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One more "fuck the police" from page 8 and onward is going to have an all expense paid weekend to E-Disneyland. It adds nothing to the discussion and as such please refrain from making such posts in this topic and the boards in general.
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
May 29 2011 16:52 GMT
#321
Is it illegal to dance outside the memorial? Should get a dance group going and dance to "Safety Dance" Is that considered as a protest, if all they do is dancing?
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 16:59:58
May 29 2011 16:56 GMT
#322
On May 30 2011 01:10 TheFrankOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 01:05 WhiteDog wrote:
On May 30 2011 00:55 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On May 30 2011 00:52 WhiteDog wrote:
Yeah I agree that me thinking that and me being French are connected since my country is... well.
But I'm pretty sure we would not be talking about those random dancers if they would not have been arrested. This prove that this was the best way to publicize their causes.

I have no issues with the demonstration and I have no issues with how the police handled it.

I'm not actually opposed of the act of dancing to gather attention and get a movement going. I'm opposed to the judgemental attitude some people have here regarding how the police handled it.

Yeah I understood that, but I was just commenting your last sentence about "who do you vote for".
As for the cops, I think you live in a country where you don't see many cops face to face in difficult situation. You got to control their rights tightly or they can really turn out to "handle" thing in ridiculously violent manner. I think that's why many think it was excessive to slam this guy to the ground, it's not the act in itself, but the fact that the cops have the right to do it on a bunch of guy that were only dancing.
I have been in various situation with cops and I got slammed down myself for stupid reasons because where I live, cops like to slam young guys during the night.



No one was treated too harshly in those videos, the guy who was slammed was resisting arrest by trying to walk away when told to go down by the officer. He got what he deserved, the only person in the whole video I feel sorry for was the protester who got half dragged away by someone else only to be put down by the police. He was not trying to resist arrest, some moron tried to pull him away.

Police can definitely get out of hand themselves, there are many fantastic examples in America of just that, this wazs not one of them, I don't think most of them are caught on camera.


A police officer NEVER knows how someone will react to having handcuffs put on them. Even if they appear to be willingly surrendering, it could be a trap to lure them in close and go for a quick knife-stabbing. The rule is to NEVER make assumptions and to use as much force as necessary to incapacitate them and get the handcuffs on.

No matter what the act, your suspicions, your built-in stereotypes, whatever; NEVER assume that the person is willingly surrendering and that they will comply when you start to put on handcuffs.

It's called common-sense, but most people interpret it as police brutality. Hence a contributing factor to this common, misinformed 'fuck the police' mentality in youth today.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 29 2011 17:02 GMT
#323
On May 30 2011 01:52 euroboy wrote:
Is it illegal to dance outside the memorial? Should get a dance group going and dance to "Safety Dance" Is that considered as a protest, if all they do is dancing?


The more general term to use would be 'demonstration'. A protest is just a type of demonstration, as is the opposite of a protest, an approval demonstration.

You need a permit for that.
aCePikNik
Profile Joined May 2011
United States69 Posts
May 29 2011 17:02 GMT
#324
On May 30 2011 01:45 MiniRoman wrote:
I blame youtube for this kinda shit. As I'm sure someone else already said: they only did it BECAUSE they would get arrested.

Adam should really vs "the man" and go off to the alaskan wilderness. Anything short of that is just some punk ass kid trying to become famous while sucking the tit of society.


Your post makes me laugh. Without people like Adam the government would be doing whatever they want with the media. People need to speak out, be rebellious and test the boundaries of the law so that the general public that keep an eye on the media have the knowledge of what is illegal and what is legal. Anyone could just decide to dance for any reason to dance while going through there. And have no awareness of it being illegal. Let alone illegal to record in there, if you don't seem to recall watching the end of the video if you even have.

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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 29 2011 17:04 GMT
#325
On May 30 2011 02:02 aCePikNik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 01:45 MiniRoman wrote:
I blame youtube for this kinda shit. As I'm sure someone else already said: they only did it BECAUSE they would get arrested.

Adam should really vs "the man" and go off to the alaskan wilderness. Anything short of that is just some punk ass kid trying to become famous while sucking the tit of society.


Your post makes me laugh. Without people like Adam the government would be doing whatever they want with the media. People need to speak out, be rebellious and test the boundaries of the law so that the general public that keep an eye on the media have the knowledge of what is illegal and what is legal. Anyone could just decide to dance for any reason to dance while going through there. And have no awareness of it being illegal. Let alone illegal to record in there, if you don't seem to recall watching the end of the video if you even have.



Ditto. Adam isn't doing this to change the world, he is doing it for publicity. If he really cared about rights he would pick one that mattered. This one does not.
Parnass
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany145 Posts
May 29 2011 17:06 GMT
#326
On May 30 2011 02:04 On_Slaught wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2011 02:02 aCePikNik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 01:45 MiniRoman wrote:
I blame youtube for this kinda shit. As I'm sure someone else already said: they only did it BECAUSE they would get arrested.

Adam should really vs "the man" and go off to the alaskan wilderness. Anything short of that is just some punk ass kid trying to become famous while sucking the tit of society.


Your post makes me laugh. Without people like Adam the government would be doing whatever they want with the media. People need to speak out, be rebellious and test the boundaries of the law so that the general public that keep an eye on the media have the knowledge of what is illegal and what is legal. Anyone could just decide to dance for any reason to dance while going through there. And have no awareness of it being illegal. Let alone illegal to record in there, if you don't seem to recall watching the end of the video if you even have.



Ditto. Adam isn't doing this to change the world, he is doing it for publicity. If he really cared about rights he would pick one that mattered. This one does not.


who are you to decide what matters? this is something he cares about and you judging that is quite pathetic. If you feel that way why don't you go devote your life to curing aids or hunger relief. See how stupid that sounds?
aCePikNik
Profile Joined May 2011
United States69 Posts
May 29 2011 17:09 GMT
#327
On May 30 2011 02:04 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:02 aCePikNik wrote:
On May 30 2011 01:45 MiniRoman wrote:
I blame youtube for this kinda shit. As I'm sure someone else already said: they only did it BECAUSE they would get arrested.

Adam should really vs "the man" and go off to the alaskan wilderness. Anything short of that is just some punk ass kid trying to become famous while sucking the tit of society.


Your post makes me laugh. Without people like Adam the government would be doing whatever they want with the media. People need to speak out, be rebellious and test the boundaries of the law so that the general public that keep an eye on the media have the knowledge of what is illegal and what is legal. Anyone could just decide to dance for any reason to dance while going through there. And have no awareness of it being illegal. Let alone illegal to record in there, if you don't seem to recall watching the end of the video if you even have.



Ditto. Adam isn't doing this to change the world, he is doing it for publicity. If he really cared about rights he would pick one that mattered. This one does not.


You really are missing the point. This isn't about Adam. Adam isn't doing this for himself. He brings people on his show all of the time, and doesn't advertise the shit out of himself in any way. You don't see him fucking yelling out his website, he is only obeying the law and trying to bring on conformity and show that the government can't do whatever they so please to do as they are in this case. The video is showcasing the ridiculous random laws in this country (America) and as an American it makes me happy to see a video like this with publicity of the VIDEO and not Adam, which may educate some people and light a flame under their asses to see that this country is falling apart and electing Obama again isn't going to do a god damn thing.
<3 Sheth <3
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:11:49
May 29 2011 17:10 GMT
#328
Adam isn't changing the world, he is just trolling people in real life. This not only justifies the police actions, but it makes all the talk about how he is a hero of justice, comprable to Rosa Parks, and he is fighting the man absurd. There are people working every single day to change laws legally. There are groups trying to ban harmful substances and protect workers rights, etc. All this does is detract from the people actually making a difference by making people think fools like this are actually helping the cause.

Also, statements seen here and on the youtube page saying shit like "we can't dance at a memorical, hence the state is falling apart/police state/nazis etc" is fucking bullshit and fallacious.

TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:20:08
May 29 2011 17:12 GMT
#329
The people 'dancing' in the video shouldn't have been so moronic. Just because you want to do something "really really bad" doesn't mean you should not listen to a police officer. Stupid people got what they deserve.

I can understand 'fighting' for your rights as a citizen, but it's completely not worth it if you are just going to do something as stupid as dancing.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 29 2011 17:20 GMT
#330
Such a huge injustice... No dancing at TJ's memorial. What's next?

I can see the slippery slope already.

It starts with TJ's dance party being canceled. Next up, no dancing at Lincoln's. After that, no dancing at the Eisenhower Memorial. After that, no dancing at the FDR Memorial. And after that? You better fucking believe it, no dancing at the MLK Jr. Memorial. Then, in a double header, no dancing at the Holocaust Memorial or the Teddy Roosevelt Memorial passed on the same day. Oh, and you can definitely see where this is going, no dancing at the United States Navy Memorial. And before you know it? Mussolini is raised from the dead and we invade Europe.

Fucking tragic.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2011 17:25 GMT
#331
I don't get it. The court and judge ruled it illegal, why are they doing it and why are they surprised that they got arrested for specifically ignoring what is case law?

Am I using that right, case law?
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PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
May 29 2011 17:33 GMT
#332
fact of the matter, this civil disobedience thing is bullshit. People dancing or swaying near a statue holds no significance, it does not harm anyone. The fact it's illegal is bullshit. in Washington state, it is ILLEGAL for a woman to have SEX even if married. Under no circumstance can a woman in Washington state ever have sex.

Technically, any woman above the age of 18 is a criminal in Washington state. how's that?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:36:17
May 29 2011 17:35 GMT
#333
On May 30 2011 02:33 PlaGuE_R wrote:
fact of the matter, this civil disobedience thing is bullshit. People dancing or swaying near a statue holds no significance, it does not harm anyone. The fact it's illegal is bullshit. in Washington state, it is ILLEGAL for a woman to have SEX even if married. Under no circumstance can a woman in Washington state ever have sex.

Technically, any woman above the age of 18 is a criminal in Washington state. how's that?


You got a source for that? That makes no sense and I am very skeptic of your claim because essentially what you're saying is that no one can be born in Washington state if the law was upheld.
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PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
May 29 2011 17:39 GMT
#334
On May 30 2011 02:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:33 PlaGuE_R wrote:
fact of the matter, this civil disobedience thing is bullshit. People dancing or swaying near a statue holds no significance, it does not harm anyone. The fact it's illegal is bullshit. in Washington state, it is ILLEGAL for a woman to have SEX even if married. Under no circumstance can a woman in Washington state ever have sex.

Technically, any woman above the age of 18 is a criminal in Washington state. how's that?


You got a source for that? That makes no sense and I am very skeptic of your claim because essentially what you're saying is that no one can be born in Washington state if the law was upheld.


just google it, America has hundreds of ridiculous and retarded laws.
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
May 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#335
Weird thread....

Of course its not illegal to dance. You are suggesting they were dancing there.

But where they actually dancing? I think its even rhetorical to ask that.... ofc course they were not dance. But holding an lame excuse to make it "legal" what there were doing? Kinda lame when you use that to scream for attention.
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Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:41:42
May 29 2011 17:41 GMT
#336
On May 30 2011 02:04 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:02 aCePikNik wrote:
On May 30 2011 01:45 MiniRoman wrote:
I blame youtube for this kinda shit. As I'm sure someone else already said: they only did it BECAUSE they would get arrested.

Adam should really vs "the man" and go off to the alaskan wilderness. Anything short of that is just some punk ass kid trying to become famous while sucking the tit of society.


Your post makes me laugh. Without people like Adam the government would be doing whatever they want with the media. People need to speak out, be rebellious and test the boundaries of the law so that the general public that keep an eye on the media have the knowledge of what is illegal and what is legal. Anyone could just decide to dance for any reason to dance while going through there. And have no awareness of it being illegal. Let alone illegal to record in there, if you don't seem to recall watching the end of the video if you even have.



Ditto. Adam isn't doing this to change the world, he is doing it for publicity. If he really cared about rights he would pick one that mattered. This one does not.


Everyone bow your heads to the authority on which "rights" are ones that matter. For he speaks for all of us.

10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2011 17:43 GMT
#337
On May 30 2011 02:39 PlaGuE_R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 30 2011 02:33 PlaGuE_R wrote:
fact of the matter, this civil disobedience thing is bullshit. People dancing or swaying near a statue holds no significance, it does not harm anyone. The fact it's illegal is bullshit. in Washington state, it is ILLEGAL for a woman to have SEX even if married. Under no circumstance can a woman in Washington state ever have sex.

Technically, any woman above the age of 18 is a criminal in Washington state. how's that?


You got a source for that? That makes no sense and I am very skeptic of your claim because essentially what you're saying is that no one can be born in Washington state if the law was upheld.


just google it, America has hundreds of ridiculous and retarded laws.


Just did, nothing came up but Adultery.
Care to post a source otherwise you're just creating sensationalism.
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Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
May 29 2011 17:43 GMT
#338
On May 30 2011 02:20 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Such a huge injustice... No dancing at TJ's memorial. What's next?

I can see the slippery slope already.

It starts with TJ's dance party being canceled. Next up, no dancing at Lincoln's. After that, no dancing at the Eisenhower Memorial. After that, no dancing at the FDR Memorial. And after that? You better fucking believe it, no dancing at the MLK Jr. Memorial. Then, in a double header, no dancing at the Holocaust Memorial or the Teddy Roosevelt Memorial passed on the same day. Oh, and you can definitely see where this is going, no dancing at the United States Navy Memorial. And before you know it? Mussolini is raised from the dead and we invade Europe.

Fucking tragic.


Lol that sounds like a lifted bit from Stephen Colbert, you should email him that
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
May 29 2011 17:46 GMT
#339
On May 30 2011 02:40 Mutaahh wrote:
Weird thread....

Of course its not illegal to dance. You are suggesting they were dancing there.

But where they actually dancing? I think its even rhetorical to ask that.... ofc course they were not dance. But holding an lame excuse to make it "legal" what there were doing? Kinda lame when you use that to scream for attention.


Hm.

I think I'm willing to say that yeah, they were dancing there. At first anyway.

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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:48:56
May 29 2011 17:47 GMT
#340
On May 30 2011 02:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:33 PlaGuE_R wrote:
fact of the matter, this civil disobedience thing is bullshit. People dancing or swaying near a statue holds no significance, it does not harm anyone. The fact it's illegal is bullshit. in Washington state, it is ILLEGAL for a woman to have SEX even if married. Under no circumstance can a woman in Washington state ever have sex.

Technically, any woman above the age of 18 is a criminal in Washington state. how's that?


You got a source for that? That makes no sense and I am very skeptic of your claim because essentially what you're saying is that no one can be born in Washington state if the law was upheld.


many laws are not upheld. They are old, outdated, and never kept up with.

For instance, in the state of Virginia, the only legal way to have any form of sexual contact between a male and a female is in missionary position between 2 married people on the bed, under the covers, with the lights out. This means and type of oral sex, anal, any position beyond missionary, etc... is punishable by law. If this was upheld, almost everyone i know would be thrown in jail.

There are stupid laws that are often forgotten and rarely used.
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