EPTi think best toss is Ace.
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
i think best toss is Ace. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:04 j4vz wrote: i think the crown is still empty for now, you should make another thread for terran and toss imo. i think best toss is Ace. I love Ace, but no. The guy can't even get past ro32 in Code-A. | ||
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:21 obsKura wrote: you missed Spanishiwa :D I picked around from the TLPD ELO rankings for INT and KR. He needs to play a tournament/get on the TLPD first. | ||
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zala2023
United States228 Posts
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j3i
United States357 Posts
On May 02 2011 07:39 Horse...falcon wrote: So lets do it Shakespeare style Nestea: King Hamlet/Ghost (King, just died) Losira: Hamlet (son of the King) July: Claudius (Brother of the King, now in power after the King's death) Fruitdealer: Dunno, King's wife? Idra: Lets call him Horatio, don't ask why Or Lion King Nestea: Mufasa Losira: Simba July: Scar Fruitdealer: Rafiki Idra: Hyenas Love it simply brilliant. Especially the hyenas for Idra. After all, he fulfills the role of both fearsome opponent and comic relief. | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On May 02 2011 07:53 Pandain wrote: And he chose to pull all workers, (therefore of course making spines), and all in Nes Tea. Just like how Rain is so much better than Nes Tea because of the series where he marine scv all in'd him and won. It's viable to allin zerg if they go hatch first and it's close positions. I haven't seen the games in question, but Rain is better in the instance where he won. MC was very confident in his proxy 2 gate vs White Ra in the finals of dreamhack 2-2. You can tell me all you want White Ra is better, but MC is the one walking away with first place. 10 pool as far as I'm aware is the only thing close to hard countering hatch first, and if I'm remembering correctly dimaga said that the spines essentially are a ticking time bomb. It puts the pressure on the other zerg, forces them to make a choice: attack the spines or don't, and if they don't for too long they finish and their chances of winning drop significantly if not completely. | ||
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DivineSC
United States128 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On May 02 2011 07:53 Pandain wrote: And he chose to pull all workers, (therefore of course making spines), and all in Nes Tea. Just like how Rain is so much better than Nes Tea because of the series where he marine scv all in'd him and won. He did that all-in because Nestea went blind hatch first every game (no done scout at all). It's super greedy and eventually you get punished for it, it was very calculated. | ||
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OwlHarris
United States53 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On May 02 2011 10:41 DivineSC wrote: I think IdrA's accomplishment's can be updated on the OP .Done | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:21 obsKura wrote: you missed Spanishiwa :D You serious? He's fun to watch and creative but his mechanics aren't even close to the listed players. | ||
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Pithore
Canada19 Posts
IdrA and Zenio matches in NASL tonight...both amazing. More burrowed bannys pls! | ||
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KaidaN
Australia54 Posts
IdrA 3-0 in NASL and winning IPL season 1 gives IdrA some credit in recent games | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On May 02 2011 09:35 manicshock wrote: It's viable to allin zerg if they go hatch first and it's close positions. I haven't seen the games in question, but Rain is better in the instance where he won. MC was very confident in his proxy 2 gate vs White Ra in the finals of dreamhack 2-2. You can tell me all you want White Ra is better, but MC is the one walking away with first place. 10 pool as far as I'm aware is the only thing close to hard countering hatch first, and if I'm remembering correctly dimaga said that the spines essentially are a ticking time bomb. It puts the pressure on the other zerg, forces them to make a choice: attack the spines or don't, and if they don't for too long they finish and their chances of winning drop significantly if not completely. I'm not debating whether cheesing is good or not, I'm saying it doesn't show true skill. The point I'm making is that just like Nes Tea is better than Rain, he's also better than Dimaga. He lost the series because he lost to Dimaga once in a "true" game, and lost one game because of build order loss. Disregarding that, Nes Tea has been 2-1 vs Dimaga, has shown more tournament results, and has performed I feel much better than Dimaga. On May 02 2011 10:47 hugman wrote: He did that all-in because Nestea went blind hatch first every game (no done scout at all). It's super greedy and eventually you get punished for it, it was very calculated. Usually (especially on 2 player maps) you don't drone scout in ZvZ.. 15 hatch isn't super greedy, it's just the macro-focused playstyle of ZvZ. 16 hatch would be greedy, 15 hatch is standard. Of course it was caluculated, Nes Tea likes to play macro games. Of course it worked, it's almost a hard counter. Does it show he's better than Nes Tea? Definitely not. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On May 02 2011 05:11 Blasphemi wrote: Idra won MLG DC all the way back in October. His best GSL place was the Ro8 (which Losira will at least match this month). Not only was MLG DC an eternity ago in SC2 terms the player pool was in my opinion considerably weaker than March Code A. The IPL will be the first time since DC that Idra has finished top three in any meaningful tournament Korean or Foreigner. At this stage Losira is well ahead of Idra in terms of relevant success. code A is just a qualifier tournament for code S and winning that isn't all that prestigious. While Losira was working hard on even qualifying into GSL, idra qualified every time and was never eliminated in the first round. Far more impressive than qualifying on his fifth attempt and winning the qualifier tournament. Of course, Losira might even win this time, but that remains to be seen and his path to RO4 is relatively easy. Feel free to believe failing to qualify for 7 months (?) and then making one good run is impressive. | ||
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Kommissar
Australia48 Posts
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AmunEli
United States35 Posts
I would give Dimaga the edge in Europe. The best Korean/(Or other Asian country) Zerg has yet to be established. Nestea is the one with the most recent accomplishments but has really fallen back with the pack lately. If a Zerg wins GSL, then they are the best Zerg in the world hands down. If none of them end up competing in the finals, then they have to compete with Idra and Dimaga for the crown. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On May 02 2011 14:54 AmunEli wrote: Idra is clearly the best North American Zerg. I would give Dimaga the edge in Europe. The best Korean/(Or other Asian country) Zerg has yet to be established. Nestea is the one with the most recent accomplishments but has really fallen back with the pack lately. If a Zerg wins GSL, then they are the best Zerg in the world hands down. If none of them end up competing in the finals, then they have to compete with Idra and Dimaga for the crown. so why do they have to win the most prestigious starcraft 2 tournament in the world to compete with people who haven't even been past the ro8? | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 02 2011 14:54 AmunEli wrote: Idra is clearly the best North American Zerg. I would give Dimaga the edge in Europe. The best Korean/(Or other Asian country) Zerg has yet to be established. Nestea is the one with the most recent accomplishments but has really fallen back with the pack lately. If a Zerg wins GSL, then they are the best Zerg in the world hands down. If none of them end up competing in the finals, then they have to compete with Idra and Dimaga for the crown. You are making no sense. Why does a korean need to exactly WIN gsl to stand above idra or dimaga? i can discuss that the finals for the GSL alone is higher then those 2 get simply because the GSL has the the better players compared to other events. | ||
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. I'm saying 10 pooling him doesn't really count as "firuging out builds to beat him specifically on specific maps." I think what Sarens did vs Idra back in Beta counts as that, but this doesn't. 
