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+ Show Spoiler +I laugh at people for comparing Stork to Bisu. Stork isn't even solid. ( Don't flame me, cuz i love both of them, but still... Bisu is way better.)
And going back to Savior... I guess he deserved that treatment, but i still would love Hwasin and Savior to play SC2. ( Since they can't compete in BW )
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GSL automatically rejects any players from the match fixing scandal i think.
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Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it.
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Poor guy ruined his legacy but he probably almost killed some of the sponsors for OSL and MSL.
Well the post made by KT Coach was depressing. My mother said that a common stereotype of Koreans in Japan is that Koreans are very rash and emotional.
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On March 12 2011 11:29 kassi wrote: Back on topic... I'd like to add one point of view to perhaps explain why fixing games was even bigger in Korea? In Korea, as far as I know, gambling is illegal. (well except for foreigners who come to gamble in Korea) It's illegal for Koreans to gamble anywhere actually, even outside of Korea. The idea that progamers not only gambled but threw their own matches... It was probably very very shocking and unforgivable.
Come on dude. In Thailand, gambling is illegal, and you know what, everyone, and i say everyone was gambling on football matches. So did i. I dont think foreigners are needed for korea to gamble. I dont think it must be very different there.
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On March 12 2011 14:48 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 11:29 kassi wrote: Back on topic... I'd like to add one point of view to perhaps explain why fixing games was even bigger in Korea? In Korea, as far as I know, gambling is illegal. (well except for foreigners who come to gamble in Korea) It's illegal for Koreans to gamble anywhere actually, even outside of Korea. The idea that progamers not only gambled but threw their own matches... It was probably very very shocking and unforgivable. Come on dude. In Thailand, gambling is illegal, and you know what, everyone, and i say everyone was gambling on football matches. So did i. I dont think foreigners are needed for korea to gamble. I dont think it must be very different there.
people in korea sometimes gamble privately with their friends and family. What they mean by illegal here is organized gambling or organized match-fixing where someone makes a ton of money off of it by participating in it.
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I'm sorry but that choice of words, coming from a COACH of a respected team, who is supposed to be mature and composed, is toootally out of line. People make mistakes. You can choose to ignore them, not compare them to child molesters...that is just disgusting coming from a mature person.
P.S. I still luv u MJY
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On March 12 2011 14:48 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 11:29 kassi wrote: Back on topic... I'd like to add one point of view to perhaps explain why fixing games was even bigger in Korea? In Korea, as far as I know, gambling is illegal. (well except for foreigners who come to gamble in Korea) It's illegal for Koreans to gamble anywhere actually, even outside of Korea. The idea that progamers not only gambled but threw their own matches... It was probably very very shocking and unforgivable. Come on dude. In Thailand, gambling is illegal, and you know what, everyone, and i say everyone was gambling on football matches. So did i. I dont think foreigners are needed for korea to gamble. I dont think it must be very different there.
Gambling - not so bad, even when illegal. Match-fixing - much, much worse.
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Nice games. + Show Spoiler +It's not that hard to find P lambs for 마재윤 to slaughter. I just wish there were more games, or a ZvT.
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I think he was a jackass in terms of not knowing how to fucking obs, turning the sound on and off, background noises etc, Just turn the fucking game sound on, maybe with some ingame music. Turn of your annoying ass microphone, and ob like a man!
Or send us the replay.
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talk about overreaction, the coach really stepped out of the line with his reaction, way over it.
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Man, that is definitely sAviOr: expand, no static defenses, ballsy drops, defend with drones.
Would be cool to watch him play as an amateur more often, but he got shot down so hard I doubt he will publicly play.
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On March 12 2011 14:30 5unrise wrote: Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it.
Amen brother, the savior hate is ridiculous... i still like the guy and would love to see how he would be at sc2 or continue with sc1.. sAviOr FIGHTING!!!
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On March 12 2011 14:30 5unrise wrote: Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it.
Zerg still don't have too much of a chance vs Terran. If you compare Flash's vs Z to Savior's height of ZvT, it's still years apart.
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On March 28 2011 14:15 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 14:30 5unrise wrote: Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it. Zerg still don't have too much of a chance vs Terran. If you compare Flash's vs Z to Savior's height of ZvT, it's still years apart. That's because they are. Savior's ZvT was made for play back in 2006-2007 not to counter future builds and strategies.
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On March 28 2011 14:15 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 14:30 5unrise wrote: Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it. Zerg still don't have too much of a chance vs Terran. If you compare Flash's vs Z to Savior's height of ZvT, it's still years apart.
This is even dumber than the sc2 quality > scVanilla quality at launch argument
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On March 28 2011 14:15 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 14:30 5unrise wrote: Ma Jae Yoon is a hero, and I stand by that despite what he did. Before Ma Jae Yoon Zerg was a race that could never really stood up to terran, and now zerg has a very reasonable chance of victory. A hero to some will always be a villain to many others, and so be it. Zerg still don't have too much of a chance vs Terran. If you compare Flash's vs Z to Savior's height of ZvT, it's still years apart. i still have faith in jaedong
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Savior really shouldn't be playing BW (at least not publicly) ever again because of what he did. I can understand the KT coach's anger.
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