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Why do you think Mystery was depressed and suicidal? His whole life was about how manipulate girls with his corny magic tricks and peacocking. He had absolutely nothing else going for him.
The whole community is a joke filled with keyboard jockeys who just type wall of texts of theorycrafting what ifs and scamming seminars that is comparable to hiring an escort for the weekend, except you actually get laid. The difference ends there because once the seminar is over, you're back on your own. Hey good job you know automated routines that have absolutely nothing to do with your life, but oh wait approach anxiety creeping back again. But you spent a grand on a seminar. Where are your pua bros? Where's that coach of yours that pushed you into a set of 3 girls and you filing charmed the shit out of them because you did the "gangster or thug loving" routine? Oh yea they took your money and fled. I've never taken a seminar by the way.
I absolutely despise how this thread exists. You want to get girls? Have hobbies and do something you like. Workout and dress better to help boost confidence. Now here's the big secret to getting girls: You talk to them. gasp! You screwed up the approach? Fuck her. There's other fish. The problem is guys make this so much more complicated than it has to be. If youre thinking about what-ifs or how you would approach this situation, you're inside your head and not focusing on what's happening right in front of you. Like discodancer said, mating has been going on since the stone age. If cavemen had the same problems as us, we'd be extinct because we care more about our fragile ego. Of course it's not our fault. Want someone to blame? Blame media for stereotypes and their trendsetting for what is socially acceptable.
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This thread has become less of a "pickup girls - guide/brag" thread, and more of a wall-of-text thread. Sadface 
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On November 05 2011 06:05 Jesushooves wrote:This thread has become less of a "pickup girls - guide/brag" thread, and more of a wall-of-text thread. Sadface
Kind've what happens when everyone who doesn't like the way we do things comes in here to spew their pages of philosophical beliefs that claim we're terrible people. It honestly seems to me like that some people think its a bad thing to brag about your conquests with your buddies. That's the vibe I get from some of these people.
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On November 05 2011 04:55 discodancer wrote:
I kept thinking about 'pickup' and I realized that what squattin argues for on paper is not the essence of it. I read The Game a couple years ago (a friend sent me a link) and the concept was entirely different. I found literally a couple sentence where Mystery talked about working out and how easy it is for a guy to start looking healthy by doing that and tanning. He never actually concentrated on improving himself in general (like becoming well-educated, taking a comedy class, traveling around the world), all he worked on was his 'game', the way he communicated, opened and closed sets, caught attention. Everything was about using specific tools to make female interested, not becoming well-rounded to the extent where you don't even have to try anymore to get laid. And that's what squattin is now - his 'pickup' is nothing out of the ordinary. He might think it is but I feel like mainly due to him being antisocial and awkward before his PUA stint he makes it out to be what it's not.
If I want to look good and be charming and know how to dance just so that I can feel comfortable in every social setting - is it necessary to call me a PUA? Then why even use the term if it's virtually not any different from what every successful guy did since stone age?
Pickup back in 2005 is a bit different than pickup in 2011. A lot has changed. Your school of thought also depends on who you train with. Different instructors will value some things over others. I work on core fundamental skills. But I do focus on pickup as well. I work on both. I'm not just purely going to the gym and working out. I do in fact learn pickup structure and a lot of the technical aspects and I put in my hours on the weekend in the club. I spend more time on actual pure pickup than my hobbies (at least for now)
This is the typical breakdown of my week:
Gym 4-5 hours
Pickup (In Field) - 8 hours (Fri/Sat Night)
Pickup (homework/field reports) - 2 hours
Interning Pickup - 12 hours
Learning New Hobby (photography, improv, etc) - 5 hours
Career - 45 hours
On November 05 2011 06:01 matiK23 wrote:
Why do you think Mystery was depressed and suicidal? His whole life was about how manipulate girls with his corny magic tricks and peacocking. He had absolutely nothing else going for him.
The whole community is a joke filled with keyboard jockeys who just type wall of texts of theorycrafting what ifs and scamming seminars that is comparable to hiring an escort for the weekend, except you actually get laid. The difference ends there because once the seminar is over, you're back on your own. Hey good job you know automated routines that have absolutely nothing to do with your life, but oh wait approach anxiety creeping back again. But you spent a grand on a seminar. Where are your pua bros? Where's that coach of yours that pushed you into a set of 3 girls and you filing charmed the shit out of them because you did the "gangster or thug loving" routine? Oh yea they took your money and fled. I've never taken a seminar by the way.
I absolutely despise how this thread exists. You want to get girls? Have hobbies and do something you like. Workout and dress better to help boost confidence. Now here's the big secret to getting girls: You talk to them. gasp! You screwed up the approach? Fuck her. There's other fish. The problem is guys make this so much more complicated than it has to be. If youre thinking about what-ifs or how you would approach this situation, you're inside your head and not focusing on what's happening right in front of you. Like discodancer said, mating has been going on since the stone age. If cavemen had the same problems as us, we'd be extinct because we care more about our fragile ego. Of course it's not our fault. Want someone to blame? Blame media for stereotypes and their trendsetting for what is socially acceptable.
Picking up girls is just picking up girls. Doesn't necessarily make you happy or financially successful or all around great person. It all depends on what you focus on. Mystery is not a happy person. A lot of the industry is marketing and a lot of hype and bullshit because people want an easy fix pill. There is no easy fix. Why do you think people by stupid machines like the abs of steel and shake weight, and all the other exercise gimmicks? It boils down to hard work and putting in your time and effort. Pickup is one of those things that conceptually seem easy, but when you tell that keyboard jockey to go the the club and you point out a random girl for him to approach, guess what happens? He doesnt approach. Looks and hobbies will make pickup easier. BUT, you can still make a lot of mistakes.
Pauly D from Jersey Shore gets laid a lot. But he makes a lot of mistakes and the girls forgive him for that. But I have seen many instances where his mistakes cost him the lay. If he had the technical abilities of SINN, he would have pulled x1000 more.
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On November 05 2011 06:58 squattincassanova wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 04:55 discodancer wrote:
I kept thinking about 'pickup' and I realized that what squattin argues for on paper is not the essence of it. I read The Game a couple years ago (a friend sent me a link) and the concept was entirely different. I found literally a couple sentence where Mystery talked about working out and how easy it is for a guy to start looking healthy by doing that and tanning. He never actually concentrated on improving himself in general (like becoming well-educated, taking a comedy class, traveling around the world), all he worked on was his 'game', the way he communicated, opened and closed sets, caught attention. Everything was about using specific tools to make female interested, not becoming well-rounded to the extent where you don't even have to try anymore to get laid. And that's what squattin is now - his 'pickup' is nothing out of the ordinary. He might think it is but I feel like mainly due to him being antisocial and awkward before his PUA stint he makes it out to be what it's not.
If I want to look good and be charming and know how to dance just so that I can feel comfortable in every social setting - is it necessary to call me a PUA? Then why even use the term if it's virtually not any different from what every successful guy did since stone age? Pickup back in 2005 is a bit different than pickup in 2011. A lot has changed. Your school of thought also depends on who you train with. Different instructors will value some things over others. I work on core fundamental skills. But I do focus on pickup as well. I work on both. I'm not just purely going to the gym and working out. I do in fact learn pickup structure and a lot of the technical aspects and I put in my hours on the weekend in the club. I spend more time on actual pure pickup than my hobbies (at least for now) This is the typical breakdown of my week: Gym 4-5 hours Pickup (In Field) - 8 hours (Fri/Sat Night) Pickup (homework/field reports) - 2 hours Interning Pickup - 12 hours Learning New Hobby (photography, improv, etc) - 5 hours Career - 45 hours
Squattincasanova, I have this one very problematic thing in my mind. That schedules looked like to very much calculated down to the dot, 100% efficient.
Here is the schedule that I am trying to keep up
7 Hours of Working out
2 Hours of picking up
1 Hours of going on date(s)
4 Hours of hobby (writing, music, and games)
30 Hours of school
21 Hours of schoolworks
2 Hours of randoms
Last week, I followed this schedule to the utmost capability and happily completed 96% of the said schedule. Everything was going at a fantastic pace, life felt right. Then this week, something happened to my intestines so my energy was pretty low to do any anything extraordinary. My question here is that how do you tackle a sudden motivation loss?
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On November 05 2011 04:55 discodancer wrote:
If I want to look good and be charming and know how to dance just so that I can feel comfortable in every social setting - is it necessary to call me a PUA? Then why even use the term if it's virtually not any different from what every successful guy did since stone age?
I guess to me PUA/The community would be about anyone who has ever looked at their life with women, thought "Something has to change" and then to some extent or another looked at how one could improve, and go with that.Nobody is saying there is not a lot of bad things (especially from the past) of the community, and there are a lot of bad apples. That being said discarding the entirety of improving yourself socially\with girls is not something anyone should do in my opinion. If you really think that the only 2 things that matter is carreer\money, and looks, then you are pretty delusional.
Another thing is that a lot of the terms from the PUA society are things that are completely natural, but can easily sound weird if you want to twist them into being weird. I hate "PUA lingo", but lets take a "neg" as an example teasing\being playfully sarcastic or whatever is extremely common for pretty much anyone to do when they are flirting with a girl. Then you can look at it from an outsiders point of view who is trying to find bad things, and say "oh look, they tell you to insult the girl, and they call it a "neg, and now it suddenly sounds completely retarded even though its something that happens in the vast majority of girl to boy flirtatious interactions.
I have never used any sort of canned material or been conscious of using any sort of "PUA tactics". But thanks to the community, i guess, I have learnt a lot about confidence, not being afraid of being myself, realizing that girls are not higher 'status' and that girls who like me for me are extreme limited supply, so I do not have to let a girl completely run me over and treat me like trash as soon as I meet someone who likes me, because it might be 35 years till i get the next opportunity, and that it does not really matter if I like video games, or if I am not 6foot tall (I actually am though :p) or if I have a lot of money, as long as I am happy with who I am , so will 'they' be. And a lot of similar lessons to this. I have very little negative to say about the good parts of 'the communtiy'. Even though there undoubtedly are some negative sides, if you are able to separate the wheat from the chaff yourself, i think anyone who is new to this (especially\most definitely if they are not already confident with women) can a thing or two from it.
That being said you do not have to read about it specifically to have the same kinds of change of outlook. Take decafchicken as an example ((Note: I could be completely wrong here, as I don't know him personally, but from his posts here\in fitness, i am giving some guesstimations.)
He started out having regular (or less? or whatever) success with women, started working out, became fit and more confident, which now has lead to more success with women. And I am sure (and he might even agree) that unless he himself ties a very large portion of his sense of self\confidence to his improved physique, if he were to go back to the body\looks he had before, he would still see better results than he used to. And I am sure he is still himself now, maybe even more so than he used to be. ^_^
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There are too many definitions of pickup. The one I see is the ability to get a girl in bed from a cold approach.
Again, not everyone has to work on the same thing. People only need to work on what they lack. Ultimately we are here to get better with women. If it works for you, keep doing it. If it doesn't, stop. Don't be dogmatic, try stuff out, and adapt what works.
The reason why cold approach is king because its a great way to practice without any real life impact, you can wake up the next day and its as if nothing happened. Its like dying in a video game and pressing reset button. Learning pickup is about failing over and over again and then learning from your mistakes. You can't do that at work or through your social circle because there are consequences.
Everyone who harps on "tricks, tactics, routines, gimmicks" its just a stepping stone to core confidence. Mystery does NOT use routines anymore in 2011. When you tell someone completely socially retarded to go talk to a girl at a club, its HARD. You cant just tell him to open his mouth because nothing will come out. Routine will give him a temporary crutch just practicing opening his mouth. But 3 years later, he shouldn't be using routines because hes a different person and a hopefully got more core competencies in social dynamics.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2011 06:01 matiK23 wrote:
Why do you think Mystery was depressed and suicidal? His whole life was about how manipulate girls with his corny magic tricks and peacocking. He had absolutely nothing else going for him.
The whole community is a joke filled with keyboard jockeys who just type wall of texts of theorycrafting what ifs and scamming seminars that is comparable to hiring an escort for the weekend, except you actually get laid. The difference ends there because once the seminar is over, you're back on your own. Hey good job you know automated routines that have absolutely nothing to do with your life, but oh wait approach anxiety creeping back again. But you spent a grand on a seminar. Where are your pua bros? Where's that coach of yours that pushed you into a set of 3 girls and you filing charmed the shit out of them because you did the "gangster or thug loving" routine? Oh yea they took your money and fled. I've never taken a seminar by the way.
I absolutely despise how this thread exists. You want to get girls? Have hobbies and do something you like. Workout and dress better to help boost confidence. Now here's the big secret to getting girls: You talk to them. gasp! You screwed up the approach? Fuck her. There's other fish. The problem is guys make this so much more complicated than it has to be. If youre thinking about what-ifs or how you would approach this situation, you're inside your head and not focusing on what's happening right in front of you. Like discodancer said, mating has been going on since the stone age. If cavemen had the same problems as us, we'd be extinct because we care more about our fragile ego. Of course it's not our fault. Want someone to blame? Blame media for stereotypes and their trendsetting for what is socially acceptable. Picking up girls is just picking up girls. Doesn't necessarily make you happy or financially successful or all around great person. It all depends on what you focus on. Mystery is not a happy person. A lot of the industry is marketing and a lot of hype and bullshit because people want an easy fix pill. There is no easy fix. Why do you think people by stupid machines like the abs of steel and shake weight, and all the other exercise gimmicks? It boils down to hard work and putting in your time and effort. Pickup is one of those things that conceptually seem easy, but when you tell that keyboard jockey to go the the club and you point out a random girl for him to approach, guess what happens? He doesnt approach. Looks and hobbies will make pickup easier. BUT, you can still make a lot of mistakes. Pauly D from Jersey Shore gets laid a lot. But he makes a lot of mistakes and the girls forgive him for that. But I have seen many instances where his mistakes cost him the lay. If he had the technical abilities of SINN, he would have pulled x1000 more.
Well that was pretty much my point. Just shows that PUA lifestyle isn't all glitz and glamour. Sacrificing your happiness for the conquest of getting any girl is just not worth it. I believe that being happy is your primary objective and the girls will follow, whether that is finding passion in something or just choosing to be plain happy.
Pauly D is the man. Even without actual PUA training, he is pretty smooth. Wanna know his secret? Courage and saying things without over-analyzing little shit.
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[B]On November 05 2011 08:23 matiK23 wrote:
Well that was pretty much my point. Just shows that PUA lifestyle isn't all glitz and glamour. Sacrificing your happiness for the conquest of getting any girl is just not worth it. I believe that being happy is your primary objective and the girls will follow, whether that is finding passion in something or just choosing to be plain happy.
Pauly D is the man. Even without actual PUA training, he is pretty smooth. Wanna know his secret? Courage and saying things without over-analyzing little shit.
Some people sacrifice their life for science. Some sacrifice their life for their kids. Some sacrifice their lives for peace or to make money. Its really not up to you to decide what people should do. Mystery is one guy.... and he had to figure a lot of this pickup shit out himself. So of course his journey was a lot of trial and error and it wasn't perfect. Most people are lame in general. With or without pickup, they wont be happy. 50% divorce rate, bad credit rating, kids getting into trouble. Most people will fail and are unhappy, its really independent of pickup.
Pauly D is decent because hes confidence but he still makes a lot of newbie mistakes. One episode, he takes token resistance for real resistance. A real PUA would have seen that shit and turned it around.
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So I've studied in the past and I've had some experience (all be it VERY little) with pick-up and what I took away from it when I decided to leave the scene was that I wanted to improve myself first. The kinda thing where you can't really get the best out of anything until you're completely confident and comfortable with who you are. So I feel like I can handle re-entering the field despite being in school still among other things. The first step is always the hardest, though. I often find myself critiquing my choices and my actions. I end regretting not talking to even one random stranger every day and striking up good conversation with him/her. One of my greatest fears is that since I'm a bad conversationalist, I won't be able to come up with a good opener for the conversation and IF I can think of one and have the courage to actually try to talk to someone, I'm afraid that I won't be able to progress beyond the first bit. So I guess my question is, what are some things I can do to work on my conversation skills and to make sure I don't come off as some sort of creeper/weirdo? I think I'm attractive and I've worked hard to gain more confidence in myself over the past few years. I just need a little help starting off the conversations and I should be able to make some headway in meeting not just girls, but making new friends as well.
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Fucking lost a good one tonight. She wanted to make everything more serious than I was willing to. Shame, she had some class and I really liked having her around. Why do women always want more than I'm willing to give
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On November 05 2011 06:01 matiK23 wrote:
Why do you think Mystery was depressed and suicidal? His whole life was about how manipulate girls with his corny magic tricks and peacocking. He had absolutely nothing else going for him.
The whole community is a joke filled with keyboard jockeys who just type wall of texts of theorycrafting what ifs and scamming seminars that is comparable to hiring an escort for the weekend, except you actually get laid. The difference ends there because once the seminar is over, you're back on your own. Hey good job you know automated routines that have absolutely nothing to do with your life, but oh wait approach anxiety creeping back again. But you spent a grand on a seminar. Where are your pua bros? Where's that coach of yours that pushed you into a set of 3 girls and you filing charmed the shit out of them because you did the "gangster or thug loving" routine? Oh yea they took your money and fled. I've never taken a seminar by the way.
I absolutely despise how this thread exists. You want to get girls? Have hobbies and do something you like. Workout and dress better to help boost confidence. Now here's the big secret to getting girls: You talk to them. gasp! You screwed up the approach? Fuck her. There's other fish. The problem is guys make this so much more complicated than it has to be. If youre thinking about what-ifs or how you would approach this situation, you're inside your head and not focusing on what's happening right in front of you. Like discodancer said, mating has been going on since the stone age. If cavemen had the same problems as us, we'd be extinct because we care more about our fragile ego. Of course it's not our fault. Want someone to blame? Blame media for stereotypes and their trendsetting for what is socially acceptable.
you're wrong, when you get the best at something and can have anything you want with the snap of your fingers, whats the point.
Mystery only refined the game so that he would never get rejected ( and he never really does), part of his depression problems also stem from the fact that he got so much ass there was nothing special he really saw in girls anymore. And that is quite depressing for anyone to live with, one of his key concepts of the game is that you want to work for something to feel that it has value, and mystery after he mastered the game didn't have to work for women.
Also you're ignorant if you think getting girls relies on "hobbies". Or else everyone would get the mate they desired.
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On November 05 2011 08:23 matiK23 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2011 06:01 matiK23 wrote:
Why do you think Mystery was depressed and suicidal? His whole life was about how manipulate girls with his corny magic tricks and peacocking. He had absolutely nothing else going for him.
The whole community is a joke filled with keyboard jockeys who just type wall of texts of theorycrafting what ifs and scamming seminars that is comparable to hiring an escort for the weekend, except you actually get laid. The difference ends there because once the seminar is over, you're back on your own. Hey good job you know automated routines that have absolutely nothing to do with your life, but oh wait approach anxiety creeping back again. But you spent a grand on a seminar. Where are your pua bros? Where's that coach of yours that pushed you into a set of 3 girls and you filing charmed the shit out of them because you did the "gangster or thug loving" routine? Oh yea they took your money and fled. I've never taken a seminar by the way.
I absolutely despise how this thread exists. You want to get girls? Have hobbies and do something you like. Workout and dress better to help boost confidence. Now here's the big secret to getting girls: You talk to them. gasp! You screwed up the approach? Fuck her. There's other fish. The problem is guys make this so much more complicated than it has to be. If youre thinking about what-ifs or how you would approach this situation, you're inside your head and not focusing on what's happening right in front of you. Like discodancer said, mating has been going on since the stone age. If cavemen had the same problems as us, we'd be extinct because we care more about our fragile ego. Of course it's not our fault. Want someone to blame? Blame media for stereotypes and their trendsetting for what is socially acceptable. Picking up girls is just picking up girls. Doesn't necessarily make you happy or financially successful or all around great person. It all depends on what you focus on. Mystery is not a happy person. A lot of the industry is marketing and a lot of hype and bullshit because people want an easy fix pill. There is no easy fix. Why do you think people by stupid machines like the abs of steel and shake weight, and all the other exercise gimmicks? It boils down to hard work and putting in your time and effort. Pickup is one of those things that conceptually seem easy, but when you tell that keyboard jockey to go the the club and you point out a random girl for him to approach, guess what happens? He doesnt approach. Looks and hobbies will make pickup easier. BUT, you can still make a lot of mistakes. Pauly D from Jersey Shore gets laid a lot. But he makes a lot of mistakes and the girls forgive him for that. But I have seen many instances where his mistakes cost him the lay. If he had the technical abilities of SINN, he would have pulled x1000 more.
Well that was pretty much my point. Just shows that PUA lifestyle isn't all glitz and glamour. Sacrificing your happiness for the conquest of getting any girl is just not worth it. I believe that being happy is your primary objective and the girls will follow, whether that is finding passion in something or just choosing to be plain happy.
Pauly D is the man. Even without actual PUA training, he is pretty smooth. Wanna know his secret? Courage and saying things without over-analyzing little shit.
wrong again, one of the MAIN things that PUA teaches no matter who it is, Mystery, Style, De angelo etc is that confidence is king. You just said Pauly D gets women because he's confident, some men don't have this and need it to be taught to them. Besides that Pauly D is also tan, good looking facial features, and buff and probably a 10 to a lot of girls. Confidence + 10 = you get any ass. Not to mention, being famous increases your value to girls astronomically so you can't compare Pauly D to an average joe and even your reasoning seems to support the concepts of PUA.
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On November 03 2011 11:46 David451 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 11:42 David451 wrote:
Lay Report:
We met over some Italian food. I just acted like myself and shared my interests like a normal person. She'd been going on dates with lots of guys with way more game than me. Guys more traveled, funnier, confident, better at conversation, etc. I felt like our first date was really awkward. Didn't matter, she liked me anyway. She paid for my dinner. I don't know why she did, and I really don't care. I've never been more comfortable in a relationship. + Show Spoiler +
We're getting married next year.
if they had more game than you then they would be the ones with her.
and congrats.
The only people who hate pua are the naturals, some guys just need extra help.
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I've never taken any part in the PUA community and after reading The Game I don't want to either (for instance, the boyfriend buster pattern is an abomination toward my moral standard). Nevertheless, that doesn't change the fact that it works and that it has helped me a shit ton in understanding how women work and how I should think when hitting on a girl.
There are people who just know how to do it, and then there's people like me who need some pointers. So I like that there are people teaching this stuff, even if they're just doing it for the money, DHV or similar 
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If going to be an "asshole" to girls seems like a problem to anybody because it isn't "nice". Then look at this way, in some other part of whatever city/town/village you current live in, there is always another girl keeping a guy on her hook, acting in a cute fashion for him to buy anything that she desires. Or if you want to look at it through an extreme eye, there are many many women who married a filthy rich fella and divorced him afterward and gaining a huge deal of wealth after the settlement. What "Pickup Artistry" does to women is NOTHING comparable to lose everything that you have worked in a lifetime for in a flash of pen marks on the divorce paper. The artists takes no materialistic item(s) from the girl and only satisfy their thirst in the bedroom in a quick and painless style.
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You shouldn't do PUA just because women exploit men as much as men exploit women. You should do it because you want to get better in an area of you life that you've always felt was lacking. Doing something for such a negative reason always creates more problems than it solves.
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This thread gets derailed so often by "PUA? dumbest thing I've ever heard" and the counter argument "No way, man." It's quite silly, actually.
Anyways, back to the point I wanted to make from a few pages back.
The advice seen from "non-pua's" is to be yourself. This is, quite simply, such a bad way to state the "advice" no wonder it causes such tension in this thread. Being your current self will do nothing to get you where you want to go. I believe it was Einstein or Newton who said why would you expect different results when you repeat the same thing? This goes for all aspects of life, not just experiments or the scientific field. The problem is that, quite simply, most people are lacking in their self. They won't admit their wrongs, and rather drift through life without becoming their best.
And that is how the advice should be phrased: Be your best self. That is advice you need to give to people when they ask this question. The problem is most people are FAR from being their best self. You could probably be a little bit fitter. You could probably dress a little bit better. You could probably devote a little more time to your passion. You could probably be a little more sociable. They simply need to develop themselves; in the strong areas but especially the weak areas. The absolutely beautiful thing about this advice is this: Everybody has a different idea of their best.
You see, I might decide my best includes being at peak physical form. Another person might decide their best might be creating art worthy of a museum, with fitness secondary. While regardless both are necessary, the flexibility allowed by "be your best self" is the best aspect of it. Everyone has different passions, interests, or attractions. Being your best self allows you to develop these passions while requiring the growth of your weak areas.
For example. I have a friend who loves video games. He claims that it is really the only thing he really has a passion for actually. Yet I don't see him trying new things (neglecting other ares of his life completely. That isn't being your best), and for a "passion" you think he would do his best to invest in it. Perhaps start streaming. Maybe try and be a beta tester as a precursor to future career options. He should be following in the steps of casting like Day9, competitive gaming like HuK, or perhaps work on developing the games we all love. But what does he do? Sits down and plays them. That's it. For a "passion", you'd think somebody would invest a little bit more time in it than just that.
And that is the root of what is wrong with most people "just being themselves." They aren't developed enough. Hell, they barely even really put enough (worthwhile) time into their passion. And for those people that do, they neglect other areas of life. They either don't try it, or won't admit to themselves that it is a problem. The first step to being the best you? Admitting what is wrong, where you are weak at, and not making any more excuses. Most people stunt their own growth as a person by saying "Oh, that's good enough, I guess. Fuck that, you'll know it is good enough when that "I guess" is lost and that nagging feeling in your mind isn't there at all.
In my opinion, those who look at PUA more as a game/women thing are mainly lacking in that: women and game. Those who look at as self improvement aren't as lacking in those areas as they are others. Perhaps the former places more importance in women and game, while those who look at is the latter place more important on themselves. I'm not too sure, just some observations I've made from keyboard'n around threads/seddit/blogs.
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PASSION. I think this isn't the first time I hear about improving yourself by devoting more time to your "passion". I also recall a similar topic from tv series etc.
For me this is said so lightly, it's funny that you talk about passion HERE because we are on a forum where for so many members, this "passion" is actually playing starcraft and most of them aren't getting any money or "success" or whatsoever out of it. But yeah, so many of them they like it more than anything else.
To be honest I think that when somebody talks about exercising your "passions", they talk about the "good" ones, the ones at which you are skillful and you can actually get socializing out of it. For example, photography, playing the gitar or some other stuff that girls like.
To the vast majority of people, telling them "hey, if you devote more time to your passion you can actually be happier and more successful in life in general" sounds like WOW YOU SO GENIUS (irony)... sounds like going to a poor guy in the street "hey, we have studied about your problem and we have concluded that... you need more money! BTW here's the bill for the research, thank you"
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I have a day 2 tonight with a cute filipino girl who I met at an ex coworkers birthday party. Will report back. Most likely will not get laid because shes Asian and shy.
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