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Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
March 28 2011 08:31 GMT
#321
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
March 28 2011 08:35 GMT
#322
On March 28 2011 17:31 Crt wrote:
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.

He is barred from the GSL anyways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was denied entry into many foreign competitions as well. His career as a progamer is likely over.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
March 28 2011 08:52 GMT
#323
So he is not locked for life then? Surprising news, thought he would get executed soon /irony. Looking forward if he actually makes it back somehow and will be forgiven...
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
March 28 2011 08:58 GMT
#324
savior being let into foreign sc2 leagues would make friggin awesome drama
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 28 2011 09:07 GMT
#325
Hmm, interesting news.
I don't know, I never had any hate for Savior for what he's done, it was bad for e-sports of course, very bad, but that chit happens in any kind of sport nowadays and is not stopped, cause too many ppl get involved blabla. It is obvious that it was silly to think sc would be an exclusion, sooner or later we could have another Savior.Now everything that is left is regret that sc lost such a talented player. KT coach is annoying.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
March 28 2011 09:08 GMT
#326
On March 28 2011 17:58 rauk wrote:
savior being let into foreign sc2 leagues would make friggin awesome drama

i wish this would happen, then i could bow before maestro once again!
Craixs
Profile Joined January 2008
Denmark170 Posts
March 28 2011 09:10 GMT
#327
i want to see this steam, savior is so good with his dicisions i want to continue learn from him.
Entusman #9.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#328
On March 28 2011 18:08 Hirmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 17:58 rauk wrote:
savior being let into foreign sc2 leagues would make friggin awesome drama

i wish this would happen, then i could bow before maestro once again!


nah I wouldn't think so.

He literally sucks now, if you saw his game during the MSL qualifiers? He had like 2 groups of muta, all killed by 3 vessels and a couple of gols. He's not the same anymore, while Nada and Boxer showed great skill even when they were oldies.
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
March 28 2011 10:30 GMT
#329
On March 28 2011 19:06 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 18:08 Hirmu wrote:
On March 28 2011 17:58 rauk wrote:
savior being let into foreign sc2 leagues would make friggin awesome drama

i wish this would happen, then i could bow before maestro once again!


nah I wouldn't think so.

He literally sucks now, if you saw his game during the MSL qualifiers? He had like 2 groups of muta, all killed by 3 vessels and a couple of gols. He's not the same anymore, while Nada and Boxer showed great skill even when they were oldies.

starcraft 2 doesnt require the same speed ,so there is hope ^^ if he would indeed come back (yes i saw those games, they hurt me very much..)
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 28 2011 10:36 GMT
#330
I can't help but feel that it'd be fucking awesome to see Savior play SC2, just from the actual gameplay perspective, but I fucking hate what he did... ((
Mada Mada Dane
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
March 28 2011 16:13 GMT
#331
On March 28 2011 17:35 Coriolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 17:31 Crt wrote:
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.

He is barred from the GSL anyways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was denied entry into many foreign competitions as well. His career as a progamer is likely over.

Foreign competitions let hackers have a second chance, some redeemed themselves.
I say redemption for the maestro is acceptable.
아나코자본주의
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 28 2011 16:16 GMT
#332
On March 29 2011 01:13 ShroomyD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 17:35 Coriolis wrote:
On March 28 2011 17:31 Crt wrote:
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.

He is barred from the GSL anyways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was denied entry into many foreign competitions as well. His career as a progamer is likely over.

Foreign competitions let hackers have a second chance, some redeemed themselves.
I say redemption for the maestro is acceptable.


that's some hardcore fanboyism

Savior participated and recruited players to fix games

he should never be involved in progaming again
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
March 28 2011 16:20 GMT
#333
No company will take the stigma of sponsoring a tournament that includes a match-fixer. Sorry, but it's just the way it goes. Even if you did forgive him, and you wanted him in your tournament, you wouldn't want to damage your reputation with shareholders by allowing someone with a such a bad rap to compete. Face it, Savior isn't going to ever become a progamer again.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 16:29:57
March 28 2011 16:29 GMT
#334
On March 29 2011 01:20 Weedk wrote:
No company will take the stigma of sponsoring a tournament that includes a match-fixer. Sorry, but it's just the way it goes. Even if you did forgive him, and you wanted him in your tournament, you wouldn't want to damage your reputation with shareholders by allowing someone with a such a bad rap to compete. Face it, Savior isn't going to ever become a progamer again.


The amount of attention your team would get for recruiting Savior as a SC2 player should work in positive ways too. Besides the fact that good PR people would probably spin a dream story about redemption and forgiveness.

Don't see it happening but if it happend I would see a glorious and hilarious story unfold :'D
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#335
On March 29 2011 01:29 QuixoticO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 01:20 Weedk wrote:
No company will take the stigma of sponsoring a tournament that includes a match-fixer. Sorry, but it's just the way it goes. Even if you did forgive him, and you wanted him in your tournament, you wouldn't want to damage your reputation with shareholders by allowing someone with a such a bad rap to compete. Face it, Savior isn't going to ever become a progamer again.


The amount of attention your team would get for recruiting Savior as a SC2 player should work in positive ways too. Besides the fact that good PR people would probably spin a dream story about redemption and forgiveness.

Don't see it happening but if it happend I would see a glorious and hilarious story unfold :'D


He was a player, yes. But he also fixed games and that's not Good PR. SC2 already has the Emperor and Genius and Tushin for Good PR. Savior would just ruin it's fragile integrity, especially in the korean scene.
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
March 29 2011 14:35 GMT
#336
On March 28 2011 17:35 Coriolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 17:31 Crt wrote:
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.

He is barred from the GSL anyways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was denied entry into many foreign competitions as well. His career as a progamer is likely over.

You just making up shit there? I don't recall ever seeing anything about savior being barred from sc2 competitions
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
March 29 2011 14:41 GMT
#337
GOM stated that the match-fixers wouldn't be allowed to participate in their SC2 tournaments inc. GSL.
Tokyo Seoul London New York \\ SlayerS, KT
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6278 Posts
March 29 2011 14:43 GMT
#338
That was one of the first things GOM announced, around the time we misinterpreted Upmagic's intentions as stated in the video Artosis made of him. It may change (after all, we've seen live and let live before with ear hacks in BW), but right now anyone ejected by KeSPA isn't welcome in GOM tournaments.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
oovv
Profile Joined March 2008
366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 14:46:54
March 29 2011 14:46 GMT
#339
even if he was alowed to play in gom or other non kespa tournaments i belive its him who is rather ashamed of what he did and i really doubt he would want to play in any tournament or tv games
Oops.. i did it again
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
March 29 2011 15:14 GMT
#340
On March 29 2011 01:16 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 01:13 ShroomyD wrote:
On March 28 2011 17:35 Coriolis wrote:
On March 28 2011 17:31 Crt wrote:
Savior the God.

It'd be awesome if Savior enters SC2 like Boxer/Nada/and July.

I forgive Savior, man. It's easy money. People do stupid thing. He's sorry. punished for it. It's time to start over.

SC2 please.

He is barred from the GSL anyways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was denied entry into many foreign competitions as well. His career as a progamer is likely over.

Foreign competitions let hackers have a second chance, some redeemed themselves.
I say redemption for the maestro is acceptable.


that's some hardcore fanboyism

Savior participated and recruited players to fix games

he should never be involved in progaming again


I don't know, I don't think it's a harsher crime to lose games on purpose for money than to use tools to get an unfair advantage over your opponent to win money.

I think we'd be using a double standard if we don't allow him back in after a year or 2.

I'm not saying I'd allow him back in. I personally would give equally harsh punishments to ex-hackers.
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