EPTSavior plays BW games on Afreeca - Page 6
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On March 06 2011 17:38 GTR wrote: comparing savior to pedophiles? seriously? well at least he hasn't moved to sc2 ;p Meh, he obviously doesn't mean Savior is literally worse than child molestors. Hence the apology. It's just an unfortunate way of expressing his anger. But you can't deny his anger is justified. The betting scandal didn't bring down Broodwar, but it could have and Savior would have deserved much of the blame for it. Trying to sneak back into the community that you almost destroyed is just not right. | ||
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Hirmu
Finland850 Posts
On March 06 2011 21:59 T.O.P. wrote: sAvIOr fighting! I hope he gets a second chance. Ma Je' Yoon shall rise again! All hail the maestro! | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On March 06 2011 22:14 hypercube wrote: Meh, he obviously doesn't mean Savior is literally worse than child molestors. Hence the apology. It's just an unfortunate way of expressing his anger. But you can't deny his anger is justified. The betting scandal didn't bring down Broodwar, but it could have and Savior would have deserved much of the blame for it. Trying to sneak back into the community that you almost destroyed is just not right. I don't think he was trying to "sneak back into the community" though. Mysticism is the id he played these games on, I thought that has been one of his known west akas for quite some time (it has like 7000 games even). unless im really confused and mysticism was the fake guy mentioned in the op. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On March 06 2011 22:22 SnowFantasy wrote: I don't think he was trying to "sneak back into the community" though. Mysticism is the id he played these games on, I thought that has been one of his known west akas for quite some time (it has like 7000 games even). unless im really confused and mysticism was the fake guy mentioned in the op. I guess it's possible someone just decided to cast his games without his knowledge just when he posted on his fan-cafe. I don't know. In the end I wouldn't even mind if matchfixers got a second chance. Except I wouldn't want to see Luxury in KT, any other team is fine  But the people who got others involved, like sAviOr and that guy from Hite whose name I can't remember, should be the last to come back (if at all) not the first. | ||
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ShcShc
Canada912 Posts
Its wrong what they did but progamers doesn't make that much money so its not something which I find that surprising. Heck, I feel it was bound to happen especially with all the sacrifice that comes along with it (school, studies, etc...). Anyway... | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Also, I think Savior could beat GundamWerra convincingly. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
Kids. Or savior. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On March 06 2011 23:08 ShcShc wrote: Lol people are a bit too harsh on the people who were involved with match-fixing. Its wrong what they did but progamers doesn't make that much money so its not something which I find that surprising. Heck, I feel it was bound to happen especially with all the sacrifice that comes along with it (school, studies, etc...). Anyway... Savior and Hwasin don't make much money? Go actually find out these things before talking shit. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
On March 06 2011 23:14 butchji wrote: Wow even after all that time still so harsh about sAviOr? I'm sure he learned his lesson already... it hasn't been long enough,the wounds haven't healed. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8092 Posts
On March 06 2011 17:22 Lightwip wrote: Thanks. Wow, that's a pretty significant part. Put it this way, hes on a 18 month suspended sentence so a pretty large part | ||
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ShcShc
Canada912 Posts
On March 06 2011 23:35 infinity2k9 wrote: Savior and Hwasin don't make much money? Go actually find out these things before talking shit. Savior is more the exception, but yes, even him. IIRC, with G.O team, he was making less than 50k. Then G.O team became CJ and after his first titles, his salary went over a hundred K. I believe his best year was 400k (where he made the most among all progamers). Hwasin, (based on memory), did not exceed 100k per year. UpMagic was with eStro and was around 50k. (all based on memory). PER YEAR, its great. Its fantastic especially for their age. But what about the post-progaming years? Over a long-term period, its barely anything. And there doesn't seem that many career opportunities related to e-sport. Many of them will probably go back studying which cost mucho dinero and a lot of opportunity cost (salaries that could have been made during these studies). There are a lot of CFL players (the "canadian" NFL) whom make well over 130k per year for 5 years and are actually genuinely struggling to make some ends meet (no they don't spend recklessly) because there isin't that much opportunities in the post-professional era. "Go actually find out these things before talking shit" Ah has the old TL courteous day a long time history?? haha. But yes, in a general life perspective, its pretty mediocre. (of course no progamers go in for the money, but money is still an undeniable important aspect of life). | ||
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FALAPARK
United States224 Posts
He should transition to sc2 | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On March 06 2011 17:22 Lightwip wrote: Thanks. Wow, that's a pretty significant part. He did not fix matches. He only connected Hwasin and one other players to betting sites that did fix matches and acted as a broker between players. Where did you get Embezzled and fixed? ~_~ | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On March 07 2011 00:06 Milkis wrote: He did not fix matches. He only connected Hwasin and one other players to betting sites that did fix matches and acted as a broker between players. Where did you get Embezzled and fixed? ~_~ You make it sound like we know for a fact that he didn't fix games | ||
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On March 07 2011 00:19 hypercube wrote: You make it sound like we know for a fact that he didn't fix games There is no evidence otherwise. AFAIK, he didn't get a penny for anything he did. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Did he? No. In fact, he pulled all sorts of shenanigans like showing up to court in crutches, saying he didn't do some of the things he later admitted to anyway, etc. KT Coach's words were pretty harsh, but I largely agree with the core of the message. | ||
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