EPT[IEM SPOILER] Oh the IdrA hate... - Page 15
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:07 Carny wrote: I'd say the same if I'd suck ass in every game and league i enter. The bad players are always the ones to talk the most trash. Im pretty sure he talked about people like you. Ofc he is happy with his fans and all. What he was saying is that there are so many haters everywhere, that in the end it's useless to worry about them. | ||
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Yannosh
Belgium93 Posts
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gehgrfhgrh
Germany294 Posts
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Phlatline
Croatia176 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:17 redFF wrote: His fanclub has over 1000 pages. brilliant analysis! | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:05 msjakofsky wrote: maybe you should notice first that most of the people have a problem with his personality, not his play. noone thinks he is a bad player. and not thinking he is the best in the world is still not "talking crap about him", even if his fans think so Go back and read through the early several pages again, and tell me they aren't just blindly hating on him. Read through their reasons on why they hate him. His personality is just hit or miss, but both sides of the spectrum love spewing shit. I'm here to correct that, and make sure both sides actually know what they're talking about instead of spewing what they heard 6 or so months ago. Yes, IdrA regularly talks shit, and often gets flamed for it, but at least he isn't a liar about what he thinks, and says exactly what is on his mind. This is why I don't mind his personality, as I know a lot of people that are just blunt about their intentions or thoughts. He's a good ZvT player that focuses on mid-game muta harass and late-game tech, which is why he always used to get taken out in the early game. People keep saying that he never learns and just keeps doing the same things over and over, but he clearly has adjusted his build orders to protect himself against early rushes and hellion harass, and has adapted different tactics to suit different maps (like his double evo on 2 base quick upgrades on big maps). People kept on saying that he just sticks to roach hydra against Protoss and just whines after he loses, but IdrA actually used a variety of builds to win himself a major title. You guys talk about how he has a shit personality, but you see him in recent interviews being amiable, even humorous, and interacting more often with the community via stream and posting on the SC2 tourneys threads. When raging about IdrA, you guys should use better or newer excuses. | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:21 SeaSwift wrote: ThorZain is no longer in mouz, PlaGuE_R. Source? | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:14 KillerSOS wrote: He has a point though... Tyler has had no results as of late, he's not really one to talk. I'm not saying I'm any good at this game... I just love watching it. I don't see at what point you make a relationship between not getting results and getting crap from the community, or between getting said results and having the 'right' to talk. In an ideal world, crap from the community should be directed at jackasses and assholes, not at players because of their results. True fans cheer you when you win and when you lose, as long as you do your best. | ||
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haffy
United Kingdom430 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:10 windsupernova wrote: This pretty much sums up my views on this. I mean I don´t ¨hate¨ idra, but seriously this thread reeks of ¨I can´t handle different opinions¨. I can tell you why people dislike idra: -He disrespects fellow competitors and the competition itself. - He is one of the pros who whines about balance the most -He acts as if he was the top foreigner when he is losing to them(or was) on a frequent basis. -He disrespects the fans of the fucking games(and let me say this, without them idra would not be living the life he has now) -His fans are annoying as fuck(well not idras fault but oh well lol antifanboys) That being said, I like how the guy plays. I don´t hate him or anything, I respect his skill and yeah the antifanboys are as retarded as the fanboys but that doesn´t mean there are no legit reasons to not like idra. One thing I hope is that the same idra fans who retardedly jumped into the Cruncher bandwagon hate(delegitimizing all his play blah blah blah) are not the same people complaining about the unnecessary hate for idra. So who do you hate? I get kind of confused with posts like this. You hate Idra fan boys right? You hate anti Idra fans? So really what your saying is you hate people talking about Idra. But your post was about Idra, so you hate your self? To be honest I don't really like people who can generalise a persons entire personality, or likes/dislikes from knowing very little information about someone. Hey you like basketball?! You racist! It makes as much sense to me as that. So what I'm trying to say is I don't like people with a over simplified opinion. Or you in this case. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6185 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:19 Yannosh wrote: Your title still suggests a spoiler imo, referring to Idra makes it pretty obvious who won the whole thing, don't you think so? not at all, idra is known for raging after he lose. Could had been because of that | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:21 KanoCoke wrote: Go back and read through the early several pages again, and tell me they aren't just blindly hating on him. Read through their reasons on why they hate him. His personality is just hit or miss, but both sides of the spectrum love spewing shit. I'm here to correct that, and make sure both sides actually know what they're talking about instead of spewing what they heard 6 or so months ago. Yes, IdrA regularly talks shit, and often gets flamed for it, but at least he isn't a liar about what he thinks, and says exactly what is on his mind. This is why I don't mind his personality, as I know a lot of people that are just blunt about their intentions or thoughts. He's a good ZvT player that focuses on mid-game muta harass and late-game tech, which is why he always used to get taken out in the early game. People keep saying that he never learns and just keeps doing the same things over and over, but he clearly has adjusted his build orders to protect himself against early rushes and hellion harass, and has adapted different tactics to suit different maps (like his double evo on 2 base quick upgrades on big maps). People kept on saying that he just sticks to roach hydra against Protoss and just whines after he loses, but IdrA actually used a variety of builds to win himself a major title. You guys talk about how he has a shit personality, but you see him in recent interviews being amiable, even humorous, and interacting more often with the community via stream and posting on the SC2 tourneys threads. When raging about IdrA, you guys should use better or newer excuses. The most pathetic excuse to me is the one about "I hate his fans". It always makes me laugh. | ||
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sirreginold
United States557 Posts
That being said, I think Idra still has a long way to go to compete vs the elite code S players that would just tear him apart. If he can commit himself to training in Korea, I could see him making a run for a code S spot and getting deep in the tourney. | ||
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
Now i'm not trying to bash americans, every countries has his fair share of haters but it is also the only scene where players are hyped due to being "personalities" rather than on their skill level and we just end up with a lot of drama/hating and players caring way too much about their perceived image (and prolly not enough about the game). Idra is one of the guys that get a disproportionnate amount of attention (and hate) due to this but there is also no denying that he is a legit top player. As for his mindset/bm, I think it's just silly and hurt his game more than anything but he has the merit of being honest instead of saying random bs to gain the community approval. | ||
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:21 KanoCoke wrote: Go back and read through the early several pages again, and tell me they aren't just blindly hating on him. Read through their reasons on why they hate him. His personality is just hit or miss, but both sides of the spectrum love spewing shit. I'm here to correct that, and make sure both sides actually know what they're talking about instead of spewing what they heard 6 or so months ago. Yes, IdrA regularly talks shit, and often gets flamed for it, but at least he isn't a liar about what he thinks, and says exactly what is on his mind. This is why I don't mind his personality, as I know a lot of people that are just blunt about their intentions or thoughts. He's a good ZvT player that focuses on mid-game muta harass and late-game tech, which is why he always used to get taken out in the early game. People keep saying that he never learns and just keeps doing the same things over and over, but he clearly has adjusted his build orders to protect himself against early rushes and hellion harass, and has adapted different tactics to suit different maps (like his double evo on 2 base quick upgrades on big maps). People kept on saying that he just sticks to roach hydra against Protoss and just whines after he loses, but IdrA actually used a variety of builds to win himself a major title. You guys talk about how he has a shit personality, but you see him in recent interviews being amiable, even humorous, and interacting more often with the community via stream and posting on the SC2 tourneys threads. When raging about IdrA, you guys should use better or newer excuses. Well they rage (I would imagine) because it gets them attention (also see my spoiler :p). There are plenty of reasonable posts around, but people largely ignore them. Unfortunately most threads devolve into replying to the sensational posts while ignoring the rational ones. That isn't a TL fault, just a universal internet one. | ||
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JBanKs
United Kingdom617 Posts
Well played to IdrA, can't wait to see him at ESWC | ||
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote: No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say. Sure, badmouth the people who make it possible for you to get payed to play a freaking VIDEOGAME.. But anyways, I don't know why the OP would even give a shit. It's not your problem, it's idras own problem that his behaviour pissed of a big part of the community. But I'm pretty sure he doesn't care, so why would you? | ||
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Kairos~
Canada129 Posts
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