I think you're a despicable individual. Only time (and more evidence) will tell if hacking is one of your faults Also, stop posting on zergleaf. It was registered TODAY and all the posts are in this thread and one other. It's obviously you or a good friend of yours. You're just making yourself look like more of a tool. | ||
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kilergrunt
United States263 Posts
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:10 IplayTerran wrote: Those 5 womens would lie because you payed them.The evidence Malpractice posted is from a database, you can't manipulate.Such a fail argument.. Well, technically, zelthcon can manipulate it, imo :p What i want from zelthcon is a replay pack of his recent games losses (say, last 20 ladder games), that way people can actually LOOK at it, and see if theres evidence of hacking. Ive had someone i THOUGHT was hacking, cuz he was doing everything perfectly, stopping everything, without scouting (literally, 100% perfect counters, exact army movements, etc) but he never panned over my base in FoW, and i won, so he wasnt tagged as a hacker, there was not enough "indisputable evidence" to show he was a hacker. So give us your recent 20 ladder games. Lets look at them, if your so innocent, it shouldnt be a problem. And is a far better way to look at this than "i didnt do it" Furthermore, If youve had this "bug" for a long time, dont you think you'd seek help from bnet support and fix it? | ||
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TheChostoProject
Mexico96 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:05 Malpractice.248 wrote: Its really not. lets think about Ben Roethlisberger. He was accused of rape what, 2, 3 times before he was suspended? Do you think those "accusations" come out of no where? You dont see people accusing TONS of athletes, none the less MULTIPLE occassions of it. Where theres smoke, theres fire. This is SO true when its repeatedly showing smoke >.> Plus, this "bug" ive never seen myself more than a couple times over 1500 games, and you have it what, 10 of your last 13 games? Saying you'll stream a game doesnt mean you dont hack, it means that time you didnt hack. Now, as you said "go through your match history" Alright; From top to bottom: 15 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 14 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] 9.5 minutes. Loss. No points lost. [If you look at his opponent, also a loss, no points lost, but zelth had no army left.] Tie (no data found) A win, where u gained points. This continues. Different amount of times. The occassional tie (which could be it not loading, but this rarely happens) and 3-4 LOSSES (for BOTH players) where zelth has little/no army left @ the end, however no poitns are stripped. He has 1k points. Need more evidence, really? You can scream bloody murder, but this ISNT the first time youve been tagged as a hacker. Furthermore; This is a LIST of posts by a user [Zelthcon] on ONE of the MANY hack sites when i looked on google. http://www.simplexhacks.com/search.php?searchid=15547 Now, you could say "omg it could be someone else" On sc2ranks, zelthcon is the only zelthcon user. Its a very unique name, and i doubt many others (if anyone) has the same tag as u. All the evidence is against you bro :/ Because people dont lie, specially when trying to black mail a famous and rich person, right? | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Zergleaf
England34 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:12 .Sic. wrote: Why are you talking about 5 women and rape? smoke without fire? what does this have to do with you being a hacker? Bro, you aren't even intelligent enough to defend yourself. We could have stopped at you being a hacker, but now you are just showing us that you're a stupid hacker. Please, just stop while you have some dignity left. Oh wait... nvm Second time in one day that i'm accused of being OP (in two different threads by two different OP's!) Looks like people on this site much prefer to bandwagon and throw around ad-hominem than actually think about their actions. If you don't hold the majority view, dont post? | ||
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IplayTerran
Germany42 Posts
Yeahr they can, maybe once or even twice, but not this many times.You argument is invaild. Just look up his profil, on the OFFICAL battlenet 2.0, look at his history.Nothing needs to say for me more.Proofen guilty. | ||
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Kokujin
United States456 Posts
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