EPTSavior plays BW games on Afreeca - Page 4
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:35 dacthehork wrote: When they don't win, no food. Also how do you think Savior broke his leg? Kespa and co do their shit legally, because the laws for child labor and protection of "entertainers" which pro gamers are classified under are non existent. If KTF ran their team in America the practices they follow would be illegal. Same with the coaches that beat their players when they lose. This information is 100% accurate and I apologize for disagreeing. I pray to the ESPORTS gods that you are fucking trolling.. | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
And the KTF coach, Jung Soo Yung, did indeed whip his players with a bat. Garimto said it was to help them concentrate, he mostly did it while they were practicing. Garimto confirmed it to be true on a post on pgr21.com, but he didn't really say anything malicious about it. When [Oops]Lee went to KTF and started doing well in the Proleague, alot of people said it was because of Coach Jung's beatings and locking him a little room to practice. Of course, we'll never know if that's true because the Coach has never said if he did or did not beat the players. All we know now is that if he did beat them with a bat, he doesn't do it anymore http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35847¤tpage=2 listen Korea has no child labor laws for "entertainers". So teams pick up 15 year olds and can have them practice forever. The hours of forced practice is basically slavery. Check out TSL the sc2 team run by an ex SC:BW coach who basically says "never will I do forced practice again". The shit SC:BW teams do is 100% illegal in America or any modern country User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On KT's coach: Stop being an idiot. Your player (Luxury) wasn't forced to throw games. Stop blaming it on Savior as well. "Worse than child molesters". I wonder what you think about GundamWeRRa. On Savior: I'd get a korean proxy and an afreeca account if he decides to stream himself in afreeca. People are trying to make a big deal out of probably one of the stupidest things. Keep ya' head up. You're not guilty of playing on a casted stream. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:42 dacthehork wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35847¤tpage=2 Jung Soo Yung and Lee Ji Hoon are not the same person. I was baffled too, the names are so similiar! | ||
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Simplistik
2142 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:35 dacthehork wrote: When they don't win, no food. Also how do you think Savior broke his leg? Kespa and co do their shit legally, because the laws for child labor and protection of "entertainers" which pro gamers are classified under are non existent. If KTF ran their team in America the practices they follow would be illegal. Same with the coaches that beat their players when they lose. Kespa itself is breaking the law extremely with regards to SC IP rights anyway. So who, in your qualified opinion, broke SaviOr's leg? Coach Cho? Someone from KeSPA? Or perhaps one of his team mates? (No matter who you pick, you'd probably be breaking some kind of defamation law.) | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:46 r33k wrote: Jung Soo Yung and Lee Ji Hoon are not the same person. I was baffled too, the names are so similiar! my point wasn't the exact coach but the kespa and SC:BW teams in general. Forced practice, pure monopoly, etc. The conditions would be illegal in America. To say Kespa and ESPORTS in korea are some shining star before this happened is ridiculous. Luckily Kespa won't be around much longer. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:42 dacthehork wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35847¤tpage=2 listen Korea has no child labor laws for "entertainers". So teams pick up 15 year olds and can have them practice forever. The hours of forced practice is basically slavery. Check out TSL the sc2 team run by an ex SC:BW coach who basically says "never will I do forced practice again". The shit SC:BW teams do is 100% illegal in America or any modern country GOD DAMN RIGHT HELL DEM COUNTRIES SHOULDN'T BE DOIN ANYTHANG THEY CANT DO IN AMURCA. Look dude, its obvious you have some sort of grudge against the bw scene and feel the need to go way off topic to start stupid shit over kespa and coaches allegedly beating players, I'll go ahead and quote my first response for you, Have fun. Actually, don't even post at all..sc2 forums don't need your trash. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On March 06 2011 17:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: Any vods? | ||
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aupstar
Australia912 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:52 aupstar wrote: Savior should be given a chance to show that he has changed. We all make mistakes, but then we learn from them. He paid his dues, I don't think he deserves this sort of treatment. He should be encouraged to do something productive, and I think that's what he's doing here. At least he's gone back to studying, which I think is a good thing. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:52 aupstar wrote: Savior should be given a chance to show that he has changed. We all make mistakes, but then we learn from them. He paid his dues, I don't think he deserves this sort of treatment. He should be encouraged to do something productive, and I think that's what he's doing here. People are still hurting,he hasn't paid his dues yet.he still has another year to keep his mouth shut and lay low,let him complete his sentence before he does shit. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:53 Ryo wrote: At least he's gone back to studying, which I think is a good thing. GL finding a job in SK. Unless he's set on becoming a clerk for life (which given his interest in fashion and money in general seems rather unlikely) studying won't do him much when he's going to be pursued by haters all his life. On March 06 2011 19:56 BLinD-RawR wrote: People are still hurting,he hasn't paid his dues yet.he still has another year to keep his mouth shut and lay low,let him complete his sentence before he does shit. Streaming BW is not a crime. Korean haters, on the other hand, have proven themselves to be extremely prone to criminal behavior over and over. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On March 06 2011 19:52 aupstar wrote: Savior should be given a chance to show that he has changed. We all make mistakes, but then we learn from them. He paid his dues, I don't think he deserves this sort of treatment. He should be encouraged to do something productive, and I think that's what he's doing here. He got a second chance when he was first accused, he could have fessed up and apologized. Instead he lied through his teeth and blamed everyone but himself for months, claiming his innocence until he realized nobody was buying his bullshit. He proved he was just a lying, cheating pos. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Sport cheats who have been caught deliberately cheating in their own matches are only suspended for a year or two. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On March 06 2011 20:07 fearus wrote: Honesty, I think people are overreacting to what Savior did. Sport cheats who have been caught deliberately cheating in their own matches are only suspended for a year or two. The main issue is that while foreign fans strive to make e-sports look like actual legitimate sports 90% of the fans watching BW events live in korea are teenage girls with boyband syndrome. It's easier when thinking of possible fan reactions to consider BW a form of sports entertainment, like the WWE. | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1772 Posts
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
On March 06 2011 20:12 r33k wrote: The main issue is that while foreign fans strive to make e-sports look like actual legitimate sports 90% of the fans watching BW events live in korea are teenage girls with boyband syndrome. It's easier when thinking of possible fan reactions to consider BW a form of sports entertainment, like the WWE. *cough* But anyways, the people who overreact the most to Savior, other than those in esports, are those who used to be Savior fans. It's a matter of betrayal. | ||
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