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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
July 22 2011 17:33 GMT
#741
On July 23 2011 02:30 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:29 PolSC2 wrote:
1826: The BBC's Jorn Madslien asks whether if the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway. Read his analysis piece: Oslo bomb attack: End of innocence?

-BBC

it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway


If this turns out to be true, this is a very very sad time, indeed.

Err, what does he mean by that?


I don't know anything at all about politics in Norway, or their stance on the war on terrorism, but judging from what I know happened in the US, it has a chance of security measures and awareness being heavily bolstered, throughout Norway.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
July 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#742
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.


I wouldn't be posting that...

Just sayin'.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
July 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#743
On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:13 Nagano wrote:
6.09pm: NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-17



Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS.

The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/


I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists.

"afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans "
This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp.

Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything.




You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism...
Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror....

1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them?
2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe?
3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me.
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Sillylord
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway8 Posts
July 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#744
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.

What the fuck is wrong with you. i dont like AP but NOBODY deserves a bomb in their face, unless they are actually mass murdering fuckheads.
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Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#745
On July 23 2011 02:29 PolSC2 wrote:
1826: The BBC's Jorn Madslien asks whether if the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway. Read his analysis piece: Oslo bomb attack: End of innocence?

-BBC

Show nested quote +
it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway


If this turns out to be true, this is a very very sad time, indeed.


It definitely is. Norway has never experienced anything quite like this.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
July 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#746
On July 23 2011 02:30 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:23 Nivoh wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:27 RieuK wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:20 Nivoh wrote:
I fail to see how this is different from stuff happening every single day all over the globe, other than the victim for once being the people of a rich country.


It is different. Norway has no grievances against other countries, well not that I know of. It would seem strange to attack a peaceful country.

Peaceful? We're involved in both Lybia and Afghanistan.

If Gaddafi is responsible he must have hired someone, radical groups don't really share his agenda anymore. But I bet he would have already gone public by now.


i don't think it has been gaddafi, it looks like a political thing. but if it would be gaddafi we in switzerland have to pay fucking attention. gaddafi certainly is capable of terrorism, he has proven that
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#747
On July 23 2011 02:29 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:28 Dattish wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:13 Nagano wrote:
6.09pm: NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-17



Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS.

The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/


I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists.

"afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans "
This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp.

Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything.


Really? the guys from Russia and the IRA is not pleased..


Dont forget about ETA

And the french FLNC (Corsica).
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#748
It's not if they're being victims from terror, but a matter of when. That's what they all say in here.

And we've caught and avoided the first 5 terror-attempts in Denmark. It'll happen here, it happened in Sweden and now in Norway whether it's connected or not.
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Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#749
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.


Get out.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#750
On July 23 2011 02:24 Detwiler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:15 vyyye wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:12 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:06 GoTuNk! wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:03 Sqq wrote:
saying now the shooter on the island had a glock, not the reported automatic that CNN managed to say


I don't get it. Isn't there a single armed cop on the island?


When i went to Oslo the street cops werent armed i actually walked up and asked one and he said they keep there side arms locked in their patrol cars. I remember thinking at the time thats a really useless place to have your gun but just chalked it up to me being american and used to everyone being armed.

If Norway is anything like Sweden people wouldn't be very happy if there was any weapon on an island strictly used for a children's summer camp. Prior to this incident at least.


Weird how are you gonna guard anything without a gun? What are they suppose to yell please stop? I know they arent a big fan of guns over there. But shouldnt the cops and gaurds have weapons im mean just in case something like this happen?

It's just a different approach to keeping the citizen safe. If you don't use guns(much), you don't force criminals to be armed to 'protect themselves'. Personally I like it more. The police can still use guns, but in day to day life, there are less shootings.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:36:53
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#751
"The rumor from Utøya now is that the shooter has said that there will be two more attacks tonight"

No source, see: just a rumor.

I seriously hope this doesn't happen. Sad day for Norwegians..

e. i guess this is related:

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
July 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#752
On July 23 2011 02:34 Wivyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:29 PolSC2 wrote:
1826: The BBC's Jorn Madslien asks whether if the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway. Read his analysis piece: Oslo bomb attack: End of innocence?

-BBC

it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway


If this turns out to be true, this is a very very sad time, indeed.


It definitely is. Norway has never experienced anything quite like this.


Welcome to a "secure" country, your daily lives will now be more difficult. D:
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
loladin
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway184 Posts
July 22 2011 17:36 GMT
#753
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.


The fuck is wrong with you? :|
When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
July 22 2011 17:36 GMT
#754
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.


You're totally right, killing off politicians is A-ok! They're not real people, nor do they have families and anyone who care about them, what waste of air they are, useless I tell you!

But the civillians on the other hand, they're something completly diffrent!
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
July 22 2011 17:36 GMT
#755
On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:13 Nagano wrote:
6.09pm: NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-17



Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS.

The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/


I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists.

"afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans "
This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp.

Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything.




You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism...
Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror....

1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them?
2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe?
3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me.


This is a graph showing terrorist attacks in the European Union <- From wikipedia. You are wrong
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:37:33
July 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#756
On July 23 2011 02:34 StatorFlux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:30 carloselcoco wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:26 StatorFlux wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:21 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:19 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:13 Nagano wrote:
6.09pm: NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-17



Omg over fucking cartoons the worst part is thats not particularly suprising. Ya know im all over inclusion and acceptance of all. But at some point we have to consider that not everyones point of veiw is equal and ok. I mean this is the 1st time this kinda thing has happened. So you know what fuck them i dont give a fuck how "offensive" these people think comics strips and cartoons are FUCK THEM. You dont get a pass for killing like this cause of you religion over CARTOONS.

The guy is said to be (ethnic) norwegian, + as others have said the bombings seem to be directed at a political party rather than norwegians in general. To me it seems very unlikely that this is islamic terror, afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans :/


I expect you know nothing about the connection between neo-nazis and radical islamists.

"afterall most terror in Europe is done by politically disstatisfied Europeans "
This is an outrageous lie, if we talk DEADLY terror then it's like 99,9% islamists. You can't compare apples and oranges. This statement was thoroughly debunked by Magnus Ranstorp.

Please don't speculate about this tragedy when you don't know anything.




You could have not been more retarded than that mate. You should be banned for clear racism...
Did you know Colombia has had terrorism for over 50 years and it has never been due to someone who is Islam or Muslim or from a radical sect of any religion? BTW, it is deadly terror....

1. I relayed FACTS from official Swedish government sources about deadly terrorism in Europe. Should I not trust them?
2. What the Colombia's lamentable problems have to do with Europe?
3. When was I racist? This is absurd, you are flinging dirt at me.


Admin,
He is clearly trolling :/

I was pointing out Colombia just to let you know as a reference that you can't be so racist as to blame the attack on Islams or Muslims or anyone affiliated with any religion. Why? Because there is no religion which encourages killing.
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:37:55
July 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#757
7 ppl killed 2 wounded from the bomb in oslo

police report on bbc

edit: also saying the shooter had an automatic weapon on Utoya.
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#758
On July 23 2011 02:32 gosuMalicE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:24 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:15 vyyye wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:12 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:06 GoTuNk! wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:03 Sqq wrote:
saying now the shooter on the island had a glock, not the reported automatic that CNN managed to say


I don't get it. Isn't there a single armed cop on the island?


When i went to Oslo the street cops werent armed i actually walked up and asked one and he said they keep there side arms locked in their patrol cars. I remember thinking at the time thats a really useless place to have your gun but just chalked it up to me being american and used to everyone being armed.

If Norway is anything like Sweden people wouldn't be very happy if there was any weapon on an island strictly used for a children's summer camp. Prior to this incident at least.


Weird how are you gonna guard anything without a gun? What are they suppose to yell please stop? I know they arent a big fan of guns over there. But shouldnt the cops and gaurds have weapons im mean just in case something like this happen?


Cops yes, there should have been a (real) one with a gun. But who the hell thinks its a good idea to give a security guard a gun? those guys are usually roid-raging police academy dropouts who don't think things through/have behavioral disorders that don't let them be real police, so why should they get guns? Seriously a bad idea.

Edi: Oh nvm you are american, makes sense now.


Seriously a bad idea? I bet the poor people dead on the island wish some body had the horrible idea of having armed gaurds.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
July 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#759
On July 23 2011 02:32 nador wrote:
Every sane person who lives in Norway knows the government and AP deserves a fucking bomb in their face.

The problem is killing civilians, who most likely don't even like the authoritarian shit government.


Go fuck yourself

User was temp banned for this post.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
July 22 2011 17:38 GMT
#760
Well, it's always bad when innocent civilians die.

But i hope this won't lead to another 9/11 terrorist hysteria.

We need to wait and see if this is politically related or this is some paid terrorist attack or some radical faction attack for religions motives. I'm guessing most chances are some paid terrorist attack with funding from Gaddafi, in who's case norway took a bad decision.
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