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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 07 2011 05:36 GMT
#261
so, does anyone have the link to the stream he plays on?
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 05:37 GMT
#262
On March 07 2011 14:36 Metal[x] wrote:
so, does anyone have the link to the stream he plays on?

Its on Afreeca's so you could check out Kiante's stream I think cause he restreams it.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 07 2011 05:46 GMT
#263
On March 07 2011 12:18 Fumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 11:38 Mortality wrote:
The coach was out of line. If he wanted to call Savior out, I'd have no problem with that, but the manner in which he did so was absurd. How can you even compare what Savior did to the sexual abuse of a child?

I realize he said these things out of anger, but... throwing a teenage temper tantrum online is supposed to be good for e-sports how? Yes he apologized but even with that apology thousands of people have now seen him behaving like an idiot. He's a coach of one of the most significant teams in e-sports history. He should know better.

It's not supposed to be good, but I'm sure he knows more than anyone else how stupid that was, so no need to keep reinforcing the same thing over and over. Just accept his apology and move on. Personally I'm sure he's gonna be a lot more careful from now on. This reminds me of how people picked on Incontrol and didn't accept his apologize.


I'm not interested in pointing fingers and shit. I'm just pointing out the fact that the coach's behavior did more damage than anything else. He should have let it lie. Or if he was going to say something, it should have been much better thought out. If he thinks Savior streaming games on Afreeca will continue to hurt the image of progaming (although personally I don't think it will -- progaming isn't Afreeca) he should have taken a time out to compose his thoughts rather than reacting out of anger.

It's this same kind of lack of forethought that led to the cheating scandal to begin with. It's not like Savior woke up one morning and said "I'm going to start cheating with all my friends." People on the outside drew him in and instead of thinking about the damage he could do to progaming (including his own career!) he thought about the short term gratification he would receive from getting extra money in his bank account.

Obviously the orders of magnitude are completely different, but if the coaches set that kind of example then the players will be more vulnerable to bad situations.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 07 2011 05:59 GMT
#264
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


Hi Ma Jae Yoon

Love you forever (no homo)
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 07 2011 06:03 GMT
#265
On March 07 2011 14:36 Metal[x] wrote:
so, does anyone have the link to the stream he plays on?


People are mid-reading the OP. Savior doesn't stream his FPview on afreeca. He played on one of the many "caster" BJ's on afreeca. These are people who just find a couple of good people to play, and cast their games. THere is now way of knowing when these bj's will have savior on their streams, or indeed if he will ever play again. I sometimes stream the BJ who casted savior, not at the time that savior played tho.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
March 07 2011 06:34 GMT
#266
On March 07 2011 14:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
No, people in this thread are specifically forgiving savior for his past actions and are saying he should be allowed to come back. Read the entire thread to see what I was responding to. Once again everyone assumes some foreign point when I was specifically talking of posts in this thread.

And yes, I get it, what the KT coach did is wrong. I agree. I have never said otherwise, I just don't think it's a big deal because he was mad and obviously didn't mean it -- something everyone in the world with a heartbeat has been folly to. I think it's a big deal for people to suddenly start saying savior should come back to esports after the KT coach's gaffe.


don't worry, a year later people will forgive Lee Jihoon 10000x more than they're trying to forgive Savior in this thread

and by the way, with or without the gaffe a lot of people probably wish Savior would come back. It's NOT the coach's gaffe as much as a thread that indicates he still plays BW that is causing people to say these things. The coach's gaffe is simply side commentary, but people wouldn't be saying "I wish he came back" nearly as much if it hadn't been noted that he's actually still PLAYING. Hate it or love it no single player probably elicits stronger feelings about BW than him, and no single player probably brought more people into BW and/or TL (in the foreign scene) in the past five years than him. A lot of people look at Savior and think "that guy's the reason why I got into BW"....

No, I don't think he should be allowed back. But even then, paradoxically, I still wish he could play again. Even though he played almost 0 of these games the last couple of years he was active, there has never quite been something like a "vintage Savior" game (it's like watching Flash's ridiculous comebacks but with less comeback and more razor thin edge walking, and a Zerg player to boot...) before or after. They're probably not even possible anymore, but that doesn't make the memories any less vivid.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
March 07 2011 06:56 GMT
#267
On March 07 2011 13:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


howcome people missed this very important post on the thread?

We need some detectives to find out whether this was a likely troll or a very rare and very lucky Ma Jae Yoon sighting.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
March 07 2011 06:58 GMT
#268
On March 07 2011 15:56 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


howcome people missed this very important post on the thread?

We need some detectives to find out whether this was a likely troll or a very rare and very lucky Ma Jae Yoon sighting.


I just assumed it was some korean telling us his ID...
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 07 2011 07:16 GMT
#269
On March 07 2011 15:58 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 15:56 Romantic wrote:
On March 07 2011 13:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


howcome people missed this very important post on the thread?

We need some detectives to find out whether this was a likely troll or a very rare and very lucky Ma Jae Yoon sighting.


I just assumed it was some korean telling us his ID...

Just random korean but Mysticism is a pretty well known aka of his on West anyways.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 07 2011 10:00 GMT
#270
Savior must feel awful about those comments KT's coach made.

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8865 Posts
March 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#271
not surprised to see KT coach acting like a faggot
he is one

User was temp banned for this post.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
March 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#272
gomtv should let savior play in sc2 to redeem himself
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
dragonsuper
Profile Joined October 2010
Liechtenstein222 Posts
March 07 2011 12:57 GMT
#273
please let savior return...
lol
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 07 2011 12:59 GMT
#274
He's not returning to the pro scene and it would be wrong to let him return. But he can play amateur BW as much he wants.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Red.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain228 Posts
March 07 2011 18:25 GMT
#275
On March 07 2011 04:55 stork4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 04:52 etheovermind wrote:
On March 07 2011 04:48 miky_ardiente wrote:
On March 07 2011 04:45 etheovermind wrote:
On March 07 2011 04:32 Roflhaxx wrote:
Savior start playing sc2! gogo! no kespa yay!

STOP MAKING POSTS LIKE THIS!



why ? , he should really do it, not that they are gonna let him but still at least give it a try, cuz there are still a lot of fans who want to see him play either bw or sc2, and u dont get to stop their desire

If he plays SC2 and does mediocre like BoxeR and Nada and July and Grrrr it just ruins the image. If Savior goes to play SC2 and becomes some average bum, thats how everyone will remember him.


?
we believe he will dominate


its been quite a few gsl's since the games release and we can perfectly say that no one has never ever dominated in that game and, in the short run, will never dominate, basically because of the lach in mechanich skills. we will see anyway
"Truth is cold and tough; lies are warm and always give you an excuse"
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
March 07 2011 21:41 GMT
#276
Good lord

Yes what Savior did was shitty. But hes a human being. Stop being on his nuts
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
Akamiri
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Vietnam401 Posts
March 07 2011 22:01 GMT
#277
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


Omg...
I don't care anymore
Even if it's wrong.. it's just me.. everyone is blaming him anyway... it's ok for me to forgive him.
He can't make the same mistake anymore anyway...
Play, MJY, enjoy yourself
***SamsungKHAN***TBLS*** :x:x ***NaDa*** BoxeR *** FruitDealer *** MarineKing ***:x Hwaiting~~!!! P.S: I'M A GIRL
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
March 07 2011 23:06 GMT
#278
what a poor choice of words.. as a coach he should set the example and be more thoughtful :\
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
March 08 2011 04:03 GMT
#279
On March 07 2011 16:16 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 15:58 Megaliskuu wrote:
On March 07 2011 15:56 Romantic wrote:
On March 07 2011 13:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 07 2011 03:01 alskatngo wrote:
hi. ma jae yoon play. id west mysticism


howcome people missed this very important post on the thread?

We need some detectives to find out whether this was a likely troll or a very rare and very lucky Ma Jae Yoon sighting.


I just assumed it was some korean telling us his ID...

Just random korean but Mysticism is a pretty well known aka of his on West anyways.

Ohhh... so it was a random Korean telling us Ma Jae Yoon plays on West with the ID Mysticism?

If that is it, I get it. That possibility didn't even occur to me when I read what he said. I thought he was either claiming to be MJY or just randomly giving a shoutout to MJY and then giving us his random ID.
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 11 2011 18:37 GMT
#280
Personally, i really dont care about what SaviOr as done last year. It`s true, it was dumb, just like Juventus cheated or Marseille, but the team had to fall to the bottom and pretty much lose all their players, and rebuild from that on.

I feel that the reaction from KeSpa was Childish. I remember Kim Carrier claiming they should erase his name out of SCBW history and that`s pretty disgusting. It`s not like an athlete that used steroids to win, when he was a bonjwa, he won legitely. That should never be forgotten. Every Zerg play builds that he invented. Bisu`s fame is because he defeated the undefeatable.

KT`s coach is not exactly a role model himself.

I hope Ma jae Yong find new ways to live his life and that he`ll find sucess. The man was an inspiration for me, regardless of what he`s done.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
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