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SWAT-Kat
United States311 Posts
Though the motives and perpetrators are completely different, this feels eerily similar to that day in Blacksburg, VA...1 killed, 2, 7, 30+...It pains me to think about it. Sadly, this appears to be so much worse.  Stay strong! The world is with you! | ||
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Tristy
Norway172 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 DannyJ wrote: Did this island not have cops or something? Its a small small island where you have summer camps etc, I am not even sure people live there normally. | ||
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partisan
United States783 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:52 Z3kk wrote: Yeah, I want to figure out exactly what is happening. It would be much appreciated. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/wires/live_wire/live_wire.html?ref=fpa I've been using that and this thread to keep up to date. TPM live wire will link to the news service running the story, so it's more reliable than twitter. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 DannyJ wrote: Did this island not have cops or something? Does summer camps usually have cops/armed guards there? | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 trucane wrote: One thing speaking against Islam extremists is the fact that it seemed to be quite a sophisticated attack. I mean if we compare it to the usual terror attacks this one did not include a suicide bombing and it included a person disguised as a police officer. Then again it doesn't matter who did it or for what reasons since the outcome is still the same, a lot of dead innocent civilians. Read about extremist tactics. Impersonations of army/police personnel is in fact an incredibly common tactic. Within the past couple of weeks multiple Afghan officials have been murdered by impersonators. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:43 saris84 wrote: Imagine, first a policeman (as far as they knew) started shooting at the kids. Then, more policemen show up. The fear these children have felt, and the pain, the panic....how can someone ever recuperate from that, mentally  I couldn't finish my dinner, I just feel so helpless. I wish I could go there and hold them, save them. Im usually pretty jaded to these events, but I guess it being close to home coupled with me being so damn far away from home right now, makes this feel different.... | ||
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Tleaf
Canada181 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 DannyJ wrote: Did this island not have cops or something? it's a youth retreat.... they sent cops there but there person DRESSED up as a cop :/ | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 DannyJ wrote: Did this island not have cops or something? It's tiny, it seems it's main purpose was just for people to chill at camp | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:54 DannyJ wrote: Did this island not have cops or something? It was a summer camp for kids. The island is like 4 cabins and 2 square km. Cops really not needed (usually) | ||
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decemvre
Romania639 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:50 Bigpet wrote: stop posting that unspoilered or better yet at all Why ? People need to see. Please post more screens. | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:45 Detwiler wrote: Im not exaggerating anything. The differance is you think i know. I have 7 years in and 4 combat deployments and im telling you flat out that getting a killshot isnt as easy as point and shoot. Now if the reports were 7 dead 20 wounded it would be believable. But the reports they are talking about say 20+ dead. Now in my 1st post on it i said i doubt he actually killed that many BUT if its true the guy had to have had training. To raise the point though if people are swimming away any kind of bullet wound would probably cause enough trauma and shock to make the person drown. I am really really hoping it is like 7 dead 20 wounded instead of the other way around, but this whole thing makes me feel sick. | ||
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kekepop
55 Posts
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Weson
Iceland1032 Posts
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:47 steamrice wrote: omg... 20-30 bodies found on rocks / floating off the short of utoya... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AZSH9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mk7VA.jpg) Sadly, I would think it is possible many have drowned trying to swim to escape.. Especially considering they were probably fully dressed. Pure tragedy. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
Det kommer en silvergrå skåpbil. I den sitter en polisman iförd polisuniform och skottsäker väst. Han kommer ut ur bilen och visar legitimation och säger att han är utsänd för att kontrollera säkerheten, att det är en ren rutinhandling med anledning av terrorangreppet. Allt ser trovärdigt ut och en båt tillkallas som kör över honom till Utöya. Sen gick det några minuter och vi hörde skottlossning, säger vakten Brænden Mortensen till VG. A silvergrey van came. In it a policeman sits with uniform and kevlar. He shows ID and says that he is sent out to controll the safety and that it's rutin. Everything looks believable and a boat is summoned that takes him to Utöya. Then a couple of minutes passed and we heard gunshots says the guard Braenden Mortensen. They also confirm he is under costudy and that he is about 1.9M tall, blond hair looked norwegian and was in his 30-40's. And he spoke with a norweigian dialect. | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
So confirmed now that both are related. sickening bastard.... | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:55 Piski wrote: It was a summer camp for kids. The island is like 4 cabins and 2 square km. Cops really not needed (usually) Apparently there were 700 people there, unless that's all wrong. Doesn't seem that nuts to have some sort of police or enforcement if not just for health reasons. | ||
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Tleaf
Canada181 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:57 sushiman wrote: Sadly, I would think it is possible many have drowned trying to swim to escape.. Especially considering they were probably fully dressed. Pure tragedy. yeah this breaks my heart | ||
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Dreis1337
32 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:56 kekepop wrote: Has anybody heard more about the car that was surrounded at Gardermoen Airport? I think I posted that question several pages ago, but I didnt get to see if there were any replies... Apprently something was found by the fly toget tracks so all the fly toget have been stopped. | ||
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