EPTEG launch $10,000 Master's Cup Series League - Page 39
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Flying_Cake
Canada117 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:03 CryMeAReaper wrote: Im just a random forum poster and i do not know enough to give an educated suggestion. However, i feel like organisers SHOULD pay attention to the bigger EU cups, as they have fierce competition, and its not just "couple of good players, 1 top player, the top gets 1st, some semi-good gets 2-4", its: Semi-final 1: BratOK vs Kas Semi-final 2: Tarson vs Stephano its like a MLG finals every weekend (match up wise) and that should be taken into consideration. In your example you forget that when EU-people like us see the players in tournaments like Go4SC2 we go "WOW why is Go4SC2 always so stacked?" While NA-people might go "what the hell is this? Are these people even players?" Exhibit A being that Kas was considered an unknown in TSL when he obviously is a beast. They don't have to look far to see what the Empire line-up is capable of even if they can't follow the scene. If they check the tournament roundup someone has already done the work for them and summarised it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218463 Medal Podium, topdogs/honorable mentions are pretty Empire-heavy. Empire is not the same team they were in GCPL. Also my opinion is that all invite only tournaments are seriously flawed. Beastly players gets snubbed all the time. Even if they where made by someone with superb grasp on all the scenes it still wouldn't be great but highly subjective. There should always be a place for qualifiers. One of the reasons I feel TSL3 is the best foreign tournament in player quality to date is their extensive qualifiers. Making sure the best players got their chance to play. Obviously I don't expect every tournament to be able to put in that kind of work, but zero qualifiers is just crazy. | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:40 Sipher wrote: Dude, did you completely ignore my last sentence!?! I am a big fan of Empire. Happy is a beast, as is Kas and Nerchio. Beastyqt has been a rising player in my books. My statement was meant as a generality, and not directed at Empire players. Perhaps I should have clarified that as well. And I agree about Sixjax, I can't stand Major/Princess/whatever the heck he is; I dunno I was a fan when they picked up Artosis, and I like dde. But once they picked that kid up, it's an auto "un-fan" from me. ah, u talked about Empire in the first part of ur post, so i assumed that u were also commenting on the team. | ||
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:47 CryMeAReaper wrote: ah, u talked about Empire in the first part of ur post, so i assumed that u were also commenting on the team. You weren't the only one. It makes me think my wording was shoddy. So to the people above who thought I was comparing Combatex and Happy: I was not at all making that comparison. I was using Combatex as an example of someone at the top of the ladder who is not considered very skillful compared to others in the top of the ladder. Ya'll need to calm down, and read posts properly, and not stop at the point where you see something you disagree with and auto-reply. | ||
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Mabius
Canada323 Posts
Can you at least make a separate thread to discuss all of this useless information and then keep this thread clean for people who may have questions about the actual tournament. I understand that your Team is at the heart of the discussion but as HotBid has said numerous times that TEAMLIQUID the site is not the same as Teamliquid the team.. So, in my opinion, if objectivity is really cherished on teamliquid I request that the moderators should use the excellent moderation they have always shown in the past to effectively warn people to stop fanning the flames and move on to discussing this exciting league and not a flame war between the respective members of clans. At least maybe point to a different thread to discuss the actual liquid not being accommodated for so people who don't want to wade through 30+ pages of content that isn't directly about details for this league don't suffer. Thanks.. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45078 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Eurekastreet
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:54 Zlasher wrote: Axslav+Strifecro hwaitingggg 2v2 beasts Cannot agree more! Hope to see some old WC3-like 2v2 ownage :D | ||
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, .... in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only. Blizzard, look what you have done? I am looking forward to the 2v2 games. | ||
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felizuno
United States164 Posts
1) Players want to win $, so skipping any tournament is a negative. I think it’s been made abundantly clear that TL decided as a group not to participate in this event over an issue they think is important. It’s not a “fuck EG” attitude- if the same league with the same rules/prizes were started by AMD or PCGamer they would have taken the same ideological stand. This is a protest in support of what they consider better server rules. They have even put their money where their mouth is by running their own tournament by the rules they are suggesting. 2) There is no motive for EG to snuff TL. In fact, it would be better for EG if TL participated. TL players have fans and, while a lot of those people will watch anyways, they would still be more likely watch if their “favorite” players are involved. This is true for ALL teams, I’m not trying to say that TL are the coolest kids in school and everybody loves them. All teams come with fans and the goal is to have as many viewers as possible. EG (Idra aside) is obviously too professional to get in a pissing contest with TL. TLDR) It’s not like EG made the rules knowing that TL would not agree to them, and it’s equally preposterous to assume that TL was waiting for an EG event just to flame the shit out of it. I read the whole announcement thread and not once did I see Nazgul or SirScoots spiting eachother. Seriously, the real world is not as dramatic and contentious as the TV makes it out to be. People need to stop trying to create a feud that doesn’t exist. I really look forward to this league, I’ve been wanting to see more 2v2 in SC2 and I think one game in a team match is preferable to a dedicated 2v2 tourney. I liked that in BW 2v2 gave you the opportunity to see lesser known players show their skills. Think, you can’t get on a team without being next-level good, but only one player can be the ace. This means there is a lot of talent on team rosters that hasn’t been able to shine until now. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:42 Sipher wrote: Well, that was your problem. You stopped reading. If you had kept reading you would have seen that I was saying that as a generality and not applying it to Empire. I am a big fan of the team, and I believe their talent pool is huge. So please, next READ MORE! I just get annoyed when people choose to ignore what I type. You did not deny comparing Combat-EX with Happy and Nerchio though.. why would anyone pay attention to what you write after giving such a horrible analogy? | ||
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Warlike Prince
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:17 Xeris wrote: Going to be hard to top EG .. Axslav and Strifecro are basically the only actual 2v2 team (actually I think Mouz has one?) dignitas uses sjow + select, they've played all their 2v2 matches togather I think. But yea, axslav + strifcro is probobly the most comfortable 2v2 duo in this league. (if MyM doesn't get testie to play with mondragon, then noone can stand a chance) | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:54 Zlasher wrote: Axslav+Strifecro hwaitingggg 2v2 beasts seriously. I know not everyone followed War3 but these guys were constantly spoiling heavy favorites and overall running a muck in the War3 scene with their 2v2 prowess. I still have my replays of one of the last Axslav/Strifecro vs Grubby/Happy sets. It was incredible. I eagerly await seeing them back in action for sc2. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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Fly players between continents. I think the best world-wide invitational tournament was actually Dreamhack where people were flown in. The money could come from:
Please let me expound on "specific sponsors", I've organized some non-Starcraft tournaments and airlines and other major companies are often happy to support a tournament by giving money to fly people to the tournament. Airlines gives discount vouchers, travel companies often pay for the entire thing. I'd recommend future tournament organizers, and this includes TSL organizers to investigate this option. As a tournament viewer, I prefer to watch good games over big names and thus prefer all games to be played on one server, and in one room, when possible. Looking forward to the tournament, the casting and the 2v2! P.S. Shoutout to HotBid for being the nicest poster in this thread. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:23 Ghanburighan wrote: Ok, I admit I only managed to read through 25 of the currently 39 pages of arguments. Here's one suggestion that I did not see anywhere in those 25 pages: Fly players between continents. I think the best world-wide invitational tournament was actually Dreamhack where people were flown in. The money could come from:
Please let me expound on "specific sponsors", I've organized some non-Starcraft tournaments and airlines and other major companies are often happy to support a tournament by giving money to fly people to the tournament. Airlines gives discount vouchers, travel companies often pay for the entire thing. I'd recommend future tournament organizers, and this includes TSL organizers to investigate this option. As a tournament viewer, I prefer to watch good games over big names and thus prefer all games to be played on one server, and in one room, when possible. Looking forward to the tournament, the casting and the 2v2! P.S. Shoutout to HotBid for being the nicest poster in this thread. Someone mentioned it before - as this is a league and would be more than just one game, it would be cost inefficient to fly players back and forth multiple times due to their obligations. | ||
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