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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
July 22 2011 19:08 GMT
#1121
Reports are the 30 or more kids have been killed at the island. (Not confirmed)

And a train to the airport was stopped after an unkown item was found on the rails.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 22 2011 19:08 GMT
#1122
The guards who let the guy over said it was a rifle with a scope if I don't remember incorrectly
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1123
On July 23 2011 04:08 Triggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:02 vyyye wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:01 enemy2010 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:50 Bigpet wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:47 steamrice wrote:
omg...

20-30 bodies found on rocks / floating off the short of utoya...

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stop posting that unspoilered or better yet at all

German media says that actually some of these kids from the island tried to swim to land.

Maybe its just these kids swimming....

People said earlier that this was filmed and weren't images, the bodies weren't moving.


TV2 showed some footage earlier(less than 30min ago) of those kids in the water and you could clearly see that they were moving. I'm puzzled as to why nobody has picked them up yet tho.

Oh? That's good news at least.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1124
I can remotely understand trying to accomplish something by bombing a politics-related building, but shooting innocent children is just brutal. I hope no more fatalities happened than are confirmed.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1125
On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.

I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it


Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it.

Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN.


nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right?
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1126
On July 23 2011 04:07 Robinsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:04 trucane wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:03 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.

I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it

Oh and also on the topic about no guards on the island. If the guy was disguised as a cop wouldn't it make sense he would target the guard/guards first in a surprise attack and thus they would be completely "useless" when it comes to controlling the situation


If he had an ordinary gun, maybe, but the shooter used a fully automatic weapon. You can't really stop that with your fist.


From what I read he had a regular Glock pistol and a Rifle with a scope. I presume the rifle wasn't a fully automatic one as I'm sure they would mentioned that.

I havent heard anything about the type of weapon except that they mentioned that it would be an automatic weapon on BBC. There are many rumours out there atm.

Some say it was a Glock.
But can't Glocks be automatic? or have I played too much CS?
"!@€#" - as some guy said
colate
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 19:10:30
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1127
NRK quotes police as saying they now suspect one or more bombs may be at the scene at Utoya - MSNBC

Source: http://on.msnbc.com/oI7FPC

Sky sources: Man arrested on Utoya island, Norway after being shot and wounded
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#1128
On July 23 2011 04:08 DwD wrote:
The guards who let the guy over said it was a rifle with a scope if I don't remember incorrectly


Gotta be tough for the guard/s tbh.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1129
On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.

I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it

Oh and also on the topic about no guards on the island. If the guy was disguised as a cop wouldn't it make sense he would target the guard/guards first in a surprise attack and thus they would be completely "useless" when it comes to controlling the situation

Yeah it is easy to think like this for us at home, but you can't really do this when it's happening because you don't know if you are the only one thinking like this and if you try something while the others just runs for their life you are pretty much dead...
Eventh
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway45 Posts
July 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1130
Dagbladet just reported that police think 10 dead at utøya, and that the earlier reported number of 20+ is wrong.
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
July 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1131
On July 23 2011 04:07 trucane wrote:
Can people stop misquoting me... I said that in THIS case it was understandable that the kids did what they did. I was talking about the situation in general and not this specific case.

Well no offense, but this thread is for THIS case, and the post you wrote came out quite stupid and cold for this specific situation.
"Choose life!"
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
July 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1132
BBC saying that "friends of global jihad" group claimed responsibility for the attack. Didn't that same group issue a retraction earlier?
traxdatacd
Profile Joined February 2011
Croatia21 Posts
July 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#1133
of all countrys in the western world....they atack norway....ffs why?!?
tko lezi ne bjezi
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
July 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#1134
On July 23 2011 04:09 Weson wrote:
But can't Glocks be automatic? or have I played too much CS?

Yes, they can.
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 19:11:47
July 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#1135
I like how we have on every page 1-2 people constantly forcing the issue of relating it to Islamic groups, or possibly blond Norwegian 40 yr old converts with Norwegian dialects. Cant u guys simply wait till officials give out their reasoning?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#1136
On July 23 2011 04:10 partisan wrote:
BBC saying that "friends of global jihad" group claimed responsibility for the attack. Didn't that same group issue a retraction earlier?


Something like that. But remember, these groups always take responsibility of these kind of attacks. Doesn't mean that they did this.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
July 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#1137
On July 23 2011 04:09 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:08 DwD wrote:
The guards who let the guy over said it was a rifle with a scope if I don't remember incorrectly


Gotta be tough for the guard/s tbh.


Hopefully not I mean he did nothing wrong. But I do imagine he might be blaming himself which would be a sad thing.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#1138
On July 23 2011 04:10 partisan wrote:
BBC saying that "friends of global jihad" group claimed responsibility for the attack. Didn't that same group issue a retraction earlier?


They retracted it, they said that it was not an official statement, and that the real perpetrators "must be known" or something along those lines.

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#1139
On July 23 2011 04:09 Detwiler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.

I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it


Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it.

Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN.


nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right?



Rifle with scope. --> assault rifle with optics

NYT.com

gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 19:16:02
July 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#1140
On July 23 2011 04:09 Weson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:07 Robinsa wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:04 trucane wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:03 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.

I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it

Oh and also on the topic about no guards on the island. If the guy was disguised as a cop wouldn't it make sense he would target the guard/guards first in a surprise attack and thus they would be completely "useless" when it comes to controlling the situation


If he had an ordinary gun, maybe, but the shooter used a fully automatic weapon. You can't really stop that with your fist.


From what I read he had a regular Glock pistol and a Rifle with a scope. I presume the rifle wasn't a fully automatic one as I'm sure they would mentioned that.

I havent heard anything about the type of weapon except that they mentioned that it would be an automatic weapon on BBC. There are many rumours out there atm.

Some say it was a Glock.
But can't Glocks be automatic? or have I played too much CS?

Yes they can The glock-18 at least has a fully automatic setting but I doubt he had one.
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