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On July 23 2011 02:35 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:24 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:15 vyyye wrote:On July 23 2011 02:12 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:06 GoTuNk! wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Sqq wrote:
saying now the shooter on the island had a glock, not the reported automatic that CNN managed to say I don't get it. Isn't there a single armed cop on the island? When i went to Oslo the street cops werent armed i actually walked up and asked one and he said they keep there side arms locked in their patrol cars. I remember thinking at the time thats a really useless place to have your gun but just chalked it up to me being american and used to everyone being armed. If Norway is anything like Sweden people wouldn't be very happy if there was any weapon on an island strictly used for a children's summer camp. Prior to this incident at least. Weird how are you gonna guard anything without a gun? What are they suppose to yell please stop? I know they arent a big fan of guns over there. But shouldnt the cops and gaurds have weapons im mean just in case something like this happen? It's just a different approach to keeping the citizen safe. If you don't use guns(much), you don't force criminals to be armed to 'protect themselves'. Personally I like it more. The police can still use guns, but in day to day life, there are less shootings.
Same in Singapore, only cops have guns, civillians not allowed to own guns or you get jailed
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On July 23 2011 02:34 PolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.
The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government. I wouldn't be posting that... Just sayin'.
Agreed, that kind of things could get you a visit from law enforcement officers...
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Confirmed 7 dead and 2 injured from the bomb.
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On July 23 2011 02:37 Nizaris wrote:
7 ppl killed 2 wounded from the bomb in oslo
police report on bbc
edit: also saying the shooter had an automatic weapon on Utoya.
2 severly wounded. The streets were littered with minor injured.
And another 7 killed at "Utøya" 
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On July 23 2011 02:36 saksy2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS. The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/ I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists. "afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans " This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp. Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything. You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism... Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror.... 1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them? 2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe? 3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me. This is a graph showing terrorist attacks in the European Union <- From wikipedia. You are wrong
Not saying that you're wrong but if you want to be taken seriously don't post wikipedia links as proof.
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7 confirmed dead in shootings at Utøya
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7 people confirmed killed at utøya
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On July 23 2011 02:37 Detwiler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:32 gosuMalicE wrote:On July 23 2011 02:24 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:15 vyyye wrote:On July 23 2011 02:12 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:06 GoTuNk! wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Sqq wrote:
saying now the shooter on the island had a glock, not the reported automatic that CNN managed to say I don't get it. Isn't there a single armed cop on the island? When i went to Oslo the street cops werent armed i actually walked up and asked one and he said they keep there side arms locked in their patrol cars. I remember thinking at the time thats a really useless place to have your gun but just chalked it up to me being american and used to everyone being armed. If Norway is anything like Sweden people wouldn't be very happy if there was any weapon on an island strictly used for a children's summer camp. Prior to this incident at least. Weird how are you gonna guard anything without a gun? What are they suppose to yell please stop? I know they arent a big fan of guns over there. But shouldnt the cops and gaurds have weapons im mean just in case something like this happen? Cops yes, there should have been a (real) one with a gun. But who the hell thinks its a good idea to give a security guard a gun? those guys are usually roid-raging police academy dropouts who don't think things through/have behavioral disorders that don't let them be real police, so why should they get guns? Seriously a bad idea. Edi: Oh nvm you are american, makes sense now. Seriously a bad idea? I bet the poor people dead on the island wish some body had the horrible idea of having armed gaurds.
Don't start you "guns would've kept you safe" bullshit in this thread now. Thank you.
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On July 23 2011 02:30 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:23 Nivoh wrote:On July 23 2011 01:27 RieuK wrote:On July 23 2011 01:20 Nivoh wrote:
I fail to see how this is different from stuff happening every single day all over the globe, other than the victim for once being the people of a rich country. It is different. Norway has no grievances against other countries, well not that I know of. It would seem strange to attack a peaceful country. Peaceful? We're involved in both Lybia and Afghanistan. If Gaddafi is responsible he must have hired someone, radical groups don't really share his agenda anymore. But I bet he would have already gone public by now.
Just last week Gaddafi said that he was going to take the fight to Europe using Liya refugees. Take it for what it's worth.
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damn hope everybody is alright.
no more bombs!
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On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.
The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.
why is he not banned?
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On July 23 2011 02:35 Blackrobe wrote:
Welcome to a "secure" country, your daily lives will now be more difficult. D:
That depends on the person, I've been waiting for this for some time now. You don't shit in someone elses yard and don't expect the same to happen to you.
(Yes I'm referring to the Norwegian Armys' participation in wars here and there.)
It's been pretty clear what happens to countries that follow America on the battlefield after 9/11.
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On July 23 2011 02:36 saksy2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS. The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/ I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists. "afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans " This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp. Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything. You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism... Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror.... 1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them? 2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe? 3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me. This is a graph showing terrorist attacks in the European Union <- From wikipedia. You are wrong
We was talking deadly terror.
Ranstorp: "According to their figures Islamic terrorists didn't do a single deed in Europe in 2009. The year before we saw not one, and in 2007 there was two attacks. But the statistics does not show the attacks occurring in the UK."
"The report from Europol insists that all member countries perceive Islamic terrorism as the biggest threat to citizens."
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On July 23 2011 02:38 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:36 saksy2 wrote:On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS. The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/ I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists. "afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans " This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp. Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything. You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism... Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror.... 1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them? 2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe? 3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me. This is a graph showing terrorist attacks in the European Union <- From wikipedia. You are wrong Not saying that you're wrong but if you want to be taken seriously don't post wikipedia links as proof.
The numbers are from Europol. My point still stands.
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Soldiers have taken position in the center of Oslo.
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carloseloco your wrong about 2 things . in colombia its drug wars and another side of the planet. And yes islam do encourage killing if your family member betrays you . thats a fact.
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On July 23 2011 02:38 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:36 saksy2 wrote:On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS. The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/ I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists. "afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans " This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp. Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything. You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism... Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror.... 1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them? 2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe? 3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me. This is a graph showing terrorist attacks in the European Union <- From wikipedia. You are wrong Not saying that you're wrong but if you want to be taken seriously don't post wikipedia links as proof.
Still much more proof than was given for the counter. I wonder who can shout "Your Wrong" the loudest?
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On July 23 2011 02:39 Jago wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:37 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:32 gosuMalicE wrote:On July 23 2011 02:24 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:15 vyyye wrote:On July 23 2011 02:12 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 02:06 GoTuNk! wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Sqq wrote:
saying now the shooter on the island had a glock, not the reported automatic that CNN managed to say I don't get it. Isn't there a single armed cop on the island? When i went to Oslo the street cops werent armed i actually walked up and asked one and he said they keep there side arms locked in their patrol cars. I remember thinking at the time thats a really useless place to have your gun but just chalked it up to me being american and used to everyone being armed. If Norway is anything like Sweden people wouldn't be very happy if there was any weapon on an island strictly used for a children's summer camp. Prior to this incident at least. Weird how are you gonna guard anything without a gun? What are they suppose to yell please stop? I know they arent a big fan of guns over there. But shouldnt the cops and gaurds have weapons im mean just in case something like this happen? Cops yes, there should have been a (real) one with a gun. But who the hell thinks its a good idea to give a security guard a gun? those guys are usually roid-raging police academy dropouts who don't think things through/have behavioral disorders that don't let them be real police, so why should they get guns? Seriously a bad idea. Edi: Oh nvm you are american, makes sense now. Seriously a bad idea? I bet the poor people dead on the island wish some body had the horrible idea of having armed gaurds. Don't start you "guns would've kept you safe" bullshit in this thread now. Thank you.
Yes, please don't start pro gun/against gun in here... OF COURSE, after events, you can always say that X or Y may have prevented this. Guns won't prevent everything : USA for example has many gunshooting.
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