On July 02 2011 02:29 bITt.mAN wrote: whoooo now where's that link to the place to watch 2 FPVOD's at once (Bisu JD WCG was when I saw it). Both FPViews at the same time = orgasm.
Hmm, i wonder, you fix matches, you get caught, and basicly you are kicked from playing leagues and tournaments, right?. Thats fraud, normally u go to jail for that and have to pay some serious cash. Oh well :D.
On July 15 2011 18:01 simansh wrote: What program does he use to see his apm?
Chaoslauncher, Mini, W-launcher (it is some letter and I believe it's W but I'm not entirely sure), all do work. Thing is, you can't use them on iccup.
I never want to see Savior play a public game ever again. What he did is pretty much unforgiveable. I don't even want to imagine how the esport scene would look today if fixing was more common.. There wouldn't be one.
On July 15 2011 22:37 Sina92 wrote: I never want to see Savior play a public game ever again. What he did is pretty much unforgiveable. I don't even want to imagine how the esport scene would look today if fixing was more common.. There wouldn't be one.
So, what are you doing in this thread? sAviOruuuuuuuuuuuu fighting!!!
On June 19 2011 09:42 Xiphos wrote: Seriously its not like sAviOr (yes the correct way of spelling it ) have commited murder or shall I say molested a child. He was young and stupid. I am pretty sure that once in our time that we have done something stupid that we have regret before.
Yeah he only fucked over the integrity of esports, exploited his position in the industry to ruin the lives of numerous other progamers (yarnc, upmagic etc) and betrayed the trust of the entire scene. Not to mention compromising the future of BW.
Yeah. No biggie.
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Please.. Yarnc, upmagic and the others did it to themselves. No one forced them to do it.
Also: as far as compromising the future of BW, Kespa violating IP rights did way more to compromise its future than any match-fixing scandal.
I was going to respond seriously to this post, but then I looked at the username. Thus I'll just leave a small note.
KeSPA violating IP rights only divided up the Korean group into two: SCBW (larger portion) and SC2 (comparably smaller). That was the only 'overall' effect. Match fixing went mainstream, and people started looking down at e-Sports scene (people worked hard to build up BW to be accepted as a mainstream entertainment/sport, but everything topped over when this happened).
Curious about this, and it's been asked many times, but in term of long-term impact, will the match fixing scandal actually help? It's been a year so understandably it still carries the negative connotation, but the changes it induced (no pre-determined lineup, probably more scrutiny on matches and players) could really help in the long-term. Moreover, the fact that there was real money to be made in match-fixing BW games implies that rich gamblers deem it a serious enough sport. That outlook could lend mainstream legitimacy to the scene so long as there's an assurance that it wouldn't happen again or at least there are enough regulations to minimize the possibility (and no more major scandals erupt - thank God Kespa vs Blizzard in court is over that was a silly fight with interesting legal questions).
It may very well help the industry in the long run, attention is always good in these days. As you mentioned the whole "scandal" spread the news around the world, some important people may scratch their heads and think about investing more into it if it is really a serious business.
In world's eyes for some amount of time BW stopped being silly video game competition but something serious and established enough to warrant putting in prison for violating rules of fair-play (and gain money).
BW as any esports game is fragile entity, however the fact that it did not crumble after the scandal and is living well gives it certain amount of creditability.
Probably harsh punishment for Savior is also a typically used prevention method, which is good for the esports, well for now only for BW in korea but it will be always mentioned and referred if something similar would happen in the future.
Some people should stop being hypocrites and accept that when esports competition level and engagement complexity starts to look more like real sports it will not only take what is good but also what is bad from its predecessors.
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) have commited murder or shall I say molested a child. He was young and stupid. I am pretty sure that once in our time that we have done something stupid that we have regret before. 
