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-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:53:20
May 24 2011 02:04 GMT
#1
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.

izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
May 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#2
Tester so manly....Fucking yes..
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
May 24 2011 03:10 GMT
#3
Why would you make the main picture of him crying? wow........

Sign me up
CJ.sAviOr : oGsjookTo : mTwDIMAGA
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
May 24 2011 03:16 GMT
#4
hm..I'm not sure if the fanclub should be 'Tester' fanclub when he mentioned that he hates the name.
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 24 2011 03:22 GMT
#5
On May 24 2011 12:16 JunkkaGom wrote:
hm..I'm not sure if the fanclub should be 'Tester' fanclub when he mentioned that he hates the name.


I agree with this. I vote it gets renamed.

And I agree with the poster above John, that's a really bad picture to banner a fanclub with. Have one where Ki Soo looks like a boss, not where he's crying. =/

I still have a soft spot for Ki Soo, I'll sign up when it's got a different name and banner. xD
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 24 2011 03:47 GMT
#6
Well no one calls him Trickster/Ki Soo...
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#7
Wait, he said that he hated the name, "Tester"? Since when? =O
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 04:21:28
May 24 2011 04:02 GMT
#8
On May 24 2011 12:10 SweetAs wrote:
Why would you make the main picture of him crying? wow........

Sign me up


Lol. Tester's been in a slump, and he's said himself he's been very disappointed in his play so I thought that picture was fitting. I was planning on updating the main picture after he wins the GSL Super Tourny. Updated though.

On May 24 2011 12:16 JunkkaGom wrote:
hm..I'm not sure if the fanclub should be 'Tester' fanclub when he mentioned that he hates the name.


I thought it would be best to start the fanclub off named as Tester, as that's what people are most familiar with. But i'm completely fine with changing it. What do you think would be more fitting, TSL_Trickster or Ki Soo?

On May 24 2011 12:22 Sarang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 12:16 JunkkaGom wrote:
hm..I'm not sure if the fanclub should be 'Tester' fanclub when he mentioned that he hates the name.


I agree with this. I vote it gets renamed.

And I agree with the poster above John, that's a really bad picture to banner a fanclub with. Have one where Ki Soo looks like a boss, not where he's crying. =/

I still have a soft spot for Ki Soo, I'll sign up when it's got a different name and banner. xD


A banner and more will be made soon. I just wanted to get it up before his match on the 25th to show some support.
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
May 24 2011 04:14 GMT
#9
Sign me up, whatever the name of the thread is!!!

Despite his lack of achievements past beta, I always love seeing him win :D
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 24 2011 04:15 GMT
#10
We believe in you Ki Soo!!!!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
May 24 2011 04:16 GMT
#11
Sign me up!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
May 24 2011 04:26 GMT
#12
sign me up. i hope he shapes up but I think he is a solid protoss
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
xAzu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada17 Posts
May 24 2011 04:32 GMT
#13
Sign me up please (:
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
May 24 2011 04:35 GMT
#14
I don't know why he likes Trickster and why he hates Tester... Tester is a baller name
CJ.sAviOr : oGsjookTo : mTwDIMAGA
Incursus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
May 24 2011 04:55 GMT
#15
Totally a Tester fan, have been for a while now. He's a nerdballer.
Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice...appears under your feet.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
May 24 2011 04:56 GMT
#16
sign me up. ily trickster!
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
May 24 2011 05:16 GMT
#17
Screw you sSks! You were meant to be on top of the Protoss throne!
Now we have MC. EMM CEE. Dood. You get out of your slump now, and you take back your crown that's rightfully yours.

Dedicated fan since Beta,
Fatal

p.s. SEO KI SOO FIGHTING!
hi. big fan.
cesc
Profile Joined April 2011
South Africa77 Posts
May 24 2011 05:21 GMT
#18
TSL_Trickster

And yeah sign me up! This guy is such a BossToss
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JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 05:30:27
May 24 2011 05:27 GMT
#19
He once mentioned in an interview(it was in open season 1, with me and artosis doing interview) that he used id Tester because he was tester in his previous team(oGs). It was name he used without putting in any thought and he hated it cuz he felt like just random tester and nobody. I think that is why afterwards he used ids which are related to his name so fans would acknowledge who he is. SKS is his initial and Trickster is Sagisoo in Korean and similar to his name. Rumor says he was also affected by Fruitdealer who was loved for his unique id.

In Korea he is often called by his fans 용신, which means dragon god. I do not know the reason though.
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 24 2011 06:01 GMT
#20
On May 24 2011 14:27 JunkkaGom wrote:
He once mentioned in an interview(it was in open season 1, with me and artosis doing interview) that he used id Tester because he was tester in his previous team(oGs). It was name he used without putting in any thought and he hated it cuz he felt like just random tester and nobody. I think that is why afterwards he used ids which are related to his name so fans would acknowledge who he is. SKS is his initial and Trickster is Sagisoo in Korean and similar to his name. Rumor says he was also affected by Fruitdealer who was loved for his unique id.

In Korea he is often called by his fans 용신, which means dragon god. I do not know the reason though.


Tester was his BW nickname, which he got because he was in charge of auditioning players for his eStro team.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
May 24 2011 07:07 GMT
#21
Omg sign me up I've been waiting for this one for a while. I've modeled so much of my play after this guy.
wolfguru
Profile Joined May 2011
79 Posts
May 24 2011 08:15 GMT
#22
i've always liked trickster.
But man he has got to be the most inconsistence player in the gsl. one day he'll look unstoppable, then the next he'll lose to a no-name. it upsets me because he has been my favorite since season 1.

anyway sign meup
Razyel
Profile Joined May 2010
295 Posts
May 24 2011 08:50 GMT
#23
On May 24 2011 12:16 JunkkaGom wrote:
hm..I'm not sure if the fanclub should be 'Tester' fanclub when he mentioned that he hates the name.

We hate him too when he loses games that he shouldnt, we hate him too because of his inconsistency dont change the name... pls
Sign me up !
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aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
May 24 2011 09:11 GMT
#24
sign me up
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 09:51:09
May 24 2011 09:50 GMT
#25
I hated the guy and his cannon block at the ramp every single game unbeatable PvZ strategy for a good while too, but not any more. Well, the primary reason is that he can't win games any more, but it's just not that. You can sign me up too, but I think I'll get my name deleted if he starts to win games again.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 24 2011 13:39 GMT
#26
It's too bad he hates the name, because I think it's totally fucking badass. Like, imagine you're in a tournament, and you take a look at the brackets. Who do you see as your opponent?

TesteR.

Oh shit, this guy is about to test you. Test your might, kid. And you'd better be prepared.

Anyway, sign me up. It breaks my heart when he loses games that he shouldn't, because he has flashes of brilliant play that are constantly interrupted by pretty... disappointing play.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
May 24 2011 13:46 GMT
#27
been a fan since beta and always will!!!
The only weakness Tester have is his early that a lot of players take advantage but so deadly late game. I think he needs to play more safer and add more aggressive builds into his repertoire.
Szabe
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary16 Posts
May 24 2011 14:12 GMT
#28
Sign me up!
FpSsSlayeR
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany22 Posts
May 24 2011 15:13 GMT
#29
Sign me up please
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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
May 25 2011 02:36 GMT
#30
Please sign me up, because as my signature states I am Tester's #1 fan.

By far my favorite player. He was the first guy in the beta who made me go "holy shit I can't believe he just did that". He is also the only player who's style of play I try to emulate.

Tester and TSL fighting!!!
Team SCV Life #1
sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
June 02 2011 02:56 GMT
#31
all the best for tomorrow!!!!
Stormbringer!!!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#32
what is happening tomorrow? Oh gsl
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
June 02 2011 03:21 GMT
#33
sign me up.

his game vs freesaga (gsl open 1, round of 32, set 3 on metal) was the breakthrough "oh my god im gay for tester" moment
yaya
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
June 02 2011 03:40 GMT
#34
sign me up, Huge ssks fan, hasn't been playing teh greatest in the last few months, but he still has incredible play ability, I think once he stops trying to be so flashy he will make another run at maybe a code s championship.
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ANAngel
Profile Joined May 2011
7 Posts
June 02 2011 03:52 GMT
#35
The first professional game of SC2 I ever watched was Idra vs Tester/ssks/Trickster.

Sign me up please!
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 02 2011 04:32 GMT
#36
On May 24 2011 18:50 Djagulingu wrote:
I hated the guy and his cannon block at the ramp every single game unbeatable PvZ strategy for a good while too, but not any more. Well, the primary reason is that he can't win games any more, but it's just not that. You can sign me up too, but I think I'll get my name deleted if he starts to win games again.


I thought it was so cool that the last time we got to see the cannon block at the ramp was Tester doing it against Zenio in GSL January. Just hours before that patch hit Korean servers there Tester is making use of that build one last time.

Staying up late tonight to watch my boy live! TESTER FIGHTING
Team SCV Life #1
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 02 2011 11:05 GMT
#37
+ Show Spoiler +


Tester
Team SCV Life #1
Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
June 02 2011 11:12 GMT
#38
tester is such a cool name......
And Artosis sayeth "the one who kills many, but loses few, comes out ahead."
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
June 02 2011 23:28 GMT
#39
damn you tester. damn you
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 02 2011 23:31 GMT
#40
You wound your dear fans, Tester =(

Tighten up!!!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
MassIncestor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 23:40:34
June 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#41
I can't understand how this is so new.

TesteR was so goddamn sexy in beta. I adored that guy

IdrA vs TesteR on Metalo, where he went for quick ultras

such an amazing series
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
June 28 2011 10:27 GMT
#42
Tester advances to the ro16!!
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
July 13 2011 21:49 GMT
#43
gj man! GL against Losira
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Tawren
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
July 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#44
He looks great in his startale jacket also loved the games lol
Illest.
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada133 Posts
July 14 2011 06:10 GMT
#45
Sign me up.
I ♥ KPop.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 14 2011 10:03 GMT
#46
Can't believe I didn't know about this fan club before. TesteR has been my favorite player since the beta. Sign me up!
We found Dove in a soapless place.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
July 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#47
This guy is probably the most underrated player in the Forienger scene, studying SSkS's replays = Top 200. Come on ! one more win against LOsira!
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 20 2011 18:48 GMT
#48
Good run, Tester. Spoiler GSL Results
+ Show Spoiler +
Went down 2-3 to Losira. Nothing to be ashamed of, good luck on the next GSL.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Tarschi
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden185 Posts
July 20 2011 18:55 GMT
#49
sign me up
The worst enemy is yourself
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 11 2011 22:08 GMT
#50
Good luck at MLG, we're rooting for you!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
August 26 2011 23:51 GMT
#51
Game 1 vs DRG: o.o
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
August 26 2011 23:55 GMT
#52
On August 27 2011 08:51 QTIP. wrote:
Game 1 vs DRG: o.o

I know right? So interesting ^_^
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Xanwi
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom114 Posts
August 27 2011 00:05 GMT
#53
So good...
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 27 2011 00:06 GMT
#54
Wow, he used double Stargate off of FFE.

<3 that strat. I never thought to follow up with Chargelots though. Excellent build.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
August 27 2011 00:09 GMT
#55
GG Sokisu!
"En taro adun, Executor."
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 27 2011 00:09 GMT
#56
Holy christ, I had never seen his BW TLPD... This guy is truly serious business. Sign me up!
Get crunk
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#57
On August 27 2011 09:06 Cloud9157 wrote:
Wow, he used double Stargate off of FFE.

<3 that strat. I never thought to follow up with Chargelots though. Excellent build.

I was hoping for carriers since Tastosis talked about SC2-builds starting to look more and more like BW-builds.
Get crunk
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
August 27 2011 00:11 GMT
#58
Nice match aganist drg. Go Soo!
Chicken gank op
starmeat_
Profile Joined May 2011
105 Posts
August 27 2011 00:11 GMT
#59
Having seen the game versus DongRaeGu; I want to be a member of the fan club.

Such a good player with great strategies. That first game made me go WOW!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
August 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#60
Ki-Soo, please take this MLG. I've always believed in you since Beta!

TesteR FIGHTING!!
hi. big fan.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 01:59:00
August 27 2011 01:58 GMT
#61
MLG is no longer releasing replays, right? How can I watch these Tester games everybody is having nerdgasms from?

Plz tell me!
starmeat_
Profile Joined May 2011
105 Posts
August 27 2011 02:34 GMT
#62
On August 27 2011 10:58 IVN wrote:
MLG is no longer releasing replays, right? How can I watch these Tester games everybody is having nerdgasms from?

Plz tell me!


before day2 starts tomorrow, go to the MLG website and under the MLG video player there's VODS written, which will let you view all the matches from today.

Some VODS are already up, though I don't think the Tester game is though.
babyface
Profile Joined April 2010
United States40 Posts
August 27 2011 02:57 GMT
#63
sign me up!
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
August 27 2011 03:39 GMT
#64
On August 27 2011 11:34 starmeat_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 10:58 IVN wrote:
MLG is no longer releasing replays, right? How can I watch these Tester games everybody is having nerdgasms from?

Plz tell me!


before day2 starts tomorrow, go to the MLG website and under the MLG video player there's VODS written, which will let you view all the matches from today.

Some VODS are already up, though I don't think the Tester game is though.

Thanks man.
itstheTB
Profile Joined August 2011
61 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 21:44:43
August 27 2011 05:27 GMT
#65
my favourite player. totally gotta /sign me up

we need a strong Code-S protoss to look up to. Thou I wish Tester unleashes his great potential and becomes the super player he can be

[EDIT] after watching those two games against DRG: This is why I love TricksteR. He has it in him! DRG is a strong Zerg and I was affraid he'd loose his grp because of DRG, but man. Game 1, that Voidray tactic was just beautiful, Protoss being the race known to have bad harassment capability compared to T, Z, but that voidray just nullifys that argument.

[EDIT #2] aww, TricksteR He has it in him, I know it, he can 0-2 DRG and Hero. The nerves got to him at MLG, maybe he isn't used being outside Korea thus feeling uneasy with the new enviroment, not being able to focus properly.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
August 27 2011 05:59 GMT
#66
OK, I've now watched those 2 games vs DRG. And I must say, that was beautiful, dare I say, inspiring protoss play.


<3 Trickster.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
August 28 2011 06:02 GMT
#67
Insane games against Hero. I really enjoyed that.
Avokodo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
South Africa81 Posts
September 03 2011 05:38 GMT
#68
Sign me up ! my fav toss in the world <3
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 03 2011 09:09 GMT
#69
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.
Team SCV Life #1
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 06 2011 21:52 GMT
#70
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#71
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers

He is still better than most other people with fanclubs on TL... Sure he is nowhere near as good as he was before, but I think you're just doing this because you're lazy, and you're post count is evidence.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 06 2011 21:58 GMT
#72
Ahhhh wtf? This turned into an anti-fan club? T_T
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#73
On September 07 2011 06:57 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers

He is still better than most other people with fanclubs on TL... Sure he is nowhere near as good as he was before, but I think you're just doing this because you're lazy, and you're post count is evidence.



"and you are post count is evidence"

Sorry your post does not deserve a response as you clearly have the intelligence of a cucumber.

Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#74
First xtfftc threatens to leave the Idra fanclub, now this happens. T T
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 22:20:53
September 06 2011 22:20 GMT
#75
On September 07 2011 06:59 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers

He is still better than most other people with fanclubs on TL... Sure he is nowhere near as good as he was before, but I think you're just doing this because you're lazy, and you're post count is evidence.



"and you are post count is evidence"

Sorry your post does not deserve a response as you clearly have the intelligence of a cucumber.


If you didn't understand what I was saying, then you're the one with the intelligence of a cucumber, mistakes happen when you're tired and sleepy. I'm sure I could find a typo in one of your posts, oh wait you only have 10...
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
September 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#76
Tester didn't have a fan club back around launch when he was like the best player in the world?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 22:44:56
September 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#77
On September 07 2011 07:20 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:59 aaa wrote:
On September 07 2011 06:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers

He is still better than most other people with fanclubs on TL... Sure he is nowhere near as good as he was before, but I think you're just doing this because you're lazy, and you're post count is evidence.



"and you are post count is evidence"

Sorry your post does not deserve a response as you clearly have the intelligence of a cucumber.


If you didn't understand what I was saying, then you're the one with the intelligence of a cucumber, mistakes happen when you're tired and sleepy. I'm sure I could find a typo in one of your posts, oh wait you only have 10...


Why do you keep talking about post count like it means something when you joined TL in July of 2010.

Anyway, since you insist on talking about my post count i decided to take a look at your 1,000 posts and I happened to notice that you have made a total of FIVE posts in the Starcraft 2 Strategy section of team liquid, and a total of ZERO in the Brood War Strategy.

The caliber of your posts in the SC2 Strategy forum included material such as this:

"I once played someone called 'NukemTurtle', I didn't think anything of it until he 1 based for 30 minutes and when I had like 4k/4k and 5 base I finally decided to attack, he called down a ridiculous number of Nukes but I just walked back and attacked after they came down and won O_O."



Now honestly, do you really feel that your 1011 posts in Live report threads and fan clubs actually contributed anything of significance to this forum? I mean, enough to give you bragging rights about "how much you've posted"? I can tell from the quality of your posts that you're not a high level player (which is totally fine by me)...but I'm getting the feeling that you think you're some gift of God just because of your post count. Of course, if i had looked at your posts and I saw a plethora of intelligent discussion topics and actually insightful/helpful this would be a totally different issue, but sadly, that is not the case. Please, keep the elitism out of this thread. Instead of calling other people "lazy" you could be creating a new Fan Club for Tester right now. If you want to continue this discussion I would greatly prefer that you PM me instead of giving this "fan club" unnecessary attention.

Thanks.
Kiangani
Profile Joined April 2011
United States122 Posts
September 06 2011 23:03 GMT
#78
The point of focusing on your low number of posts isn't supposed to be some sort of dick measuring contest, it's to show that you are not a very active member of TeamLiquid and therefore should not have created a fanclub that you aren't willing to maintain, especially for a player you clearly don't even like very much, as evidenced by the fact that you used a picture of him crying as the default and created the fanclub only when it became clear that he wasn't as good as he used to be, only to abandon it when he didn't suddenly turn around and become what he was in the beta.
"david some do it T>T" - The Emperor, SlayerS BoxeR, MLG Pro Circuit 2011 Anaheim
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 06 2011 23:13 GMT
#79
Basically what Kiangani said ^^, my post count is actually pretty low compared to most people, my point would be just as valid if I had a low post count. Any ways I don't want to turn this into a flaming contest and get banned (I doubt you'd care) so I'm just going to ignore you.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 06 2011 23:16 GMT
#80
On September 07 2011 08:03 Kiangani wrote:
The point of focusing on your low number of posts isn't supposed to be some sort of dick measuring contest, it's to show that you are not a very active member of TeamLiquid and therefore should not have created a fanclub that you aren't willing to maintain, especially for a player you clearly don't even like very much, as evidenced by the fact that you used a picture of him crying as the default and created the fanclub only when it became clear that he wasn't as good as he used to be, only to abandon it when he didn't suddenly turn around and become what he was in the beta.


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

He wasn't "crying" in the original picture i used. Maybe if you had seen it yourself you would be in a position to speak. But clearly you're just running your mouth. The picture i used was his most recent picture as the fan club was created after he was ELIMINATED from the GSL. It was made at that point to show SUPPORT to a player I had been following for a very long time in a time whom was receiving very little attention/publicity due to his recent slumping.

The whole reason I'm "abandoning" the fan club is not because he hasn't posted results. I've followed and supported Tester since release despite his placings getting lower and lower. The main issue here is that it is due to the fact that he has stopped practicing which is why he has no been performing. A player that does not put hard work into the game (which is his CAREER ) does not merit support from me. I suggest you look into the TSL/sc2con recent issues to get more information about this subject.


CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 07 2011 00:41 GMT
#81
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers


It's not fair for you to say he "refuses to practice" when you actually don't know that. I highly doubt that is the case anyways. You can make the argument for Fruitdealer since he won a ton of money in Open Season #1 but Tester hasn't. I'm sure he's hungry for a title and I hope he will get it eventually. Yes he is slumping and yes he has not been playing up to his potential and the name he made for himself in the beta but why should I turn my back on him?

He was the first player I watched in the beta who made me say out loud to myself "holy shit I can't believe he just did that". I then tried to find as many VODs and replays of him as possible to copy his builds. After that came the first GSL season where I would stay up until 4am when I had class at 10am to watch his games, where any other day of GSL when Tester wasn't playing I would just check Team Liquid for results. After he lost to Rainbow I made an attempt to get a few hours of sleep before class and I kept trying to figure out what he was thinking that made him decide to attack down his ramp in that position. I felt angry, sad, and confused all at the same time over a game of Starcraft, the same way I felt about Steve Bartman taking a foul ball from Moises Alou in 2003.

Ever since he blindly ran down his ramp when Rainbow was camping it, yes, he has disappointed me a lot. From not qualifying two seasons in a row, refusing to change his build of fast expanding even though MVP kept using the same all-in on him, that horrible excuses of a series against sC where he opened charge against cloaked banshees then tried to go for the colossus-voidray-into-storm off two bases in the next game, his warp prism he flew right into anypro's stalkers, getting knocked into Code A only for San to completely throw that game away giving him a second chance at Code S that he technically didn't deserve, losing to TheBest in the Super Tournament and then finally disregarding what his observer saw against Ryung and doing the complete opposite of what he should have done. Then there was that whole MLG fiasco where he lost to TLO and a bunch of other players he should have beaten... Yes Tester has let me down a lot since that exciting first season of GSL but I'm not just going to give up on him, what kind of fan would that make me? For every dumb thing he does in a game, there is always a stroke of brilliance he shows. Remember all the cool things he used to do with cannons? Or his mothership build against Yugioh? Or how about that game against Clide on Crossfire where he was dead in the water but scratched and clawed his way back to victory and capitalized on the mistakes Clide was making? Or what about when Hero stole his gas five or six times and had a pylon in Tester's base at MLG? Most players would have completely went on tilt and fallen apart there but Tester didn't and won that series. Oh yeah and just last season he was in the round of eight and almost beat Losira who ended up going to the finals...

That's why he's my favorite player, because he's a fucking boss.

(and honestly, I debated making a fanclub for Tester way before this one was made. unfortunately I don't have the time or tenacity to make a high quality fan club like he deserves)
Team SCV Life #1
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 07 2011 01:08 GMT
#82
On September 07 2011 09:41 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers


It's not fair for you to say he "refuses to practice" when you actually don't know that. I highly doubt that is the case anyways. You can make the argument for Fruitdealer since he won a ton of money in Open Season #1 but Tester hasn't. I'm sure he's hungry for a title and I hope he will get it eventually. Yes he is slumping and yes he has not been playing up to his potential and the name he made for himself in the beta but why should I turn my back on him?



Hi, I'm going to exclude the 2nd half of your post because I believe that the content of it is more of a personal testament and doesn't really address what we're discussing as much as the former half. While I do respect the fact that you have clearly been following Tester for a while, and are disappointed that he doesn't have the fan club you believe he deserves.

Anyway, on topic....

I don't know how you can say that Tester [and Fruitdealer] are still practicing hard after they left oGs to join TSL specifically because TSL was offering a very light practice schedule relative to oGs.

Ever since Tester and FD joined TSL their results had been getting worse and worse (with an exception of GSL July for Tester [but Tester got VERY lucky with his group that season getting a free win vs rain after goig 0-1 vs july]).

I assume that you're aware that Tester and Fruitdealer recently left TSL to join ST. It was later revealed that all the members of TSL were not satisfied with the results that they were putting up so they entered a "rebuilding stage" with stricter practice regimes, and once again Tester and FD fled the idea of having to acutally put work into the game, and are now on ST.

If you haven't been aware of the Tester/FD TSL issues i suggest you check out these threads:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251219
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252847
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251282


It's pretty clear that Tester and FD are both not working very hard at sc2 unless they've both started practicing seriously since joining ST, which is very doubtful since they would have not left TSL in the first place if they were willing to put more hours into the game.

Finally, I would like to say that FD has not made THAT much money from GSL Open1. In fact, he only made about 86,000$. For a 26 year old who likely doesn't have university education (he was playing professional bw previous to sc2) whose backup job is likely going to be working at his mothers fruit stand again....that is NOT a lot of money. Considering the competition in sc2 is only going to get harder and harder as time goes on, I see no reason for him to be satisfied with just 1 gsl win and stop practicing (so I don't follow your previous argument concerning that).


CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 07 2011 19:46 GMT
#83
On September 07 2011 10:08 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 09:41 CuSToM wrote:
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers


It's not fair for you to say he "refuses to practice" when you actually don't know that. I highly doubt that is the case anyways. You can make the argument for Fruitdealer since he won a ton of money in Open Season #1 but Tester hasn't. I'm sure he's hungry for a title and I hope he will get it eventually. Yes he is slumping and yes he has not been playing up to his potential and the name he made for himself in the beta but why should I turn my back on him?



Hi, I'm going to exclude the 2nd half of your post because I believe that the content of it is more of a personal testament and doesn't really address what we're discussing as much as the former half. While I do respect the fact that you have clearly been following Tester for a while, and are disappointed that he doesn't have the fan club you believe he deserves.

Anyway, on topic....

I don't know how you can say that Tester [and Fruitdealer] are still practicing hard after they left oGs to join TSL specifically because TSL was offering a very light practice schedule relative to oGs.

Ever since Tester and FD joined TSL their results had been getting worse and worse (with an exception of GSL July for Tester [but Tester got VERY lucky with his group that season getting a free win vs rain after goig 0-1 vs july]).

I assume that you're aware that Tester and Fruitdealer recently left TSL to join ST. It was later revealed that all the members of TSL were not satisfied with the results that they were putting up so they entered a "rebuilding stage" with stricter practice regimes, and once again Tester and FD fled the idea of having to acutally put work into the game, and are now on ST.

If you haven't been aware of the Tester/FD TSL issues i suggest you check out these threads:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251219
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252847
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251282


It's pretty clear that Tester and FD are both not working very hard at sc2 unless they've both started practicing seriously since joining ST, which is very doubtful since they would have not left TSL in the first place if they were willing to put more hours into the game.

Finally, I would like to say that FD has not made THAT much money from GSL Open1. In fact, he only made about 86,000$. For a 26 year old who likely doesn't have university education (he was playing professional bw previous to sc2) whose backup job is likely going to be working at his mothers fruit stand again....that is NOT a lot of money. Considering the competition in sc2 is only going to get harder and harder as time goes on, I see no reason for him to be satisfied with just 1 gsl win and stop practicing (so I don't follow your previous argument concerning that).




I'm not saying that's why Fruitdealer is playing poorly nor am I saying he isn't practicing hard. All I said was I can understand why some people may think that about him since he slumped hard immediately after season 1.

Yes I know why they left oGs and yes I understand the drama between them and TSL, I'm not oblivious. However, with how many good players there are not even in the GSL, if they weren't practicing they probably would have fallen out of Code A by now. Yeah Tester might have gotten lucky with the July / Rain situation in GSL July but you don't get to the round of 8 in Code S off of pure luck and no practice. I also don't think Startale would pick up players who don't practice when they are one of the better teams in Korea. You keep making it seem like they do nothing but fuck around all day when that isn't a fair assessment for you to make. Does Rainbow not practice either? He left oGs and is in a slump too right? Yeah that must mean he sits around on his ass all day.


Team SCV Life #1
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 04:02 GMT
#84
On September 08 2011 04:46 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 10:08 aaa wrote:
On September 07 2011 09:41 CuSToM wrote:
On September 07 2011 06:52 aaa wrote:
On September 03 2011 18:09 CuSToM wrote:
I wish this fan club got the attention it deserves from its OP.

My favorite player in the entire world.


I'm not sure if you're serious, but what attention does a player that blatantly refuses to practice deserve? May i ask why he's your favourite player? I've followed Tester since the beta, and all he's done since release is disappoint. Both him and fruit dealer have gone way downhill simply because they don't care. I don't feel a player like Tester deserves to have a fan club and therefore am removing the content from the OP. If you feel differently, I encourage you to create your own Tester fan club as he continues his descent into code B.

Cheers


It's not fair for you to say he "refuses to practice" when you actually don't know that. I highly doubt that is the case anyways. You can make the argument for Fruitdealer since he won a ton of money in Open Season #1 but Tester hasn't. I'm sure he's hungry for a title and I hope he will get it eventually. Yes he is slumping and yes he has not been playing up to his potential and the name he made for himself in the beta but why should I turn my back on him?



Hi, I'm going to exclude the 2nd half of your post because I believe that the content of it is more of a personal testament and doesn't really address what we're discussing as much as the former half. While I do respect the fact that you have clearly been following Tester for a while, and are disappointed that he doesn't have the fan club you believe he deserves.

Anyway, on topic....

I don't know how you can say that Tester [and Fruitdealer] are still practicing hard after they left oGs to join TSL specifically because TSL was offering a very light practice schedule relative to oGs.

Ever since Tester and FD joined TSL their results had been getting worse and worse (with an exception of GSL July for Tester [but Tester got VERY lucky with his group that season getting a free win vs rain after goig 0-1 vs july]).

I assume that you're aware that Tester and Fruitdealer recently left TSL to join ST. It was later revealed that all the members of TSL were not satisfied with the results that they were putting up so they entered a "rebuilding stage" with stricter practice regimes, and once again Tester and FD fled the idea of having to acutally put work into the game, and are now on ST.

If you haven't been aware of the Tester/FD TSL issues i suggest you check out these threads:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251219
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252847
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251282


It's pretty clear that Tester and FD are both not working very hard at sc2 unless they've both started practicing seriously since joining ST, which is very doubtful since they would have not left TSL in the first place if they were willing to put more hours into the game.

Finally, I would like to say that FD has not made THAT much money from GSL Open1. In fact, he only made about 86,000$. For a 26 year old who likely doesn't have university education (he was playing professional bw previous to sc2) whose backup job is likely going to be working at his mothers fruit stand again....that is NOT a lot of money. Considering the competition in sc2 is only going to get harder and harder as time goes on, I see no reason for him to be satisfied with just 1 gsl win and stop practicing (so I don't follow your previous argument concerning that).




I'm not saying that's why Fruitdealer is playing poorly nor am I saying he isn't practicing hard. All I said was I can understand why some people may think that about him since he slumped hard immediately after season 1.

Yes I know why they left oGs and yes I understand the drama between them and TSL, I'm not oblivious. However, with how many good players there are not even in the GSL, if they weren't practicing they probably would have fallen out of Code A by now. Yeah Tester might have gotten lucky with the July / Rain situation in GSL July but you don't get to the round of 8 in Code S off of pure luck and no practice. I also don't think Startale would pick up players who don't practice when they are one of the better teams in Korea. You keep making it seem like they do nothing but fuck around all day when that isn't a fair assessment for you to make. Does Rainbow not practice either? He left oGs and is in a slump too right? Yeah that must mean he sits around on his ass all day.




I think you have a misunderstanding with what i'm saying. When I say Tester isn't practicing I OBVIOUSLY don't mean he's sittig around "fucking around all day". Of course Tester still plays games but by Korean standards where they play/practice 12+ hours a day, Tester clearly is not putting that effort into it. Being a professional Starcraft II player living in Korea, Tester has differant responsibilities and obligations to a team when compared to the foreign scene. The bottom line is that Tester is not putting in the work required to maintain his status as a top Starcraft player.

Tester's run to the round of 8 in GSL July WAS quite lucky. As mentioned before, he had the Rain/July issue, and then he was up against his former teammate Clide who hands down had the easiest group match.

By no means am i saying Tester is a BAD player...I believe he has the potential to become the Tester from the beta again, but he is not putting in the effort and dedication required, and I cannot support a player like such.

Rainbow left oGs and is on ST along with Tester and FD...coincidence?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 08 2011 13:10 GMT
#85
Tester barely missed it .
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 08 2011 13:31 GMT
#86
On September 08 2011 13:02 aaa wrote:
By no means am i saying Tester is a BAD player...I believe he has the potential to become the Tester from the beta again, but he is not putting in the effort and dedication required, and I cannot support a player like such.


Then leave the fanclub.
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
September 08 2011 13:44 GMT
#87
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


What the fuck? OP
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#88
On September 08 2011 22:31 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 13:02 aaa wrote:
By no means am i saying Tester is a BAD player...I believe he has the potential to become the Tester from the beta again, but he is not putting in the effort and dedication required, and I cannot support a player like such.


Then leave the fanclub.



Hahaahahahaha that is one of the dumbest posts i've seen in a while.
Tarschi
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden185 Posts
September 08 2011 15:15 GMT
#89
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!
The worst enemy is yourself
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
September 08 2011 15:21 GMT
#90
you made a fanclub for him. then deleted. nice fan.
xd
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 15:21:45
September 08 2011 15:21 GMT
#91
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

On September 09 2011 00:21 ElusoryX wrote:
you made a fanclub for him. then deleted. nice fan.


Opinions can change, you know.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 08 2011 15:35 GMT
#92
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.
trekala
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 15:43:16
September 08 2011 15:42 GMT
#93
"Deleting" the fanclub is kinda ridiculous and immature. you can just stop moding the thread and give priviliges to someone else. Deleting the fanclub only shows how selfish you are. Maybe others still are Trickster's fans and want a place to discuss about him.
Also, the thread was started in may 2011, right? Trickster and FD were already in TSL at that time so your arguments with him not wanting to practice anymore are 3/4 invalid.
Grow up?
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 15:42 GMT
#94
On September 09 2011 00:35 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.


If you actually read the thread you would know I don't think Tester is a terrible player. Please stop putting words in my mouth, like I said before you have no business to keep posting here; if you want to post about "how close" Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread. This is NOT the place for such posts anymore.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 15:44 GMT
#95
On September 09 2011 00:42 trekala wrote:
"Deleting" the fanclub is kinda ridiculous and immature. you can just stop moding the thread and give priviliges to someone else. Deleting the fanclub only shows how selfish you are. Maybe others still are Trickster's fans.
Also, the thread was started in may 2011, right? Trickster and FD were already in TSL at that time so your arguments with him not wanting to practice anymore are 3/4 invalid.
Grow up?


You're really really dumb. The whole Tester FD drama was never discussed in depth by any coaches/players until they LEFT TSL.
trekala
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania25 Posts
September 08 2011 15:52 GMT
#96
threads dating back to august 2010 tell that they left ogs to play in a more free and relaxed enviorment.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 08 2011 15:56 GMT
#97
Can the mods get in here and give the privileges to someone else? I'm not even a Tester fan, but this is just silly.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
September 08 2011 16:06 GMT
#98
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.

Oh cmon, lol. If TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, then most of non-top-of-the-top players (Destiny, Elfi, GoOdy, HasHe, Killer (SangHo), NightEnD, Painuser, xiaOt etc etc etc etc etc..) and everyone who is not code S or code A level doesn't deserve a fanclub also? MC too? no?
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 08 2011 17:33 GMT
#99
On September 09 2011 00:42 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:35 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.


If you actually read the thread you would know I don't think Tester is a terrible player. Please stop putting words in my mouth, like I said before you have no business to keep posting here; if you want to post about "how close" Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread. This is NOT the place for such posts anymore.


This is still the "Tester Fanclub" thread. Nothing you edited / wrote does change this fact.
If you want to remove this fanclub you should PM a mod. Until they decide the normal fanclub rules dont apply anymore - please stop posting shit in this thread and let the people who are still fans of Tester like CuSToM (nice writeup btw!) talk about their "idol".
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:46:34
September 08 2011 17:44 GMT
#100
On September 09 2011 02:33 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:42 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:35 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.


If you actually read the thread you would know I don't think Tester is a terrible player. Please stop putting words in my mouth, like I said before you have no business to keep posting here; if you want to post about "how close" Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread. This is NOT the place for such posts anymore.


This is still the "Tester Fanclub" thread. Nothing you edited / wrote does change this fact.
If you want to remove this fanclub you should PM a mod. Until they decide the normal fanclub rules dont apply anymore - please stop posting shit in this thread and let the people who are still fans of Tester like CuSToM (nice writeup btw!) talk about their "idol".

He did not say that "I expel you from being tester fans". He said "I'm no longer a tester fan and I don't think he deserves a fanclub". If you're a tester fan who deserves a tester fanclub, get this one deleted and run one on your own instead of bashing the op.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 08 2011 17:51 GMT
#101
On September 09 2011 02:44 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:33 Zocat wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:42 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:35 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.


If you actually read the thread you would know I don't think Tester is a terrible player. Please stop putting words in my mouth, like I said before you have no business to keep posting here; if you want to post about "how close" Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread. This is NOT the place for such posts anymore.


This is still the "Tester Fanclub" thread. Nothing you edited / wrote does change this fact.
If you want to remove this fanclub you should PM a mod. Until they decide the normal fanclub rules dont apply anymore - please stop posting shit in this thread and let the people who are still fans of Tester like CuSToM (nice writeup btw!) talk about their "idol".

He did not say that "I expel you from being tester fans". He said "I'm no longer a tester fan and I don't think he deserves a fanclub". If you're a tester fan who deserves a tester fanclub, get this one deleted and run one on your own instead of bashing the op.


My comment never implied that I thought he said "I expel you from being tester fans".
He said "if you want to post about 'how close' Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread".
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 18:52 GMT
#102
On September 09 2011 01:06 zaMNal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.

Oh cmon, lol. If TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, then most of non-top-of-the-top players (Destiny, Elfi, GoOdy, HasHe, Killer (SangHo), NightEnD, Painuser, xiaOt etc etc etc etc etc..) and everyone who is not code S or code A level doesn't deserve a fanclub also? MC too? no?


Are you totally delusional or just really stupid? I never said Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub becuase of his skill; it's the fact that he isn't putting proper effort into the game. Do I think MC deserves a fanclub even though he's in a slump? Yes I do, it's a totally different issue and you're completely missing the boat. Do i think FD deserves a fanclub? No I don't, but I didn't create the FD fanclub, so it's none of my business. How is that so hard for you to comprehend?

-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 18:54 GMT
#103
On September 09 2011 02:51 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:44 Djagulingu wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:33 Zocat wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:42 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:35 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:21 Sein wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:15 Tarschi wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.


THE FUCK?!


Well, he was the one who created this fanclub thread, so I think he has the right to remove it if that's what he wants.

There's a difference between 'I don't have the time to maintain the fanclub, sorry!' and 'Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub because he literally hasn't practiced since beta and is a terrible terrible player'.


If you actually read the thread you would know I don't think Tester is a terrible player. Please stop putting words in my mouth, like I said before you have no business to keep posting here; if you want to post about "how close" Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread. This is NOT the place for such posts anymore.


This is still the "Tester Fanclub" thread. Nothing you edited / wrote does change this fact.
If you want to remove this fanclub you should PM a mod. Until they decide the normal fanclub rules dont apply anymore - please stop posting shit in this thread and let the people who are still fans of Tester like CuSToM (nice writeup btw!) talk about their "idol".

He did not say that "I expel you from being tester fans". He said "I'm no longer a tester fan and I don't think he deserves a fanclub". If you're a tester fan who deserves a tester fanclub, get this one deleted and run one on your own instead of bashing the op.


My comment never implied that I thought he said "I expel you from being tester fans".
He said "if you want to post about 'how close' Tester was to maintaining code S please start a new Fanclub or thread".



I'm going to have to quote Djagulingu here as he pretty much took the words right out of my mouth

If you're a tester fan who deserves a tester fanclub, get this one deleted and run one on your own instead of bashing the op.

Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#104
I think you shouldn't remove all your work just because you no longer feel you are a fan.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#105
I really don't understand how you're gleaning SKS' practice regiment since he's joined startale. It's all conjecture, impressions, and speculation. You have no idea how much effort or playtime he puts in.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
September 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#106
I wish people wouldn't jump the gun on making a fanclub when they obviously weren't as big a fan as originally thought. Most people who organize fanclubs are beyond diehard fans. Shitty for everyone who joined.

Just sad to see this fanclub gone, I am sure someone will make one up soon.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 19:28 GMT
#107
On September 09 2011 04:25 Uncultured wrote:
I really don't understand how you're gleaning SKS' practice regiment since he's joined startale. It's all conjecture, impressions, and speculation. You have no idea how much effort or playtime he puts in.


There have been statements by Coach Lee explaining the issue. If you go back a page or two you can find links to the threads.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
September 08 2011 19:36 GMT
#108
On September 09 2011 04:28 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 04:25 Uncultured wrote:
I really don't understand how you're gleaning SKS' practice regiment since he's joined startale. It's all conjecture, impressions, and speculation. You have no idea how much effort or playtime he puts in.


There have been statements by Coach Lee explaining the issue. If you go back a page or two you can find links to the threads.

Don't know why you are both surprised. Didn't he leave oGs for a more laxed practice schedule?
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#109
Once again, you have no idea what their practice regiment is in Startale.

And personally, I think a player should be able to practice as much as they're comfortable with. Also, it's been obvious for a long time that SKS has prefered a light practice scedule, way before his results started dropping. Did you just somehow ignore it when you first made the thread? Of course, because his results were good.

You're the very definition of a fair weather fan.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 08 2011 19:45 GMT
#110
On September 09 2011 03:52 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 01:06 zaMNal wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.

Oh cmon, lol. If TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, then most of non-top-of-the-top players (Destiny, Elfi, GoOdy, HasHe, Killer (SangHo), NightEnD, Painuser, xiaOt etc etc etc etc etc..) and everyone who is not code S or code A level doesn't deserve a fanclub also? MC too? no?


Are you totally delusional or just really stupid? I never said Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub becuase of his skill; it's the fact that he isn't putting proper effort into the game. Do I think MC deserves a fanclub even though he's in a slump? Yes I do, it's a totally different issue and you're completely missing the boat. Do i think FD deserves a fanclub? No I don't, but I didn't create the FD fanclub, so it's none of my business. How is that so hard for you to comprehend?



Im confused what exactly is the boat that people are missing?
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
September 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#111
wtf is this bullshit? Why make one to close it?
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 20:11 GMT
#112
On September 09 2011 04:45 izgodlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 03:52 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 01:06 zaMNal wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.

Oh cmon, lol. If TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, then most of non-top-of-the-top players (Destiny, Elfi, GoOdy, HasHe, Killer (SangHo), NightEnD, Painuser, xiaOt etc etc etc etc etc..) and everyone who is not code S or code A level doesn't deserve a fanclub also? MC too? no?


Are you totally delusional or just really stupid? I never said Tester doesn't deserve a fanclub becuase of his skill; it's the fact that he isn't putting proper effort into the game. Do I think MC deserves a fanclub even though he's in a slump? Yes I do, it's a totally different issue and you're completely missing the boat. Do i think FD deserves a fanclub? No I don't, but I didn't create the FD fanclub, so it's none of my business. How is that so hard for you to comprehend?



Im confused what exactly is the boat that people are missing?


Not sure if serious..

In this case the "boat" represents the premise of my argument detailing why I believe Tester does not deserve a fan club. By writing "missing the boat" I meant that ZaMNal was missing the main point of my argument.
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#113
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 20:35 GMT
#114
On September 09 2011 05:30 izgodlee wrote:
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.


You're right. I did cherry pick my answer, I only compared Tester to FD and MC---the only 2 koreans mentioned in that post. As I said previously, being a member of a Korean team and living in a Korean team house is a totally different issue when contrasted to the living styles and practice regimes of foreign players and thus, I feel it is irrelevant to draw direct comparisons with foreign players.
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 08 2011 20:44 GMT
#115
On September 09 2011 05:35 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:30 izgodlee wrote:
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.


You're right. I did cherry pick my answer, I only compared Tester to FD and MC---the only 2 koreans mentioned in that post. As I said previously, being a member of a Korean team and living in a Korean team house is a totally different issue when contrasted to the living styles and practice regimes of foreign players and thus, I feel it is irrelevant to draw direct comparisons with foreign players.


Sigh... This still does not answer HOW much effort is required to deserve a fan club. If tester practices an extra hour he deserves it, but an extra 50 minutes and he doesn't? There is also no accurate way of measuring how much he practices. Results are a somewhat good indication, however there are always cases where sometimes a player can practice less and still win against a player who practices more. It's just not reasonabl to remove a fanclub based on the idea that Tester isn't putting in as much effort as he should.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 20:51 GMT
#116
On September 09 2011 05:44 izgodlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:35 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:30 izgodlee wrote:
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.


You're right. I did cherry pick my answer, I only compared Tester to FD and MC---the only 2 koreans mentioned in that post. As I said previously, being a member of a Korean team and living in a Korean team house is a totally different issue when contrasted to the living styles and practice regimes of foreign players and thus, I feel it is irrelevant to draw direct comparisons with foreign players.


Sigh... This still does not answer HOW much effort is required to deserve a fan club. If tester practices an extra hour he deserves it, but an extra 50 minutes and he doesn't? There is also no accurate way of measuring how much he practices. Results are a somewhat good indication, however there are always cases where sometimes a player can practice less and still win against a player who practices more. It's just not reasonabl to remove a fanclub based on the idea that Tester isn't putting in as much effort as he should.


That is a matter of your own opinion. I believe it is completely reasonable for me to remove the fan club that I myself created in my own time because I personally believe he is undeserving and you disagreeing or agreeing with me will not change my mind.


izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 08 2011 21:29 GMT
#117
On September 09 2011 05:51 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:44 izgodlee wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:35 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:30 izgodlee wrote:
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.


You're right. I did cherry pick my answer, I only compared Tester to FD and MC---the only 2 koreans mentioned in that post. As I said previously, being a member of a Korean team and living in a Korean team house is a totally different issue when contrasted to the living styles and practice regimes of foreign players and thus, I feel it is irrelevant to draw direct comparisons with foreign players.


Sigh... This still does not answer HOW much effort is required to deserve a fan club. If tester practices an extra hour he deserves it, but an extra 50 minutes and he doesn't? There is also no accurate way of measuring how much he practices. Results are a somewhat good indication, however there are always cases where sometimes a player can practice less and still win against a player who practices more. It's just not reasonabl to remove a fanclub based on the idea that Tester isn't putting in as much effort as he should.


That is a matter of your own opinion. I believe it is completely reasonable for me to remove the fan club that I myself created in my own time because I personally believe he is undeserving and you disagreeing or agreeing with me will not change my mind.




Although you created it on your own time, the reasoning behind the closure of it is, sorry to say, downright retarded. If you are able to provide a spread sheet of all Korean Pro practice hours and are able to know for sure whether Tester is practicing or not then okay, the problem is your baseless opinion, aka talking-out-of-your-ass. Despite all this, you pulled the Annoying Childhood Friend card, so I suppose there is nothing more I can do to convince you as I have already pointed out the obvious flaws of your "X player doesn't deserve fan club because they are not putting in X effort" idea. I guess someone else will have to make a new fan club.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 08 2011 21:36 GMT
#118
Well, this is certainly the most action the Tester fanclub has seen in months.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#119
Honestly if Tester doesn't "deserve" a fan club then almost every other player / personality who has a fanclub here doesn't deserve one. You should have asked if someone was willing to take it over before you selfishly decided on your own he's unworthy of one.

What a bunch of bullshit. You truly are a fair-weather fan like someone said earlier.

Team SCV Life #1
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#120
On September 09 2011 06:29 izgodlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:51 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:44 izgodlee wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:35 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:30 izgodlee wrote:
Okay I guess that makes sense, however you cherrypicked your answer comparing tester to only MC. Although Tester doesn’t practice as much, it is highly likely he still practices more than a lot of the players who already have a fan club. It is foolish and subjective to say you must put X amount of effort in to deserve a fanclub.


You're right. I did cherry pick my answer, I only compared Tester to FD and MC---the only 2 koreans mentioned in that post. As I said previously, being a member of a Korean team and living in a Korean team house is a totally different issue when contrasted to the living styles and practice regimes of foreign players and thus, I feel it is irrelevant to draw direct comparisons with foreign players.


Sigh... This still does not answer HOW much effort is required to deserve a fan club. If tester practices an extra hour he deserves it, but an extra 50 minutes and he doesn't? There is also no accurate way of measuring how much he practices. Results are a somewhat good indication, however there are always cases where sometimes a player can practice less and still win against a player who practices more. It's just not reasonabl to remove a fanclub based on the idea that Tester isn't putting in as much effort as he should.


That is a matter of your own opinion. I believe it is completely reasonable for me to remove the fan club that I myself created in my own time because I personally believe he is undeserving and you disagreeing or agreeing with me will not change my mind.




Although you created it on your own time, the reasoning behind the closure of it is, sorry to say, downright retarded. If you are able to provide a spread sheet of all Korean Pro practice hours and are able to know for sure whether Tester is practicing or not then okay, the problem is your baseless opinion, aka talking-out-of-your-ass. Despite all this, you pulled the Annoying Childhood Friend card, so I suppose there is nothing more I can do to convince you as I have already pointed out the obvious flaws of your "X player doesn't deserve fan club because they are not putting in X effort" idea. I guess someone else will have to make a new fan club.


It is common knowledge that Tester is not practicing nearly as much as other Korean pros therefore your argument is void.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#121
On September 09 2011 07:01 CuSToM wrote:
Honestly if Tester doesn't "deserve" a fan club then almost every other player / personality who has a fanclub here doesn't deserve one. You should have asked if someone was willing to take it over before you selfishly decided on your own he's unworthy of one.

What a bunch of bullshit. You truly are a fair-weather fan like someone said earlier.



Why does Tester deserve a fanclub?
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
September 08 2011 22:07 GMT
#122
wtf OP, you just deleted the fanclub? I don't even know what should be done about this...
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karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 22:21:14
September 08 2011 22:08 GMT
#123
MLG Raleigh 2011 - Game 1 - ST Trickster (P) VS Liquid'Hero (P)
MLG Raleigh 2011 - Game 2 - ST Trickster (P) VS Liquid'Hero (P)

pretty entertaining PvPs
That puppy is killing e-sports
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 08 2011 22:15 GMT
#124
On September 09 2011 07:04 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 07:01 CuSToM wrote:
Honestly if Tester doesn't "deserve" a fan club then almost every other player / personality who has a fanclub here doesn't deserve one. You should have asked if someone was willing to take it over before you selfishly decided on your own he's unworthy of one.

What a bunch of bullshit. You truly are a fair-weather fan like someone said earlier.



Why does Tester deserve a fanclub?


Why does Tyler deserve a fanclub? Why does Lindsey Sporrer deserve a fanclub? Why does Kelly Milkies deserve a fanclub? Why does Minigun deserve a fanclub? What about Idra? Talk about someone who doesn't practice as much as he does and has done nothing but disappoint since IPL. Yet he has the biggest fanclub here on TL.

The list could go on and on, you aren't one to judge who deserves and doesn't deserve a fanclub and neither am I. Yes you made the original one but it's selfish of you to take it apart because you have a new favorite player or whatever your reasoning is. You aren't a true fan and you shouldn't have made the fanclub in the first place.
Team SCV Life #1
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
September 08 2011 22:26 GMT
#125
Last Edit: 2011/09/07

Someone mad about up and down groups? Way to support Tester :/
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
September 08 2011 22:30 GMT
#126
What a dick move. You didn't think of all the other fans before deciding to remove the OP did you?

Even if you wouldn't find someone else willing to take over the maintenance of the op, you could have left it as is and just not updated it. This is extremely rude to both Tester himself and his fans.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 08 2011 22:48 GMT
#127
On September 09 2011 07:26 Cham wrote:
Last Edit: 2011/09/07

Someone mad about up and down groups? Way to support Tester :/


That was sept 7. The up/downs happened today. You're dumb.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 08 2011 22:56 GMT
#128
Tester must be pretty good to beat MarineKing without any practice!
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
September 08 2011 23:07 GMT
#129
Oh ya.. doesn't matter that he's better than 99% people who will ever read this, he just DOES NOT DESERVE IIIIIT.
Are you 14 or just autistic?
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
September 08 2011 23:22 GMT
#130
I dont want to get into any arguments but this is no way to show support for a guy who is down.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Censor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
September 08 2011 23:36 GMT
#131
On September 09 2011 08:22 Apollo_Shards wrote:
I dont want to get into any arguments but this is no way to show support for a guy who is down.

Yeah, seriously. Closing a fanclub is basically the most selfish thing you can do on an eSports website. Not only are you shitting on the player while he's in a slump, but you're fucking over his fans for no reason whatsoever.
Fantasy | Hydra | Flash
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 08 2011 23:37 GMT
#132
Even if you think TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, we (the true TesteR fans) deserve to have a fanclub for him. It is very selfish and immature of you to remove the OP without consideration for your fellow TLers.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
September 08 2011 23:44 GMT
#133
Was an awful fanclub post anyways. Please stick to lurking.
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
September 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#134
It doesn't matter as much as what you think of the fanclub as what other people think. What it TesteR came to the fanclub one day and saw this post? Like many people have said, it is very rude and immature to just remove a fanclub like that.
hemeh
CheeseMeNot
Profile Joined July 2011
80 Posts
September 09 2011 00:10 GMT
#135
And I thought LR OPs were bad nowadays...
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
September 09 2011 00:23 GMT
#136
This is stupid. When you make a fanclub, it becomes a part of the TL community for fans of a player to congregate. In effect, it becomes a part of the community - it is not "your" fanclub, and the OP had absolutely no right to mess with it. The existence of a fanclub of a player should not just depend on how the OP feels about the player, and I especially cringe to think how Trickster would feel if he was aware of this fanclub, went on TL to check it out, and saw this complete and utter bitch move. Seriously. What OP did is just a glorified player-bash, a complete low-blow. How astoundingly reprehensible.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 00:28 GMT
#137
On September 09 2011 07:15 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 07:04 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 07:01 CuSToM wrote:
Honestly if Tester doesn't "deserve" a fan club then almost every other player / personality who has a fanclub here doesn't deserve one. You should have asked if someone was willing to take it over before you selfishly decided on your own he's unworthy of one.

What a bunch of bullshit. You truly are a fair-weather fan like someone said earlier.



Why does Tester deserve a fanclub?


Why does Tyler deserve a fanclub? Why does Lindsey Sporrer deserve a fanclub? Why does Kelly Milkies deserve a fanclub? Why does Minigun deserve a fanclub? What about Idra? Talk about someone who doesn't practice as much as he does and has done nothing but disappoint since IPL. Yet he has the biggest fanclub here on TL.

The list could go on and on, you aren't one to judge who deserves and doesn't deserve a fanclub and neither am I. Yes you made the original one but it's selfish of you to take it apart because you have a new favorite player or whatever your reasoning is. You aren't a true fan and you shouldn't have made the fanclub in the first place.



Tyler deserves a fanclub because he is both a player and very involved in the Starcraft2 community--through state of the game etc. etc. He's done a lot more for esports than Tester has.

Lindsey Sporrer does not deserve a fanclub in my opinion.

Kelly Milkies is a caster, i'm not going to bother comparing apples to oranges.

Minigun deserves a fanclub because he started playing SCII with little-no RTS experience and was able to improve drastically, climb the ladder and make a name for himself as one of the top American protosses.

Idra has been a if not THE top foreign player since the Beta, and his "slumping" (although he's still putting up top foreigner results for foreigners not living in korea) is not due to lack of practice. He's said himself that he feels as if the Koreans are getting a step ahead of him and is working towards changing this by sacrificing everything to re-move to Korea again. I don't know how you can even begin to try to compare this to the Tester situation.





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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
September 09 2011 00:29 GMT
#138
As a fan of Tester I kind of like it. If Tester saw it, it would probably motivate him :D
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 00:29 GMT
#139
On September 09 2011 08:37 Cel.erity wrote:
Even if you think TesteR doesn't deserve a fanclub, we (the true TesteR fans) deserve to have a fanclub for him. It is very selfish and immature of you to remove the OP without consideration for your fellow TLers.


So make one yourself.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
September 09 2011 00:34 GMT
#140
I know this isn't really a... functioning fanclub atm, but just wanted to say I've been a Tester fan, since beta. Although his results have been very inconsistent, time and time again he has his own moments of brilliance, playing at a level most other Protoss can't match.

He didn't make it back to Code S, but I was impressed by his performance last night. His PvZ in particular, I think is definitely Code S level, even if he lost to viOlet. If he can play at last night's level consistently, I think he has a good shot at getting back to Code S. As good as any other Protoss, anyway.

I'm disgusted at what this "fanclub" has become, but whatever. Hopefully someone has the time to make Tester/Trickster a real fanclub, he deserves it.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 00:37 GMT
#141
On September 09 2011 08:36 Censor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:22 Apollo_Shards wrote:
I dont want to get into any arguments but this is no way to show support for a guy who is down.

Yeah, seriously. Closing a fanclub is basically the most selfish thing you can do on an eSports website. Not only are you shitting on the player while he's in a slump, but you're fucking over his fans for no reason whatsoever.


On September 09 2011 09:04 urasyupi2 wrote:
It doesn't matter as much as what you think of the fanclub as what other people think. What it TesteR came to the fanclub one day and saw this post? Like many people have said, it is very rude and immature to just remove a fanclub like that.


On September 09 2011 09:23 HolyArrow wrote:
This is stupid. When you make a fanclub, it becomes a part of the TL community for fans of a player to congregate. In effect, it becomes a part of the community - it is not "your" fanclub, and the OP had absolutely no right to mess with it. The existence of a fanclub of a player should not just depend on how the OP feels about the player, and I especially cringe to think how Trickster would feel if he was aware of this fanclub, went on TL to check it out, and saw this complete and utter bitch move. Seriously. What OP did is just a glorified player-bash, a complete low-blow. How astoundingly reprehensible.



Closing the fanclub isn't meant to be a direct insult or "low blow" to Tester. I didn't want to be a part of it anymore, so I took down my post. Instead of moaning about how bad it is ANY one of you could go make a new fanclub.

I find it funny how you seem outraged at the fact that "fans no longer have a place to congregate". This post has gotten FIVE times more views in 3 days than it had in months. Honestly do you really think Tester believes that he deserves his own fanclub?


Tamehr
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada63 Posts
September 09 2011 00:40 GMT
#142
lol op is so butthurt, get over it
hueheuhe
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 09 2011 00:40 GMT
#143
This is why you don't make a fanclub unless you're, y'know, a diehard fan.

Someone get a mod to close this topic and make another fanclub for Tester. Problem solved. aaa might be a dick, but he certainly has the right to be a dick. Also, there's little to no reason to keep arguing with someone who's clearly set in his opinion.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 00:42 GMT
#144
On September 09 2011 09:40 Tamehr wrote:
lol op is so butthurt, get over it


1) who are you?
2) about what?
modesttoss
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
September 09 2011 00:45 GMT
#145
Some mod should just close this fanclub then and let someone who actually wants to run one, make another. Simple as that.
Tamehr
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada63 Posts
September 09 2011 00:48 GMT
#146
OP just wants attention because hes butthurt and he wants to prove to everyone why hes so butthurt, also op all of your posts from like 5 pages have just been responses like " your dumb you make no sens hurrr " but you don't say anything constructive about the situation.

mods please close this retarded thread
hueheuhe
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 01:08 GMT
#147
On September 09 2011 09:48 Tamehr wrote:
OP just wants attention because hes butthurt and he wants to prove to everyone why hes so butthurt, also op all of your posts from like 5 pages have just been responses like " your dumb you make no sens hurrr " but you don't say anything constructive about the situation.

mods please close this retarded thread


On September 09 2011 09:42 aaa wrote:

1) who are you?
2) about what?

FishBones
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia195 Posts
September 09 2011 01:16 GMT
#148
Wow, pretty disappointing to see a fan open a fanclub of a player he's meant to be a fan of, then close it because the player doesn't perform to the expectation of the fan. Goes to show how fast some people turn from being a fan. The next step is becoming a hater because you're annoyed that the player isn't performing to your expectations. This sort of behaviour is what ruins e-sports. Why can't we just spread love?
Tears fill my eyes, so I look up | You and I, right now we can't be together
Tamehr
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada63 Posts
September 09 2011 01:35 GMT
#149
On September 09 2011 10:08 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:48 Tamehr wrote:
OP just wants attention because hes butthurt and he wants to prove to everyone why hes so butthurt, also op all of your posts from like 5 pages have just been responses like " your dumb you make no sens hurrr " but you don't say anything constructive about the situation.

mods please close this retarded thread


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:42 aaa wrote:

1) who are you?
2) about what?



Why would it matter who I am, this is the internetz my friend.
I could ask the same question out to you
hueheuhe
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
September 09 2011 02:12 GMT
#150
On September 09 2011 04:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think you shouldn't remove all your work just because you no longer feel you are a fan.


I think it's more honest than running away and leaving people to wonder why the fanclub hasn't been updated in x years.

People's opinion's change, the OP should have pm-ed a mod, since he's not interested in maintaining the fanclub anymore (assuming he didn't, I have no idea either way). Or if one of the people who insist on forcing him to run the thread should step up and pm a mod volunteering to take it off the OP's hands (if one hasn't yet).
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 02:22 GMT
#151
On September 09 2011 10:16 FishBones wrote:
Wow, pretty disappointing to see a fan open a fanclub of a player he's meant to be a fan of, then close it because the player doesn't perform to the expectation of the fan. Goes to show how fast some people turn from being a fan. The next step is becoming a hater because you're annoyed that the player isn't performing to your expectations. This sort of behaviour is what ruins e-sports. Why can't we just spread love?


Read the thread please before commenting moron.

User was temp banned for this post.
FishBones
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia195 Posts
September 09 2011 02:28 GMT
#152
On September 09 2011 11:22 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 10:16 FishBones wrote:
Wow, pretty disappointing to see a fan open a fanclub of a player he's meant to be a fan of, then close it because the player doesn't perform to the expectation of the fan. Goes to show how fast some people turn from being a fan. The next step is becoming a hater because you're annoyed that the player isn't performing to your expectations. This sort of behaviour is what ruins e-sports. Why can't we just spread love?


Read the thread please before commenting moron.


Your expectation was for the player to practice, doesn't that mean that tester isn't meeting your expectations like I said? But name calling is cool too.
Tears fill my eyes, so I look up | You and I, right now we can't be together
Funshines
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada86 Posts
September 09 2011 02:42 GMT
#153
A mod needs to close this and get rid of this and someone else needs to remake the fan page :/
Dimaga and Tester fan since beta!
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
September 09 2011 02:59 GMT
#154
I wonder how the mods would react if this was a Liquid player's fan club
FreedomPeacer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada67 Posts
September 09 2011 03:30 GMT
#155
On September 09 2011 09:37 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:36 Censor wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:22 Apollo_Shards wrote:
I dont want to get into any arguments but this is no way to show support for a guy who is down.

Yeah, seriously. Closing a fanclub is basically the most selfish thing you can do on an eSports website. Not only are you shitting on the player while he's in a slump, but you're fucking over his fans for no reason whatsoever.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:04 urasyupi2 wrote:
It doesn't matter as much as what you think of the fanclub as what other people think. What it TesteR came to the fanclub one day and saw this post? Like many people have said, it is very rude and immature to just remove a fanclub like that.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:23 HolyArrow wrote:
This is stupid. When you make a fanclub, it becomes a part of the TL community for fans of a player to congregate. In effect, it becomes a part of the community - it is not "your" fanclub, and the OP had absolutely no right to mess with it. The existence of a fanclub of a player should not just depend on how the OP feels about the player, and I especially cringe to think how Trickster would feel if he was aware of this fanclub, went on TL to check it out, and saw this complete and utter bitch move. Seriously. What OP did is just a glorified player-bash, a complete low-blow. How astoundingly reprehensible.



Closing the fanclub isn't meant to be a direct insult or "low blow" to Tester. I didn't want to be a part of it anymore, so I took down my post. Instead of moaning about how bad it is ANY one of you could go make a new fanclub.

I find it funny how you seem outraged at the fact that "fans no longer have a place to congregate". This post has gotten FIVE times more views in 3 days than it had in months. Honestly do you really think Tester believes that he deserves his own fanclub?



people arent outraged by that fact that there isnt a place on teamliquid to tribute tester anymore. its more the fact that someone would create a community fanclub and consider it an object that they own or belongs to them, rather than an object that belongs to the person that the fanclub was dedicated to/ the community.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 09 2011 03:42 GMT
#156
Can a mod please close this abortion of a thread? Holy shit.
Team SCV Life #1
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 03:47 GMT
#157
On September 09 2011 11:28 FishBones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 11:22 aaa wrote:
On September 09 2011 10:16 FishBones wrote:
Wow, pretty disappointing to see a fan open a fanclub of a player he's meant to be a fan of, then close it because the player doesn't perform to the expectation of the fan. Goes to show how fast some people turn from being a fan. The next step is becoming a hater because you're annoyed that the player isn't performing to your expectations. This sort of behaviour is what ruins e-sports. Why can't we just spread love?


Read the thread please before commenting moron.


Your expectation was for the player to practice, doesn't that mean that tester isn't meeting your expectations like I said? But name calling is cool too.


If you learned how to properly construct a post then maybe I wouldn't misunderstand you.

My expectations for him to practice..yes. I also explained my stance on that..if you read the thread. Being on a professional team living in a team house I feel like it is completely ridiculous for a player not to practice.



If you were a fan of a player who you found out was cheating in tournaments would you still be a fan of them? By your logic it would be pretty disappointing if you were no longer a fan of a player despite their cheating because they didn't live up to your expectation of not cheating.
Zyori.tv
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 03:56:24
September 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#158
On May 24 2011 11:04 aaa wrote:
In my opinion Tester is not a player of caliber to deserve his own fanclub so I am removing this post. If someone else wants to remake their own Tester fanclub feel free.



this thread needs to be closed...

Closing the fanclub isn't meant to be a direct insult or "low blow" to Tester. I didn't want to be a part of it anymore, so I took down my post. Instead of moaning about how bad it is ANY one of you could go make a new fanclub.

I find it funny how you seem outraged at the fact that "fans no longer have a place to congregate". This post has gotten FIVE times more views in 3 days than it had in months. Honestly do you really think Tester believes that he deserves his own fanclub?



People are mad because the message in the op is disrespectful, when it should be the opposite given that this is a fanclub. You could have just as easily deleted the original post, instead of adding in your two cents about what caliber player he is.
http://www.zyori.tv Twitter: @ZyoriTV
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
September 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#159
So can a mod close it and someone open another one or something? This guy's the reason I made a TL account so I could post to sign in the fan club.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
September 09 2011 04:05 GMT
#160
On September 09 2011 13:02 Polarexia wrote:
So can a mod close it and someone open another one or something? This guy's the reason I made a TL account so I could post to sign in the fan club.


Sorry to hear that man.

Couldn't the OP or some Mod just pass down thread rights to someone who cares? Content on the OP was pretty alright, shame to see it go away.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
September 09 2011 04:09 GMT
#161
I'm working on a new one right now. Please bare with me as I try to get it to the standards that Tester deserves.
Team SCV Life #1
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 04:16:46
September 09 2011 04:14 GMT
#162
holy shit. The OP is acting so childish. Fairweather fans should NOT make fan clubs to begin with. Case in point.

Hey OP while your at it don't forget to PM MC's fanclub owner to throw a hissy fit and take his down as well since he too got dropped down to code A
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
September 09 2011 04:16 GMT
#163
I was not part of this fanclub but I have followed the thread frequently. I'm still a huge fan of Ki Soo after last nights results. By your logic, MC should have his closed down too but that's still going.

Don't forget that Ki Soo shaped the way protoss was supposed to be played during the beta and the early phases of sc2 and because of that he deserves his own fan club. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the protoss greats atm studied the replays of Ki Soo to get to where they are so you editting out the op was definitely uncalled for.

When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
September 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#164
On September 09 2011 13:14 Doomwish wrote:
holy shit. The OP is acting so childish. Fairweather fans should NOT make fan clubs to begin with. Case in point.

Hey OP while your at it don't forget to PM MC's fanclub owner to throw a hissy fit and take his down as well since he too got dropped down to code A


Yet another retard who has not read the thread.
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 04:32:42
September 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#165
On September 09 2011 13:19 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 13:14 Doomwish wrote:
holy shit. The OP is acting so childish. Fairweather fans should NOT make fan clubs to begin with. Case in point.

Hey OP while your at it don't forget to PM MC's fanclub owner to throw a hissy fit and take his down as well since he too got dropped down to code A


Yet another retard who has not read the thread.


I am not retarded ....thanks tho. For proving my point that is.

Another basic point you seem to ignore is you have no evidence of his actual RECENT practice schedule other than some offhanded comments by his EX coach, among other random forum fodder/gossip.

Regardless of what your opinion of Tester is. You completely mishandled this. If you were honest about not wanting to stir up crap and throw a tantrum about a player your disappointed in, you would just PM a mod to close the thread for you.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
September 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#166
WTF? Why would you remove Tester's fun club? That's messed up, OP, really. What kind of a fan were you in the first place?
Zyori.tv
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States770 Posts
September 09 2011 04:53 GMT
#167
On September 09 2011 13:42 Reasonable wrote:
WTF? Why would you remove Tester's fun club? That's messed up, OP, really. What kind of a fan were you in the first place?


I'm sure all 34 of his posts were filled with quality and sincerity.
http://www.zyori.tv Twitter: @ZyoriTV
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
September 09 2011 04:59 GMT
#168
On September 09 2011 13:19 aaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 13:14 Doomwish wrote:
holy shit. The OP is acting so childish. Fairweather fans should NOT make fan clubs to begin with. Case in point.

Hey OP while your at it don't forget to PM MC's fanclub owner to throw a hissy fit and take his down as well since he too got dropped down to code A


Yet another retard who has not read the thread.

So you remove this thread because he has been playing poorly? What a joke.
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
September 09 2011 05:05 GMT
#169
Wow what a fucking baby, IMO should be banned.

wayy too many 'haters' in the community that just rip on players that are in a slump like tester or iNc. Gold trash that can't get their satisfaction through sc2 so they do it on forums / chat instead.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
September 09 2011 05:17 GMT
#170
Reality check to aaa: Your thoughts and feelings about Trickster aren't the only ones that matter. I really could care less about your reasons...what's done is done, but you're defending yourself over petty differences and failing to acknowledge the fact that you've made a lot of people angry, with one exception: your suggestion that someone else make a fan club. It's a good thing you deleted all of that content in your OP, lest someone have a starting point.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 09 2011 05:22 GMT
#171
While I think that the OP deserves some kind of punishment, I think everyone should stop posting here and start posting in the new Trickster fan thread.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#172
It appears this thread has run it's course.
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