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Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
October 04 2011 15:42 GMT
#241
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring
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RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 15:43:49
October 04 2011 15:43 GMT
#242
On October 05 2011 00:35 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:21 Apolo wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Careful there. The only reason you can live off gamming is because of the community, and the fans that pay to watch you.


His point is that when it comes to subject likes these its retarded to even try to must a proper response to anything because everyone has an opinion on everybody and everything.


His point should of been better illustrated then. All I got from that post is that Liquid Tyler thinks that the comunity which pays his bills is worthless and the pros ignore us.

Maybe we should ignore you guys for a while see how smug you are then.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 04 2011 15:44 GMT
#243
On October 05 2011 00:41 CabelD wrote:
IdrA is a good player.
He could be an awesome guy outside this game; we could be best friends, hell if I know. But you guys must not get it, IdrA "haters" don't hate him because he is good, they "hate" him because he cannot take losses / wins and his attitude in game is not the best. IdrA is not a very charismatic player and his balance rants really are just there because he doesn't want to accept that the Brood War, 10 years playing this game, won so many tournaments, champion, foreign hero zerg is losing to people who are "new" to the game, such as HuK or Minigun. Either way he is a great player, he def shows results, but he doesn't have the best attitude.

Just stating my opinion, thanks. HF Gaming.



i think most of the people don't have a problem with anyone being a fan of idra's play. the problem is being a fan of his personality

and btw he is not charismatic, probably you meant a different word
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
October 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#244
I dont get it, whats the drama about?
Are people forgetting that Puma left KOREA and is training with a NA team now?
Of course his skill will start degrading, what else did you guys expect to happen?


Also, way to shoot yourself in the foot, Tyler

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
October 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#245
If you hadn't yet figured out that the community sucks then, uh, welcome to the internet where every gaming community is pretty much retarted :|
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 04 2011 15:46 GMT
#246
On October 05 2011 00:41 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:36 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:34 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:29 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:25 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:22 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:10 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:09 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:06 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:05 PlaGuE_R wrote:
[quote]

I'm French....how do I not qualify as a french speaking person!? O_O

Well you're not Canadian ... he doesn't like French-Canadians specifically because we're crazy or something.


well, to be fair, we think there's something wrong with you too what's up with your weird way of butchering our gorgeous language?! >: ( !! just kidding, big <3 to my brothers from across the pond! French Hwaiting! xD

Hey maybe if you defended your colony properly =P


hey, the english had better navy and we were busy fighting elsewhere. We couldn't be everywhere at once

=( you don't value beaverskin hats, I see...


Nooo! we miss you, our little northern colony </3

I visited Paris once. Liked the hot chicks with rifles under the Eiffel tower.
<3


I live in Paris ^_^ if you ever visit again tell me arent Parisian women frigging gorgeous? <3 :D

Yes, yes indeed. Montreal women are beautiful as well, luckily! Your food is better though. =D


are they? I may have to visit Montreal then :D
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#247
On October 05 2011 00:42 Dawg_Snow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring


Tyler is pointing out how dumb the community is. Someone wins a tournament and the first thing that happens is they try to devalue the win. No matter what they say, the troll will not believe them and assume that the win was "fixed".

Or as my grandfather say, "Never argue with a drunk or a fool." A lot of the time the community fits into that group. Why waste your time worrying about it?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BjC
Profile Joined February 2011
England181 Posts
October 04 2011 15:51 GMT
#248
I've not hated on Idra, winning the IEM was a great achievement. I do hate how he gets so much attention when he is really only top 5 foreign zergs and nothing special. He is on many shows and always front page news and on a great salary. When many other equal and if not better foreign players are struggling to get to events even. I think some of the hate people have for him is the green eyed monster because of his high profile and also wishing there favoured players that they feel more deserve the spotlight.
Also he doesnt come across like he even likes the game and is just in it for the money and i hate how he calls people retards and has no respect.

It really is hard to like a guy that bitches about every thing and calls every one a retard. I just dont get why he has fans...

Regardless though, well done Idra for winning IEM, didnt look good in the group stages but proved that foreigners can take it to the koreans and win big events. I hope this is a springboard for confidence and we see this more often.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 15:55:14
October 04 2011 15:53 GMT
#249
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Someone is a bit salty.

Why would you think it's a good idea to post this on the Community forums??

But I respect IdrA for his win, he had a crazy egotistical manner, but he's an amazing player.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 04 2011 15:55 GMT
#250
On October 05 2011 00:51 BjC wrote:
I've not hated on Idra, winning the IEM was a great achievement. I do hate how he gets so much attention when he is really only top 5 foreign zergs and nothing special. He is on many shows and always front page news and on a great salary. When many other equal and if not better foreign players are struggling to get to events even. I think some of the hate people have for him is the green eyed monster because of his high profile and also wishing there favoured players that they feel more deserve the spotlight.
Also he doesnt come across like he even likes the game and is just in it for the money and i hate how he calls people retards and has no respect.

It really is hard to like a guy that bitches about every thing and calls every one a retard. I just dont get why he has fans...

Regardless though, well done Idra for winning IEM, didnt look good in the group stages but proved that foreigners can take it to the koreans and win big events. I hope this is a springboard for confidence and we see this more often.


I love this statement. I boils down to this:

"Of all the zergs outside of Korea, which encompasses the entire world and all Starcraft players, he is only top 5. I mean seriously, that's not that impressive. He is only better than 99.7% players in the entire world. I am really only interested in that last .3% of zergs in the world."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
October 04 2011 15:56 GMT
#251
On October 05 2011 00:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:42 Dawg_Snow wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring


Tyler is pointing out how dumb the community is.


and you prove his point by actually defending what he said

well done, lol (:

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
October 04 2011 15:57 GMT
#252
On October 05 2011 00:42 Dawg_Snow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring


Or maybe the truth? Reading TL has become pearl diving in a sea of shit.
Some pearls are worth it tho.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 04 2011 15:59 GMT
#253
On October 05 2011 00:46 PlaGuE_R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:41 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:36 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:34 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:29 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:25 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:22 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:10 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:09 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:06 Djzapz wrote:
[quote]
Well you're not Canadian ... he doesn't like French-Canadians specifically because we're crazy or something.


well, to be fair, we think there's something wrong with you too what's up with your weird way of butchering our gorgeous language?! >: ( !! just kidding, big <3 to my brothers from across the pond! French Hwaiting! xD

Hey maybe if you defended your colony properly =P


hey, the english had better navy and we were busy fighting elsewhere. We couldn't be everywhere at once

=( you don't value beaverskin hats, I see...


Nooo! we miss you, our little northern colony </3

I visited Paris once. Liked the hot chicks with rifles under the Eiffel tower.
<3


I live in Paris ^_^ if you ever visit again tell me arent Parisian women frigging gorgeous? <3 :D

Yes, yes indeed. Montreal women are beautiful as well, luckily! Your food is better though. =D


are they? I may have to visit Montreal then :D

Why of course =P
Strangely my gf was imported from the US but you won't be disappointed with the locals
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 16:03:50
October 04 2011 16:01 GMT
#254
On October 05 2011 00:57 LagT_T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:42 Dawg_Snow wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring


Or maybe the truth? Reading TL has become pearl diving in a sea of shit.
Some pearls are worth it tho.


It is probably true. Doesn't mean that Tyler should go around saying that on the community forums that his Pro Team operates.

EDIT: Not that I'm saying people should be less honest. But it's bad PR.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
October 04 2011 16:02 GMT
#255
It's funny how so many people talking crap about IdrA in this thread are mentioning a lot of the things IdrA has done in the past, and aren't even looking at his games in IEM.

IdrA finally mixed things up, taking down Elfi in the last game with a speedling roach all-in after he noticed Elfi commiting to a forge fast expand in Xel'Naga Caverns. You guys got what you wanted with him actually varying his strategies (even with his late game tech switches), and IdrA actually never left a game too early, always played out the games until he either won or lost really badly (especially the games against PuMa), and also was fairly respectful to everyone besides Protoss players that use strategies he personally didn't like (which just so happened to be Elfi).

Instead of just repeating what everyone else is raging about blindly, these people should actually just shut up and watch first.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Hantak
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile59 Posts
October 04 2011 16:02 GMT
#256
lol love the touchy guys over what tyler said, its mostly truth...

I come here as an informative/entretaining way to learn from the game and hang out.
But i dont think this is as important as you guys think it is, i already got too much into forum related stuff and got flamed by it, wont happen again.

If you guys are so mad about stuff like this go on and make a thread on it, because thats all you can do, most of us are near invisible to pro gamers, just an extra number on the stream.
And seriously you are fooling yourself if you think you pay the bill of those gamers :D they earn money because they are good not because you "like" them.
It's getting too hot.
ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 16:05:41
October 04 2011 16:03 GMT
#257
Mana have beaten Puma so many time (5) and people dont give a shit about it while idra who is a teamate of puma ( know his style insideout ) got hyped over 7 lair of heaven just by beating him.The next IEM which Mana gonna attend will show how Idra and EG team( maybe all NA players LOL) suck at SC2.

PS: Elfi worst match up is vZ.
Mass Marine
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 04 2011 16:03 GMT
#258
On October 05 2011 00:59 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:46 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:41 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:36 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:34 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:29 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:25 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:22 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:10 Djzapz wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:09 PlaGuE_R wrote:
[quote]

well, to be fair, we think there's something wrong with you too what's up with your weird way of butchering our gorgeous language?! >: ( !! just kidding, big <3 to my brothers from across the pond! French Hwaiting! xD

Hey maybe if you defended your colony properly =P


hey, the english had better navy and we were busy fighting elsewhere. We couldn't be everywhere at once

=( you don't value beaverskin hats, I see...


Nooo! we miss you, our little northern colony </3

I visited Paris once. Liked the hot chicks with rifles under the Eiffel tower.
<3


I live in Paris ^_^ if you ever visit again tell me arent Parisian women frigging gorgeous? <3 :D

Yes, yes indeed. Montreal women are beautiful as well, luckily! Your food is better though. =D


are they? I may have to visit Montreal then :D

Why of course =P
Strangely my gf was imported from the US but you won't be disappointed with the locals


importation is good sometimes :D I got to an American university and some of the US imported goods look very very good :D
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
DoLookMoreLike
Profile Joined January 2011
155 Posts
October 04 2011 16:03 GMT
#259
On October 05 2011 00:57 LagT_T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:42 Dawg_Snow wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
No one cares. We know the community is worthless. After a while, we learn to ignore everything you say.


Not sure if troll or just very bad PR/attention whoring


Or maybe the truth? Reading TL has become pearl diving in a sea of shit.
Some pearls are worth it tho.


Quoted for truth. I think this is exactly what Tyler is getting at. As progamers they just have to focus on their game and not care what people on a forum think about them.
Rndm
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 04 2011 16:05 GMT
#260
On October 05 2011 01:02 KanoCoke wrote:
It's funny how so many people talking crap about IdrA in this thread are mentioning a lot of the things IdrA has done in the past, and aren't even looking at his games in IEM.

IdrA finally mixed things up, taking down Elfi in the last game with a speedling roach all-in after he noticed Elfi commiting to a forge fast expand in Xel'Naga Caverns. You guys got what you wanted with him actually varying his strategies (even with his late game tech switches), and IdrA actually never left a game too early, always played out the games until he either won or lost really badly (especially the games against PuMa), and also was fairly respectful to everyone besides Protoss players that use strategies he personally didn't like (which just so happened to be Elfi).

Instead of just repeating what everyone else is raging about blindly, these people should actually just shut up and watch first.


maybe you should notice first that most of the people have a problem with his personality, not his play. noone thinks he is a bad player. and not thinking he is the best in the world is still not "talking crap about him", even if his fans think so
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