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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 08 2011 14:33 GMT
#1
Maybe it is because the new season. Maybe I am just playing against that minority that doesn’t gg. Or maybe people don’t gg anymore.

I am curious here. I have played multiple ladder games and much more custom games in season 2. And I think that only 40% of my wins the opponent types gg.
It is not that it bothers me a great deal, but it leaves a bad taste after a game. I also add that I rarely cheese, only ZvP on 2 maps.

I guess my biggest problem is that a game mentally ends for me when the opponent types gg. I completely relax and I am happy, when they just leave it doesn't feel the same. I don't know, it is probably overreacting on my part. But I don't see myself leaving without typing gg, unless I react extremely bad against a cheese and am extremely mad on myself for playing bad, which makes me leave Bnet and turn of my computer.

Let’s be honest here and try to estimate how much you type gg after you lost. Give me a percentage with some additional information.

Is everybody experiencing the same? I am currently around world rank 6000 in masters and without kidding a maximum of 40% type gg before they leave.
I had a good night of sleep.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
April 08 2011 14:34 GMT
#2
There has been hundreds of threads on this, use the search function yo.

Never gg.
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Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
April 08 2011 14:36 GMT
#3
I just let my opponent type it for me while they're destroying my world.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
April 08 2011 14:36 GMT
#4
There is no rule that you have to gg. Get over it...

Period.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 08 2011 14:37 GMT
#5
On April 08 2011 23:34 Megaliskuu wrote:
There has been hundreds of threads on this, use the search function yo.

Never gg.


Can you give me one that isn't 2 months old and it about this specific? I typed in gg in the search bar and it wasn't really a succes.

Why would you never gg?
I had a good night of sleep.
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
April 08 2011 14:37 GMT
#6
I'm there with you...I never get GGs from anyone anymore I still gg....it's just a common courtesy, concede to whoever beat you.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#7
do as my irl friend does when he is about to win

"you can gg now"

he is so BM <3
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
April 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#8
it`s a manner thing ... some folks will never get it.
keep it deep! @zulison
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#9
I used to always GG out of every single game (apart from cannon rushes/weird proxy things, and sometimes even those if I'm in a good mood). Recently I've switched to zerg, and I often get really really frustrated with my losses (no balance whine, just saying I should be able to hold certain strats). I now rarely gg before I surrender, unless I genuinely thought it was a gg or if again, I'm in a good mood.

I just get too frustrated autolosing to stuff like 2port banshee, 4gate or 6gate because I didn't scout well enough or built like 1 round of drones too many. I do always gl hf before the game. It's not meant as ragequit or as insult to whatever build the opponent did, I just get too frustrated with myself losing to that stuff to gg.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 08 2011 14:39 GMT
#10
I only GG if it was actually a good game. 4gates, spine rushes, bunker rushes can all go to hell.
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:40:45
April 08 2011 14:39 GMT
#11
I don't say GG when I leave, usually because I get pretty ticked off when I lose, since I know I'm the one messing everything up. I leave before I have the chance to BM my opponent, opening a chat box makes me want to type BM 90% of the time when I lose. Nothing bad like cussing the other guy out or whatever, just usually passive-agressive stuff.

Altogether I probably type GG 10% of the time. Usually if a game is close, I'll type it, but if I'm supply blocking myself around every corner, miscontrolling my units, etc. I won't type it.

Now, whenever I play other people, they might type GG 50% of the time, with 10% of the time being BM and 40% just being straight up quitting. I haven't noticed a difference between the beta/release and now, though. Maybe it's just you?

Oh, and I usually GG to cheese. Weird, I know. Just saying.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 08 2011 14:39 GMT
#12
Pretty much yeah. Still not cool though. Even if it's a ladder that doesn't mean you don't have to type out.
But yeah, no biggie just get over it.
I always type out, except sometimes when i'm playing so badly that i just ragequit simple as that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
April 08 2011 14:40 GMT
#13
typed glhf to this zerg guy once and he lol's asking me if i'm trying to be nestea blah blah
in the end he he wins and i GG

too many egotistical pricks in the lower end ladders tbh I always glhf and gg even if it's a bad loss =/
Seta
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden19 Posts
April 08 2011 14:40 GMT
#14
noticed it too none ever types gg anymore (including myself) in masters which was alot different from when it was beta.
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
April 08 2011 14:40 GMT
#15
5% of the time.
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Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
April 08 2011 14:41 GMT
#16
I type gg 90% of the time when I leave, sometimes when im getting tired and ends up in a loss streak, I often just ragequit the last one without gg, but otherwise always.
"Choose life!"
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
April 08 2011 14:41 GMT
#17
I haven't gotten a gg in a verry long time. I don't play many games, so it is quite memorable. I really don't care though, in fact one might say it is a confidence booster. You destroyed them so hard they rage quit. ^^ I jest..
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
April 08 2011 14:41 GMT
#18
If the game was good then I GG, if it was just me messing up I don't see a reason to GG.
KMom
Profile Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
April 08 2011 14:42 GMT
#19
I gg if I think it was a good game. About 80% of the time I'll do it, but if I played awfully or the game was very one sided, then I won't. I don't believe in gging just for the sake of being "manner". To me, it takes the meaning out of the phrase if I just use it all the time even if the game is bad - to the point that I don't really think it's good mannered if you use it that way.
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
April 08 2011 14:43 GMT
#20
Hell most ladder games I just get flamed as soon as it starts. "GL HF" has been replaced with "Fuck you newb" as the start up greeting it seems.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#21
People, myself included, have stoped even writing to eachother ingame. There's no gl hf, and no gg in the end. Battle.net is so nonpersonal you might as well be playing against bots. I don't feel the need to gg and I don't blame my opponent for not doing it.
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
April 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#22
theres no point for GG in ladder, thats my view on it. You lose, you get out and go into the next game right away (or analyze the replay right away)..

GG is for tournaments or events.. but generally I dont gg in ladder unless I know the opponent and/or want to chat with him afterwards about the game.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
April 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#23
I only GG when it was actually a good game. If I get cheesed or lose due to my own mess up I don't say GG because more than likely they didn't play one.
Got that.
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
April 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#24
I GG 85% of my games, I dont mind if you GG or not but IF you GG before me when you are winning....I hope you burn...
AoD
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
April 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#25
I gg after a game involving macro/micro, i don't when someone cheese me.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#26
I only GG Zerg and Terran players if I don't get all ined (if I do I just leave). Protoss I either leave or BM lol, too frustrated playing ZvP atm =/.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#27
On April 08 2011 23:38 zul wrote:
it`s a manner thing ... some folks will never get it.


Some people like Marcus420 think that there has to be a rule to enfore everything... I still GG... sometimes lol
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
April 08 2011 14:46 GMT
#28
if it was a good game i gg, but i always glhf.

Seems 70% of people won't even respond to my glhf though or will bm me instead ;\
Lipski
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland373 Posts
April 08 2011 14:46 GMT
#29
i don't care if opponent ggs, and i won't gg either, unless game was really good, regardless if i won or lost.
"i'll just train hard and win the next one"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#30
On April 08 2011 23:43 Irrelevant wrote:
Hell most ladder games I just get flamed as soon as it starts. "GL HF" has been replaced with "Fuck you newb" as the start up greeting it seems.

Well, that didn't happen yet. When that happens more than 5% of the time I might cry a little...

So many people that don't gg anymore it seems. Sadness.

On a positive note (after reading all these comments), it seems that people still hf gl in the start.
I had a good night of sleep.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
April 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#31
too many games in sc2 turn out so retarded that they just dont deserve a gg
ZoneofEnders
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada71 Posts
April 08 2011 14:48 GMT
#32
I say gg just as much for myself as my opponent. Helps me realize that whatever he did was fair and I should get over it and accept the loss. Also I just prefer to be manner.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 08 2011 14:48 GMT
#33
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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:57:36
April 08 2011 14:48 GMT
#34
I hadn't really noticed until you brought it up, but yeah, I have been getting fewer of them.

Also, I've been getting more "#*&@^ you"s whenever I start the game with gl hf. ... don't know what to say about that.

Oh, and getting told to get AIDS and die is a more common occurrence as well. :/

Masters level too... left season 1 at ~ 3k points
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
April 08 2011 14:48 GMT
#35
On April 08 2011 23:45 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 23:38 zul wrote:
it`s a manner thing ... some folks will never get it.


Some people like Marcus420 think that there has to be a rule to enfore everything... I still GG... sometimes lol

i gg if the other player is manner starting with glhf and such. I never said i don't. I just don't nderstand how emotional someone can get if the other player doesnt gg before they left. Just...get over it because there is nothing saying you HAVE too.
qdenser
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:49:41
April 08 2011 14:48 GMT
#36
lol sounds like BGH, why are people so mean in team games ><

meant to quote the guy who said people just start cussing you out at the start...ah well
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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:51:51
April 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#37
if I get seriosuly outplayed and i know the was ntohing I could do I will gg, if I lose because I know already it was all my fault then dont expect a gg, ill be so pissed off with myself. And if soemone does a 4 gate or some other cheese and says gg before the end, then expect abuse and a block cummunication after.

Live and Let Die!
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#38
I recently decided to test something.
I always gl hf at the beginning of every game and the opponent will gl hf or gl me back like 95% of the time.

However, I stopped gl hf 'ing to see what would happen. and only about 10% of people would gl hf at the beginning.

So all along I thought people were more mannered than they actually were; they were just humoring me!

gg is kind of a funny thing. If you 4gate (or some other kind of rush) them and kill them, they will gg a very small portion of the time; if they are zerg, they probably won't gg you because all of your units are imba xD
Some you hit on the ladder are just not going to GG you no matter what; if you beat the same guy a couple of times over the course of a few weeks/month/what have you, he might resent you and it somehow becomes a personal thing. SC2 is a funny thing
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Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#39
I don't GG unless it was a game I felt I played the best I could and lost.

4 gate. 6 gate. proxies. 2 base timing attacks. ling baneling all in. all too frustrating and I just want to move on to the next one. If I had a 30 minute macro game where he dropped me i dropped him he attacks i counter we expand all over i always gg
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#40
"sorry" if i played really awful, "g" if I am unhappy with my performance or feel like he doesn't deserve it hehe. otherwise a "gg". If i thing the game was epic i tend to make a supply GG xD. (the one you can see on the minimap ^.^ )

you can almost be sure that you don't get anything except bad manner, if the person doesn't say anything at the start.
Neino
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway295 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#41
I gg about 50% of the time.
I'm rather easily pissed off about performing badly or losing to some bullshit i absolutely should not lose to. (Canon rushes, early roach pushes, defending a 4gate then managing to lose the pvp etc)

I GG if i felt i played pretty well, and still got beaten, so my opponent clearly played better.
I gg if we had a friendly conversation up ahead, meaning I know the guy is a nice person, who deserve a gg :p

I do not gg when people do agressive gg's or say something rude in general.

Master league if that matters
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#42
On April 08 2011 23:48 ensign_lee wrote:
I hadn't really noticed until you brought it up, but yeah, I have been getting fewer of them.

Also, I've been getting more "#*&@^ you"s whenever I start the game with gl hf. ... don't know what to say about that.

Oh, and getting told to get AIDS and die is a more common occurrence as well. :/


Well, this is sad. How come people got like this? Unbelievable. I never had this. Oh boy.. In which league is this? Can people start writing down in which league they are?
I had a good night of sleep.
Jandos
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Czech Republic928 Posts
April 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#43
Ladder is full of bm people, who response "f*ck you" on your GL HF. I almost never GG there.
Of course always gg in games with friends/tournaments.
mintiefresh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#44
pretty much gg all the time. win/lose with class.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#45
On April 08 2011 23:33 Koshi wrote:
Maybe it is because the new season. Maybe I am just playing against that minority that doesn’t gg. Or maybe people don’t gg anymore.

I am curious here. I have played multiple ladder games and much more custom games in season 2. And I think that only 40% of my wins the opponent types gg.
It is not that it bothers me a great deal, but it leaves a bad taste after a game. I also add that I rarely cheese, only ZvP on 2 maps.

I guess my biggest problem is that a game mentally ends for me when the opponent types gg. I completely relax and I am happy, when they just leave it doesn't feel the same. I don't know, it is probably overreacting on my part. But I don't see myself leaving without typing gg, unless I react extremely bad against a cheese and am extremely mad on myself for playing bad, which makes me leave Bnet and turn of my computer.

Let’s be honest here and try to estimate how much you type gg after you lost. Give me a percentage with some additional information.

Is everybody experiencing the same? I am currently around world rank 6000 in masters and without kidding a maximum of 40% type gg before they leave.

Simple observation: why should one type "GG" when they found the game bad? I blatently type "BG" when I played horribly.
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
April 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#46
I'm a very nice loser when I've been genuinely beaten. I usually strike up a conversation and ask what I did wrong etc etc. Of course I end it with a gg.

But when I lose to stupid abusive builds I bm the whole time. Mass air (banshees or void rays) is especially infuriating, because if they catch you unprepared they get infinity kills.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:53:27
April 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#47
Honestly, I've gg'd every game I've lost except one. Against a guy named IKILLU, after I typed "glhf" he responded "fuck u," and he went hellion/marauder into cloaked banshee and won. I decided to leave that one without a gg.

But I have noticed the gg frequency going down. On the one hand, I would think people like to imitate what they see the players do in tournaments, where the loser gg'ing is standard. Then again, people would probably rather imitate the winner than the loser.

Partially I think it's the mindset that the laddering puts you in. The mass gaming just to be able to spend your bonus pool or whatever. And the fact that there are a lot of new players, who either don't know or understand why gg'ing is even done, or don't really care.

edit: also relevant, I almost never get a gg back when I do gg upon losing. I don't know if I leave too fast, but I don't think that's the case. I think gg is just fading out of use.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#48
why say gg when I can accuse people of cheating instead? xD
Meh.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#49
On April 08 2011 23:44 nkr wrote:
People, myself included, have stoped even writing to eachother ingame. There's no gl hf, and no gg in the end. Battle.net is so nonpersonal you might as well be playing against bots. I don't feel the need to gg and I don't blame my opponent for not doing it.

Perhaps because the battle.net laddering system leaves you free to play games against essentially anonymous people is all the more reason to say just a few words at the start and end of the game, to help combat this very feeling. It's to say that if others don't say anything, you won't say anything, since someone has to start, right?

I dislike it when people don't 'gg', as for me it cheapens the victory as I have to assume they ragequit because they played badly or something, which means my victory is something meaningless.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#50
On April 08 2011 23:48 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 23:45 GreEny K wrote:
On April 08 2011 23:38 zul wrote:
it`s a manner thing ... some folks will never get it.


Some people like Marcus420 think that there has to be a rule to enfore everything... I still GG... sometimes lol

i gg if the other player is manner starting with glhf and such. I never said i don't. I just don't nderstand how emotional someone can get if the other player doesnt gg before they left. Just...get over it because there is nothing saying you HAVE too.


Well, you starting a post with "Theres not rule that you have to, get over it" kinda makes one think so...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#51
Maybe they don't gg because to them, it wasn't a good game? More importantly, does it even matter?
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Xarwy
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway67 Posts
April 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#52
When I say GG I actually mean it. Almost no one means it when they say it. It's like people don't even realize it means "Good Game". So what's the point of saying gg just because people say gg? there's no reason unless you acually respect his game and think it was good. If I lose a macro game I will most likely give my opponnent a golden star, aka GG (unless he went for VR/colo TT). But if I get 4 gated and lose ofc I'm not gonna give the douche a gg.
buff zerg
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 08 2011 14:54 GMT
#53
Yup definitely noticed it. Seems like such a shame because on sc1, people are so mannered. ><"

I guess there's no point to typing gg but it's nice to be friendly and mannered.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:54:59
April 08 2011 14:54 GMT
#54
I forgot to say it once out of ~9 losses yesterday The people I win against don't GG very often, though
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:56:56
April 08 2011 14:54 GMT
#55
I don't gg on ladder.

Tournaments and LANS are another thing though. Why do people get so butt hurt when you don't GG on ladder?
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
April 08 2011 14:55 GMT
#56
I don't say GG if it wasn't a good game, plain and simple. Why be well mannered when you've got someone cheesing you? I think FU is a more appropriate response.
:P
RevaLution
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore68 Posts
April 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#57
I gg 90% of my games

most of my opponent just leave, resulting around only 30% of the players GG. From what i see, players from SEA tends to type gg more often after the games end. Well, the sample size is small so... yeah haha
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
April 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#58
just dont worry too much about it. Some people just don't like to GG. Nothing else to it.
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ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#59
Depends if it was a good game or if my opppnent deserves it
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Sebast1aan
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium163 Posts
April 08 2011 14:57 GMT
#60
I Say GG in every single game I play, even if the opponent cheeses me
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
April 08 2011 14:58 GMT
#61
People complaining about not getting a gg at the end, start saying gl hf in all of your games and people will say gg a lot more often!
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Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
April 08 2011 14:59 GMT
#62
I only gg if it is a good game. I always gl hf though
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 08 2011 14:59 GMT
#63
On April 08 2011 23:52 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe they don't gg because to them, it wasn't a good game? More importantly, does it even matter?

If only that was true, and that is the problem. I forgot to add this in the OP. But after a really good game against protoss. 4 Bases both and I went ling bling corrupter broodlord. A really action packed game. My opponent leaves without gg.

I typed to him why he thought it wasn't a gg, and back then I didn't even believed yet there were people that don't gg because there is no rule to gg...
He replies and curses me, telling me I was BM to message him...
I had a good night of sleep.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 08 2011 14:59 GMT
#64
On April 08 2011 23:50 Alejandrisha wrote:
I recently decided to test something.
I always gl hf at the beginning of every game and the opponent will gl hf or gl me back like 95% of the time.

However, I stopped gl hf 'ing to see what would happen. and only about 10% of people would gl hf at the beginning.

So all along I thought people were more mannered than they actually were; they were just humoring me!

gg is kind of a funny thing. If you 4gate (or some other kind of rush) them and kill them, they will gg a very small portion of the time; if they are zerg, they probably won't gg you because all of your units are imba xD
Some you hit on the ladder are just not going to GG you no matter what; if you beat the same guy a couple of times over the course of a few weeks/month/what have you, he might resent you and it somehow becomes a personal thing. SC2 is a funny thing


This is actually exactly what I've noticed too lol. I used to start each game with "gl hf" and I got it back as a response, but for some reason I've stopped doing it 100% of the time this season and I've noticed that there are lots of games where neither of us say a single word.
Grimmy
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa29 Posts
April 08 2011 15:00 GMT
#65
People add to much value to things like "GLHF" and "GG". I don't really make a point of GGing and don't expect ppl to GG when losing to me. I find it quite patronising expecting a GG from someone.

If a pro SC2 player leaves a game without GGing and you take a look at the comments, then its always about how BM'd the player is and not actually about the match that was just played. Manners don't make you play better. I like watching matches of players because they are skilled, not because they polite.

Manners don't make you play better.
Hamre
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark8 Posts
April 08 2011 15:01 GMT
#66
I always GGs if I don't get cheesed..
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
April 08 2011 15:01 GMT
#67
On April 08 2011 23:56 ReviLLuSion wrote:
Depends if it was a good game or if my opppnent deserves it


Good game has come to mean more than 'you played a good game of technical skill' its a concession. Like saying thank you when someone hands you something, you don't evaluate if they deserve it... you just say it.

Obviously you don't 'have' to say it but a lot of gamers will think you are BM... just like not saying thanks in RL, you dont have too but its polite.
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Nomadic
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:04:03
April 08 2011 15:02 GMT
#68
i never gg on ladder unless it was an actual good game, what i dont understand is why people care if i dont say gg in ladder :o in bw and wc3 i never said gg ever and i never got flamed in postgame chat after it... tbh when people are BM and harassing me/rubbing it in my face saying "why no gg?" after game then i am glad i didnt gg to some nerd. For some reason people think leaving without saying gg = rage, i dont care at all to write 2 meaningless letters and i dont care if my opponent doesnt gg and i dont assume he is angry either
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
April 08 2011 15:02 GMT
#69
When someone doesn't gg I get extra satisfaction out of their rage/frustration, it just makes victory even sweeter for me. So I make sure to never give that satisfaction to others, I always gg.
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legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
April 08 2011 15:03 GMT
#70
I think one of the conclusions from the previous threads on this same topic was that on the EU server people gg a lot less than on NA in comparison.
I also stopped doing manner gg and only rarely gg if I thought it was a good game.

As for the a possible explanation? I think in general, as the game is out longer everyone sort of starts to know why they lost and what they did wrong.
Realizing that probably makes it harder to gg because you feel you didn't play well at all considering your mistakes are painfully obvious.
So as time goes on and more people start to feel and act in this very manner, the quantity of ggs one can be expected to encounter diminishes gradually.


"never gg, never surrender"
DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:08:23
April 08 2011 15:03 GMT
#71
On April 08 2011 23:47 robih wrote:
too many games in sc2 turn out so retarded that they just dont deserve a gg


Yeah, kinda this.
I have reservations about glhf'ing these days because I'm basically going to get 4gated. Being cheesed or cannon rushed is kind of refreshing, something different.
Also I don't think anyone's really happy with the state of protoss right now. Get 6 colossi and win.

Personally I GG when i feel like the other guy earned it, even if it was just doing something small which I didn't expect. It does mean good game after all.

But people are rude... I had a terran spawn close positions on metal and he went CC first, but i didn't scout the cc so I assumed he was proxy rax'ing me so i went pool first, then I go to his natural and there's a cc building. (Which he started morphing to a PF)

Clearly I won, but he gave me some BM about "I have a 100% winrate using this build if I get the PF up. But on close positions i should've just gone and killed you."
I don't understand that, you did a stupid build which i scouted and reacted to. If he'd gone 1rax/cc it would've been a completely different game. (Told him after the game he should've built a barracks just so i didn't think he was proxying)
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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
April 08 2011 15:03 GMT
#72
On April 09 2011 00:02 BG1 wrote:
When someone doesn't gg I get extra satisfaction out of their rage/frustration, it just makes victory even sweeter for me. So I make sure to never give that satisfaction to others, I always gg.


well i dont gg if I lost playing badly and I can 100% say that i wont be raging ill leave to play another game...
Live and Let Die!
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
April 08 2011 15:03 GMT
#73
I always gg, and most of my opponents in the last few days have gg'd as well. (mid gold -.-)
Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:04:15
April 08 2011 15:03 GMT
#74
I'm such a carebear that, if I ragequit when I lose (rarely happens that i ragequit) I type in sorry and gg afterwards

Its not hard to type those two letters, and imo its just about manner, and being a good sport
Fog-of-War
Profile Joined November 2009
United States103 Posts
April 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#75
i say glhf before every game.

BUT i don't gg after every game. not by a long shot, only if it's a good game will i GG.

saying gg means you respect your opponent and how they won. If i lose to choose or an opponent i obviously should have beat, i don't gg.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
April 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#76
Depends a bit, if the game goes its normal macro way, i always GG, if my opponent cheese, i never GG, i hate cheeser ;(
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:05:38
April 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#77
On April 09 2011 00:02 BG1 wrote:
When someone doesn't gg I get extra satisfaction out of their rage/frustration, it just makes victory even sweeter for me. So I make sure to never give that satisfaction to others, I always gg.


Exactly, 100% spot-on.

I especially make sure that - after raging in reallife - I "gg" in each and every game I lose to cheese...since when I cheese and get a "gg" from my opponent I always feel a little bit ashamed inside, lol.
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
April 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#78
On April 09 2011 00:03 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 00:02 BG1 wrote:
When someone doesn't gg I get extra satisfaction out of their rage/frustration, it just makes victory even sweeter for me. So I make sure to never give that satisfaction to others, I always gg.


well i dont gg if I lost playing badly and I can 100% say that i wont be raging ill leave to play another game...


It doesn't matter how you actually feel, it's how the opponnent perceives it.
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Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
April 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#79
If it's a game that I played poorly in and he won overwhelmingly, I do not GG, because the game - shocker- was NOT a good game.

If the other guy played terribly and I destroy him, most of the time they will not GG, which is totally cool.

If we both played well and the game is lost due to a macro/micro slip-up then I'll happily GG.

I also don't say GLHF at the start of every game, because no I do not wish you good luck and no I do not want you to have fun. I want you to lose, get a grip. Doesn't mean I hate you, it just means I want to win.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
April 08 2011 15:06 GMT
#80
On April 09 2011 00:03 DuneBug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 23:47 robih wrote:
too many games in sc2 turn out so retarded that they just dont deserve a gg


Yeah, kinda this.
I have reservations about glhf'ing these days because I'm basically going to get 4gated. Being cheesed or cannon rushed is kind of refreshing, something different.
Also I don't think anyone's really happy with the state of protoss right now. Get 6 colossi and win.

Personally I GG when i feel like the other guy earned it. It does mean good game after all.

But people are rude... I had a terran spawn close positions on metal and he went CC first, but i didn't scout the cc so I assumed he was proxy rax'ing me so i went pool first, then I go to his natural and there's a cc building. (Which he started morphing to a PF)

Clearly I won, but he gave me some BM about "I have a 100% winrate using this build if I get the PF up. But on close positions i should've just gone and killed you."
I don't understand that, you did a stupid build which i scouted and reacted to. If he'd gone 1rax/cc it would've been a completely different game. (Told him after the game he should've built a barracks just so i didn't think he was proxying)


people liek that i hate, do customs if you want to try out a new strat and dont want to lose on ladder doing it. id rather play ladder doing new strats as playing vs a number of different people with diffent strats and ideas makesu know the weaknesses and pros of doing it.
Live and Let Die!
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:10:01
April 08 2011 15:06 GMT
#81
I think i've gg'd every game i've ever played, except one which I got disconnected this past week, with battle.net acting up. Even if the guy trolls me, I just gg every time. I also don't really mind when they don't gg. The only thing that annoys me are people who offensive gg. That's pretty BM in my book, only assholes do that. But I still gg those people when I leave lol.

also i pretty much never cheese in 1v1. i've never 6 or 7 pooled, except a couple times when playing 3v3 with my 2 zerg friends, which is rare since we haven't completed our placement matches yet.
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
April 08 2011 15:06 GMT
#82
never gg ever
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
April 08 2011 15:07 GMT
#83
Hmmmm.... I almost always GG unless its some kind of 6pool/double proxy gate bullshit. However, if someone offensive GGs me, I float to the corner and go browse the interwebz lmfao... be gm people, only I can carry the [bm] tag :D
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ChaoticBlack
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia288 Posts
April 08 2011 15:07 GMT
#84
I don't usually gg when I win since they leave before I can.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#85
I don't get why some silly house rules from bw are forced upon us when playing ladder. I couldn't care less about it. If I don't gg it doesn't mean I'm raging, and it doesn't mean I'm disprespecting my opponent. It means I don't think the game was good. Which is what gg means after all.
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Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
April 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#86
I only GG if my opponent had more then 1 base when he killed me.
Go big, or go home!
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
April 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#87
why would you gg in a ladder game unless you really felt it was a good game. is neded only for tournaments or official games imo.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
April 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#88
I play a lot of custom matches, it's a big surprise to me when I get a GG at the end of the game. People give the reason that as it's only a custom game, there's no need to GG.

Yet on ladder people that I've played tend to be annoyed they've lost points and either leave with a bitter comment or without a word.

I think everyone skips a GG now and then, but it's the stupid insults at the end of the game that are annoying. From my limited experience it seems master league players are the worst when it comes to justifying their loss based on racial balance or tactics.
Sava90
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:12:07
April 08 2011 15:10 GMT
#89
I usually don't GG or even say GL HF. I dont wanna say it, just to say it. When I play tourneys I always say it of course, but laddering is different for me. It's just another random opponent who I will probably never talk to again. And personally I couldn't care less if the person says GL HF or not.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
April 08 2011 15:11 GMT
#90
It's basic ettique. I gg every game regardless. But sometimes I do let my emotions get the better of me.
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insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
April 08 2011 15:11 GMT
#91
I only gg if it's true, when I get 2gate allin'd I don't. Always start with gg hf though, it's a manner thing.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
7pool
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden103 Posts
April 08 2011 15:12 GMT
#92
On April 09 2011 00:07 ChaoticBlack wrote:
I don't usually gg when I win since they leave before I can.


Since I never gg either, it feels really stupid when people gg and stay in the game like they're waiting for me to type gg. : )
"The reason there's no zergs on the server is cuz fags like you do builds like this." - IdrA
Oproer
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands108 Posts
April 08 2011 15:13 GMT
#93
I only GG when it was a good game.. PvP 4gate v 4gate doesn't deserve a gg..
If the game was shorter than 12 minutes, it doesn't deserve a gg either.
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FroZeNN
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States165 Posts
April 08 2011 15:13 GMT
#94
I type GG 100% of the time even if i get cheesed or anything else, i mean even if i play bad and do not think it was a good game no need to take anything away from my opponent who did the necessary to win, no matter how gay or frustrating it was. A win is a win, and a loss requires one to type GG, imo.
"More GG More Skill" - WhiteRa
XavierGr
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece15 Posts
April 08 2011 15:14 GMT
#95
GG is overrated in my opinion. It is so common that has lost its true meaning.
If I have a good game and lose I will gg but that is rare. Normally I don't gg unless I win and the opponent says it first.

It is nothing personal for me, I am just bored to type it for a shitty game I played.
The same applies for gl hf.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:15:42
April 08 2011 15:14 GMT
#96
On April 09 2011 00:13 Oproer wrote:
I only GG when it was a good game.. PvP 4gate v 4gate doesn't deserve a gg..
If the game was shorter than 12 minutes, it doesn't deserve a gg either.


Yeah I only gg if I mean it. Otherwise it's a stale, unfelt, and uncaring way of saying "I lose." if you say it every single game.

Most games I will type out "good game" since the true meaning of "gg" has been destroyed by overusage.
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goneim
Profile Joined May 2010
China201 Posts
April 08 2011 15:15 GMT
#97
I gg whenever I lose the game, even if the opponent takes me by cheesing, but I now think that might be too kind for them...
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 08 2011 15:15 GMT
#98
On April 08 2011 23:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 23:52 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe they don't gg because to them, it wasn't a good game? More importantly, does it even matter?

If only that was true, and that is the problem. I forgot to add this in the OP. But after a really good game against protoss. 4 Bases both and I went ling bling corrupter broodlord. A really action packed game. My opponent leaves without gg.

I typed to him why he thought it wasn't a gg, and back then I didn't even believed yet there were people that don't gg because there is no rule to gg...
He replies and curses me, telling me I was BM to message him...

But it doesn't matter whether the game itself was good or not, it comes down to the loser's perception. He lost, therefore it wasn't a good game for him which you can understand. Not everyone can and will step back after losing and rationalise how entertaining/good the game was. People just think and act differently and there's no correct/wrong way to end a game. People get too hung up on this bm stuff.
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 08 2011 15:15 GMT
#99
I haven't seen a gg from an opponent for... I think months now. Everyone just rage quits and calls you a noob for beating them.
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Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
April 08 2011 15:16 GMT
#100
i want my gg to actually mean something instead of being a random formality. i gg when it's a good game.
KillemallCFH
Profile Joined December 2010
United States45 Posts
April 08 2011 15:16 GMT
#101
On April 09 2011 00:09 nkr wrote:
I don't get why some silly house rules from bw are forced upon us when playing ladder. I couldn't care less about it. If I don't gg it doesn't mean I'm raging, and it doesn't mean I'm disprespecting my opponent. It means I don't think the game was good. Which is what gg means after all.
It's not a "silly house rule from bw"; saying gl hf / gg is pretty customary in every online game.
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IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:17:41
April 08 2011 15:16 GMT
#102
"gg" only is necessary in friendly cg's or tourney games imo. Srsly, I dont care about "glhf, gg" etc. in ladder games. As long as you dont flame or whine when u lose, everything is alright.
ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
April 08 2011 15:18 GMT
#103
I never gg ladder. If I was seeing the same opponents over and over and developed rivalries and what not i would. I don't see a reason to GG a random player on the ladder that I will never play again. to me gg has signified tournament games where you are conceeding victory. In ladder exit game automatically gives t hem the win so i don't see a reason to gg.
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ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:19:08
April 08 2011 15:18 GMT
#104
Always do the glglhf and most often gg in tournys, except for the times when i rage (not that often rly). Ladder, I only 'gg', if I'm not frustrated due to me playing bad or my opponent doing something cheesy. Pretty much comes down to, was it a good game? Then I'll gg.

No point in lying is there ?
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 08 2011 15:19 GMT
#105
We've already had dozens of discussions like the one in this thread.
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