• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:11
CEST 06:11
KST 13:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?130Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Broodwar Prediction Market Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9624 users

Who is currently the Zerg King? - Page 7

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 83 Next
GGPope
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia367 Posts
April 22 2011 06:26 GMT
#121
I think if Spanishiwa practises and makes a good name for himself, he might not inherit the throne, but he'll certainly polish it up for whoever's sitting on it at the moment.

The best zerg at the moment is probably NesTea, all things considered. But even he's finding it a tad tricky to deal with some of the protoss play of late, it seems.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 22 2011 06:28 GMT
#122
I wish Mondragon played in public more. Despite his supposed lack of practice, his games in the TSL have shown that he is an RTS master who needs no practice to blow us away. Furthermore, I heard that he claimed to have "solved" the Protoss deathball sometime after his matches against Cruncher, and I really want to see his solution in action.

Mondragon may not be the Zerg king, but his potential is fucking sky high. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be in the mood to get too deep into pro gaming atm, which is a shame since he is extremely talented even with supposedly little preparation.

If only more Zergs played like Mondragon...
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#123
On April 22 2011 15:05 holynorth wrote:
Wait, so how are people justifying Idra over Nestea?

Nevermind. It appears this is actually a "Who is your favorite zerg player?" thread.


Well, Nestea seems to be struggling recently, and we don't know much about his play against foreigners. As good as the GSL players are, it's a small pool.

And in the GSL world tournament, you can see that Koreans might be vulnerable to foreign styles of play.

IdrA hasn't had a big win recently, but he consistently places well. And after watching his stream recently, I really think him and Dimaga are close to getting over 'the hump'. They both seemed to plateau for a while but I think their play is starting to get even stronger.

It's just a gut feeling though. I still think Nestea is the best, based purely on accomplishments, but IdrA and Dimaga are not as far behind as people think.
Raigeki
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong207 Posts
April 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#124
Sen cause his account name is Zergking
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 22 2011 06:33 GMT
#125
No one has mastered this race yet, and almost every pro Zerg is inconsistent, the race needs some goddamn tweaking.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 22 2011 06:34 GMT
#126
This forum is getting more and more amazing every day I check it out. I might marry it in the near future.
Awesome write-up. Very well written. I like the style that you use, it is entertaining.

My vote goes to Losira at this point. He is not the King yet, but he is a prince. If he can control his units a bit better and polish his strategies a bit better I think he will be crowned soonish.
I had a good night of sleep.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 06:39:39
April 22 2011 06:37 GMT
#127
On April 22 2011 15:28 eviltomahawk wrote:
I wish Mondragon played in public more. Despite his supposed lack of practice, his games in the TSL have shown that he is an RTS master who needs no practice to blow us away. Furthermore, I heard that he claimed to have "solved" the Protoss deathball sometime after his matches against Cruncher, and I really want to see his solution in action.

Mondragon may not be the Zerg king, but his potential is fucking sky high. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be in the mood to get too deep into pro gaming atm, which is a shame since he is extremely talented even with supposedly little preparation.

If only more Zergs played like Mondragon...

He hasn't solved ZvP Just "solved" deathball type plays that Cruncher does. Getting 10+ infestors tends to shut that down pretty fast. But Protoss is changing as mass infestor play is starting to pick up, 6-7 Colossus deathballs are no longer, the new 2/3Colossus->immortal/Templar->Voidrays/Mothership seems to be the way to go. Hopefully we will see Carriers soon
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 06:43:29
April 22 2011 06:37 GMT
#128
NesTea of course, then LosirA and July.

excluding the koreans, FXOSheth, DIMAGA and IdrA seem to be at the top
RogueStatus
Profile Joined August 2010
266 Posts
April 22 2011 06:38 GMT
#129
FXOSheth
Ryze
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada234 Posts
April 22 2011 06:40 GMT
#130
Losira shows some promise! :o
www.twitch.tv/colryze twitter.com/colryze acelessons.com/lessons/colryze/
Whispers
Profile Joined March 2011
United States9 Posts
April 22 2011 06:44 GMT
#131
Half the posts here are just blatant fan-boyism. I'm for empirical results.

Who's won the most

1) High Profile Tournaments

2) Money

I can tell you you flat out who the best player in the world is. It's MC. Now apply that formula to a Zerg player and who do you get. Problem solved.

Don't bring up players who stream and have viewers, I want players who WIN.

B/c no one gives a shit as long as you're a winner.
CapnCDaWg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States179 Posts
April 22 2011 06:47 GMT
#132
IdrA > Losira > Nestea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darkzler
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden58 Posts
April 22 2011 06:48 GMT
#133
I'd say it's July now, especially since his triumph at the world games. What did he get, like 5-1?
Play hard, go pro!
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 06:49:00
April 22 2011 06:48 GMT
#134


His control groups aren't very good, he has like 2 hotkeys for his army which are like 5/6,if you watch his stream he tends to move infestors into the middle of the fight an get them killed. This is not a good thing since ZvP is starting to lean heavily on Infestor-Roach/Ling-BanelingDrops and army control actually matters since you no longer 1-a Roach/Hydra and hope for the best. His games against Axslav you could see it really hurting him in engagements, losing nearly every infestor every fight :/

Generally when you are set up poorly to handle something like that, you have to change how you play, changing hotkeys, getting use to multiple unit groups, etc and when that happens you tend to get worse before you get better.


Sheth might become really scary once he cleans up his play a bit (compared to other pro zergs that is, the guy is already a monster), better control groups and unit control like you hinted for exemple. He already has incredible game sense and watching him play is impressive.
SlipperySnake
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
248 Posts
April 22 2011 06:51 GMT
#135
The zerg I have been most impressed by recently is Sheth. He seems to be working with a more aggressive style that uses every single possible unit and upgrade. I think with the revolution that is currently going on for zerg players a new king is forthcoming. The idea that zerg players don't and shouldn't just be passive but should use drops and nydus and burrow means that the new zerg kind will need to be a master of pressure.
andrewwiggin
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia435 Posts
April 22 2011 06:51 GMT
#136
Yeah, I agree with most people that right now, there are good zerg players, great zerg players..

but no zerg king.


can't wait for some truly incredible zerg player to show up and just own. =)
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 22 2011 06:51 GMT
#137
July.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
April 22 2011 06:52 GMT
#138
On April 22 2011 15:44 Whispers wrote:
Half the posts here are just blatant fan-boyism. I'm for empirical results.

Who's won the most

1) High Profile Tournaments

2) Money

I can tell you you flat out who the best player in the world is. It's MC. Now apply that formula to a Zerg player and who do you get. Problem solved.

Don't bring up players who stream and have viewers, I want players who WIN.

B/c no one gives a shit as long as you're a winner.



So who is it?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
April 22 2011 06:52 GMT
#139
Idra = Nesta = July > Rest. It's hard to seperate those three in terms of skill.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
April 22 2011 06:53 GMT
#140
Lol at fanboys saying Idra.

Still Nestea...
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 83 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:30
Best Games of GSTL
PiGStarcraft601
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft601
RuFF_SC2 198
Nina 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Shinee 20
yabsab 19
Terrorterran 12
Icarus 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm147
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 609
Counter-Strike
taco 369
minikerr60
Other Games
summit1g9301
C9.Mang0182
ViBE160
Hui .10
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 83
• Adnapsc2 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21936
League of Legends
• Lourlo969
• Stunt243
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 49m
WardiTV Invitational
6h 49m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
AI Arena Tournament
12h 49m
OSC
16h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 6h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 10h
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 11h
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
1d 14h
IdrA vs MC
Replay Cast
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.