I decided to change a lot of stuff in Sniperz ProMod(also changed name) mostly visual but i want more suggestions i still have lot to do and to fix i also wanted better terrain etc..
for those that dont know its a CTF map based on the Snipers maps for sc1.
its released in EU & US with the name Snipers Promod its still on testing but all help is welcome
Join channel Snipers i'll be there. add GizmomcS 774
i've been making lot of changes and added some items you can buy.. also added a dialog that shows the mvp(the person with most points in game)
i still want 3 more items but i suck at data i still want
a smoke grenade - that would leave smoke like the zeratul blink and would slowdown ppl in it a flash grenade - that would reduce the vision of the players it hit and a trap mine - that would stun the person who activates it for a bit
Jk I'd really like to get a chance trying it full house.
- I'd recommend making map slightly smaller, so it's really intense. - Not killing drones/mines when you die only hallucinations. - Having flag drop when you die, so team mates can pick it up and carry on. - More items of course.
Jk I'd really like to get a chance trying it full house.
- I'd recommend making map slightly smaller, so it's really intense. - Not killing drones/mines when you die only hallucinations. - Having flag drop when you die, so team mates can pick it up and carry on. - More items of course.
oh thx lol
btw its uploaded in US (or at least the guy said he was going to upload)
i fixed all the bugs and updated the map the most recent version is only in the arcade beta was glad going there now and seeing the map in top 10 most played xD kinda surprised me cause its the kind of map that you kinda hate it or love it.
Hey man I just tried out the game and gotta say...its AMAZING.
I love it so much that I tracked down your thread here to post some suggestions (something I never do) 1) allow first team to get 3 wins --> end the game just one match feels too short to satisfy my killing appetite
2) camera moves slow...and vision is less when you go down the map 3) if you can replace sniper attack with raynor's laser attack (penetration round I think) that would be SO EPIC
Great game! Major complaint from the reviews (which I share) is that teamkilling needs penalties to prevent trolls from ruining the game experience. Also, I personally feel drones are too good for their cost (duration/range). Keep up the great work!
I think the game is really cool, even though really hard when played 1st time ^^. But there are some flaws that I think need to be addressed.
The rules need to be more clear - how many flags u need to capture in order to win? how does a snipe vs snipe gets decided? (when both see each other beyond the range of the snipe and both press snipe at the same time), took me some time to find that pressing z lets me control my camera, until then it was really annoying. Also energy regen is quite unclear and cloak it self i can't really understand so well, I think it should be 1 sec of cloak for every 1 energy point.
I played this mod and its actually pretty bad, its just an A-click mod. Basically u control a ghost and need to snipe just like in a normal melee game and why i think its bad is because everybody is capable of A clicking someone so the game is almost decided for the 1st person who die/ the one who has a better connection. I find Bounty Hunters by Tenshi way way better, u need to aim in the general direction but have blink, a stun a shield, ffa sudden death flag, a lot of cool maps, i played it with my friends a lot of times and it was as much fun as warlock ... But well arcade came too late, it seems to me like the vampirism- island defense thing where an inferior mod was more popular than the other one.
On August 26 2012 22:31 Acertos wrote: I played this mod and its actually pretty bad, its just an A-click mod. Basically u control a ghost and need to snipe just like in a normal melee game and why i think its bad is because everybody is capable of A clicking someone so the game is almost decided for the 1st person who die/ the one who has a better connection. I find Bounty Hunters by Tenshi way way better, u need to aim in the general direction but have blink, a stun a shield, ffa sudden death flag, a lot of cool maps, i played it with my friends a lot of times and it was as much fun as warlock ... But well arcade came too late, it seems to me like the vampirism- island defense thing where an inferior mod was more popular than the other one.
well its suposed to be simple lol :p if you dont like dont play
On August 26 2012 22:31 Acertos wrote: I played this mod and its actually pretty bad, its just an A-click mod. Basically u control a ghost and need to snipe just like in a normal melee game and why i think its bad is because everybody is capable of A clicking someone so the game is almost decided for the 1st person who die/ the one who has a better connection. I find Bounty Hunters by Tenshi way way better, u need to aim in the general direction but have blink, a stun a shield, ffa sudden death flag, a lot of cool maps, i played it with my friends a lot of times and it was as much fun as warlock ... But well arcade came too late, it seems to me like the vampirism- island defense thing where an inferior mod was more popular than the other one.
well its suposed to be simple lol :p if you dont like dont play
I dont like, i dont play its just that im surprised people in TL play this mod even though there are better and more deserving ones... And to make it more fun i think u must change the way the attack works because now the mod is just u have vision u win u killed me first u win the game
On August 26 2012 22:31 Acertos wrote: I played this mod and its actually pretty bad, its just an A-click mod. Basically u control a ghost and need to snipe just like in a normal melee game and why i think its bad is because everybody is capable of A clicking someone so the game is almost decided for the 1st person who die/ the one who has a better connection. I find Bounty Hunters by Tenshi way way better, u need to aim in the general direction but have blink, a stun a shield, ffa sudden death flag, a lot of cool maps, i played it with my friends a lot of times and it was as much fun as warlock ... But well arcade came too late, it seems to me like the vampirism- island defense thing where an inferior mod was more popular than the other one.
well its suposed to be simple lol :p if you dont like dont play
I dont like, i dont play its just that im surprised people in TL play this mod even though there are better and more deserving ones... And to make it more fun i think u must change the way the attack works because now the mod is just u have vision u win u killed me first u win the game
there are ways to have advantage you have to play smart but its ok to have your opinion
On August 27 2012 09:08 Fulla wrote: Oops been posting on wrong account lol.
I'll do it for you if you want
Could even make a few weapons to choose from, depends how you feel.
ye man that would be awesome really wanted the snipers to have a projectile weapon kinda like star wars like blue team would fire a blue laser beam and red team a red laser beam xp get the map from here its latest version i cant update it on bnet right now http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sniperz-promod/files/8-snipers-promod-new-text/
u've skype ? add me on skype gizmomcs :p
think then i would have Snipers Promod with projectiles and have Snipers Promod Classic with A-Click
I really like the game since i found it back in beta, but it of course has it goods and bads. The dialog/ui is create but as already said the a click is too basic and actually flawed (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what). I might suggest how rooftop does it which uses the campaign raynor snipe that you actually have to time as it doesn't fire right away as well and can shoot farther than expected. I think this change alone would make it way better.
I love you idea for the smoke bomb and i would look to the hide'nseek concept map on mapster. For addition secondary weapons i think it would be fair to ask that the mine actually 1 hit or half total damage as the stun is rather useless (you would also want to make it do you can't place mines right close to one another like sb does it.) Then for the flashbang have that as an aoe stun which would be really useful for taking out bunch groups so you can stun and have time to possibly kill more than one player in the stunned time length.
There really needs to be a system in place for teamkills and it really kills the game; i know its already setup to minus pts but it should do more like after 2 teamkills it kicks the player and bans them for week (I mean 1 or 2 can be a mistake)
A new arena would be cool to but hard. Something like a heavily detailed cityscape would be great where you can actuall camo some into the background, but then again you'd have to keep out for height issues. I might be interested at some point doing a landscape or advanced triggering if you need it; im on mapster too with same id.
I made a "new " version , called "Snipers Legend" . I redid the terrain to make it look like a city , with doodads and statues , 2 new skills ( cloak for the ghost , the shield for the spectrum , blink for nova , and a grenade for tosh .) and a lot of new icons !
Feel free to download it from the editor and copy it ! ( i suck in the data editor ) . Bye !
On August 27 2012 20:51 hobbidude wrote: I really like the game since i found it back in beta, but it of course has it goods and bads. The dialog/ui is create but as already said the a click is too basic and actually flawed (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what). I might suggest how rooftop does it which uses the campaign raynor snipe that you actually have to time as it doesn't fire right away as well and can shoot farther than expected. I think this change alone would make it way better.
I love you idea for the smoke bomb and i would look to the hide'nseek concept map on mapster. For addition secondary weapons i think it would be fair to ask that the mine actually 1 hit or half total damage as the stun is rather useless (you would also want to make it do you can't place mines right close to one another like sb does it.) Then for the flashbang have that as an aoe stun which would be really useful for taking out bunch groups so you can stun and have time to possibly kill more than one player in the stunned time length.
There really needs to be a system in place for teamkills and it really kills the game; i know its already setup to minus pts but it should do more like after 2 teamkills it kicks the player and bans them for week (I mean 1 or 2 can be a mistake)
A new arena would be cool to but hard. Something like a heavily detailed cityscape would be great where you can actuall camo some into the background, but then again you'd have to keep out for height issues. I might be interested at some point doing a landscape or advanced triggering if you need it; im on mapster too with same id.
For teamkills I have a simple solution. If you teamkill you loose -1 credits.
When you die and go to respawn: -1 credit = 5 second delay -2 credit = 20 second delay -3 credit = 60 second delay anything more you are kicked.
For terrains I can make some really good ones. Could have 3-4 to pick from. -
On August 27 2012 20:51 hobbidude wrote: I really like the game since i found it back in beta, but it of course has it goods and bads. The dialog/ui is create but as already said the a click is too basic and actually flawed (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what). I might suggest how rooftop does it which uses the campaign raynor snipe that you actually have to time as it doesn't fire right away as well and can shoot farther than expected. I think this change alone would make it way better.
I love you idea for the smoke bomb and i would look to the hide'nseek concept map on mapster. For addition secondary weapons i think it would be fair to ask that the mine actually 1 hit or half total damage as the stun is rather useless (you would also want to make it do you can't place mines right close to one another like sb does it.) Then for the flashbang have that as an aoe stun which would be really useful for taking out bunch groups so you can stun and have time to possibly kill more than one player in the stunned time length.
There really needs to be a system in place for teamkills and it really kills the game; i know its already setup to minus pts but it should do more like after 2 teamkills it kicks the player and bans them for week (I mean 1 or 2 can be a mistake)
A new arena would be cool to but hard. Something like a heavily detailed cityscape would be great where you can actuall camo some into the background, but then again you'd have to keep out for height issues. I might be interested at some point doing a landscape or advanced triggering if you need it; im on mapster too with same id.
For teamkills I have a simple solution. If you teamkill you loose -1 credits.
When you die and go to respawn: -1 credit = 5 second delay -2 credit = 20 second delay -3 credit = 60 second delay anything more you are kicked.
For terrains I can make some really good ones. Could have 3-4 to pick from. -
I still don't see the reason to have the ability to teamkill at all. Its impossible to do it by accident. I have it disabled on NA right now simply because the rating was falling daily and Pubs were nearly impossible to play due to the countless trolls.
On August 27 2012 20:51 hobbidude wrote: (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what).
They found it by chance through extended testing and it only affects instant abilities. Attacks, such as those caused by issuing the attack command, are not affected.
On August 27 2012 20:51 hobbidude wrote: I really like the game since i found it back in beta, but it of course has it goods and bads. The dialog/ui is create but as already said the a click is too basic and actually flawed (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what). I might suggest how rooftop does it which uses the campaign raynor snipe that you actually have to time as it doesn't fire right away as well and can shoot farther than expected. I think this change alone would make it way better.
I love you idea for the smoke bomb and i would look to the hide'nseek concept map on mapster. For addition secondary weapons i think it would be fair to ask that the mine actually 1 hit or half total damage as the stun is rather useless (you would also want to make it do you can't place mines right close to one another like sb does it.) Then for the flashbang have that as an aoe stun which would be really useful for taking out bunch groups so you can stun and have time to possibly kill more than one player in the stunned time length.
There really needs to be a system in place for teamkills and it really kills the game; i know its already setup to minus pts but it should do more like after 2 teamkills it kicks the player and bans them for week (I mean 1 or 2 can be a mistake)
A new arena would be cool to but hard. Something like a heavily detailed cityscape would be great where you can actuall camo some into the background, but then again you'd have to keep out for height issues. I might be interested at some point doing a landscape or advanced triggering if you need it; im on mapster too with same id.
For teamkills I have a simple solution. If you teamkill you loose -1 credits.
When you die and go to respawn: -1 credit = 5 second delay -2 credit = 20 second delay -3 credit = 60 second delay anything more you are kicked.
For terrains I can make some really good ones. Could have 3-4 to pick from. -
I still don't see the reason to have the ability to teamkill at all. Its impossible to do it by accident. I have it disabled on NA right now simply because the rating was falling daily and Pubs were nearly impossible to play due to the countless trolls.
Agreed. There's no point in having it and it ruins the game. Out of 5 games today, I had 3 teamkillers. It's getting worse and worse D:
My god. Why would you remove all the grass and make the map 'bald'? This was my favorite UMS map and now it is totally unplayable. It looks awful (even the mini-map looks bizarre), it lacks all atmosphere now whereas before it had a great dank feel, and it makes the game a lot less fun. There are no more out of the corner of your eye movements against the grass to spot a sniper...he's just there.. in the dirt... or against the flat steel. I have all these horrible memories of the entire human population being mind wiped into liking the 'bald' version of Snipers from Brood War, which had no trees and no obstacles, and that's what this reminds me of. Why? Why?
On August 30 2012 10:12 RettMikhal wrote: My god. Why would you remove all the grass and make the map 'bald'? This was my favorite UMS map and now it is totally unplayable. It looks awful (even the mini-map looks bizarre), it lacks all atmosphere now whereas before it had a great dank feel, and it makes the game a lot less fun. There are no more out of the corner of your eye movements against the grass to spot a sniper...he's just there.. in the dirt... or against the flat steel. I have all these horrible memories of the entire human population being mind wiped into liking the 'bald' version of Snipers from Brood War, which had no trees and no obstacles, and that's what this reminds me of. Why? Why?
On August 30 2012 10:12 RettMikhal wrote: My god. Why would you remove all the grass and make the map 'bald'? This was my favorite UMS map and now it is totally unplayable. It looks awful (even the mini-map looks bizarre), it lacks all atmosphere now whereas before it had a great dank feel, and it makes the game a lot less fun. There are no more out of the corner of your eye movements against the grass to spot a sniper...he's just there.. in the dirt... or against the flat steel. I have all these horrible memories of the entire human population being mind wiped into liking the 'bald' version of Snipers from Brood War, which had no trees and no obstacles, and that's what this reminds me of. Why? Why?
hmm ok maybe i should change it back xp
Would this be an improvement? Not sure I can get this water to work on low settings, but still working on it.
Anything is better than dirt and steel. That seems to have the vegetation back, and the pool is acceptable. Makes me think of Predator running through water while cloaked.
On August 30 2012 10:12 RettMikhal wrote: My god. Why would you remove all the grass and make the map 'bald'? This was my favorite UMS map and now it is totally unplayable. It looks awful (even the mini-map looks bizarre), it lacks all atmosphere now whereas before it had a great dank feel, and it makes the game a lot less fun. There are no more out of the corner of your eye movements against the grass to spot a sniper...he's just there.. in the dirt... or against the flat steel. I have all these horrible memories of the entire human population being mind wiped into liking the 'bald' version of Snipers from Brood War, which had no trees and no obstacles, and that's what this reminds me of. Why? Why?
hmm ok maybe i should change it back xp
Would this be an improvement? Not sure I can get this water to work on low settings, but still working on it.
ah ye that looks nice a jungle like look looks pretty :p cause i was thinking in special events sometimes like releasing wild species(zergs) in the arena sometimes ;x
There's a bug with the weapon, you must target air units, but everything in the game is ground, so you can't kill anyone. It's also impossible to bring the flag back home. In short, the game has become unplayable.
On September 06 2012 03:15 SCRK wrote: There's a bug with the weapon, you must target air units, but everything in the game is ground, so you can't kill anyone. It's also impossible to bring the flag back home. In short, the game has become unplayable.
On September 06 2012 10:46 Barrin wrote: *hipster glasses* Been playin these sniper maps years before they invented "locks" (it means you're allied to your enemies and have to "A-target" each attack).
I might be one of the few people who actually liked the way it was before locks lol -- over the course of a game the more skillful would still win (there were advantageous angles you could vie for; teamwork owned noob-locking), but it was sometimes okay if you misclicked (granted mice sucked ass back then lol). Typing wasn't a death sentence, so you could sometimes find some casual games which could be relaxing - locks is always intense and extra disappointing when you die.
I didn't mind playing Bald in BW. But BW also had a lingering vision mechanic which was awesome to set up traps with. I guess the mines, vision-things, and decoys make up for this though.
Are unit status bars (the secondary hp/mana bar above a unit's model in the game field) disabled - to hide Ghosts that are hiding under trees? It definitely makes sense to give advantage for hiding under a tree, I just feel like it's a tad strong in some areas where there's a bunch of trees lined up in the next frame that you're moving into. It it extremely effective at preventing movement...
And on that note it generally just feels too difficult to take an enemy flag - I'm almost never in a situation where both teams have the flag. Perhaps this is a little more realistic than it was in BW, but maybe for un-fun reasons - not that standing around is really all that fun to begin with (partially why Bald was so popular I think).
On August 27 2012 20:51 hobbidude wrote: ... as already said the a click is too basic and actually flawed (i remember a test where they found from the games root coding that if two players target each other at the same time, one specific player (i think its the newest) is quaranteed the kill no matter what). I might suggest how rooftop does it which uses the campaign raynor snipe that you actually have to time as it doesn't fire right away as well and can shoot farther than expected. I think this change alone would make it way better.
Confirmed, newest unit killing oldest 100% of the time is well-documented:
However, this only applies to units that begin attacking from out of range. Since you don't automatically begin attacking even when you are in range, a lot of the time the two units are definitely within range of each other when firing commences. Most people still not using z to unlock their camera prbly has something to do with it too, as well as units no longer holding a lock when the target disappears into fog (like they did in BW). Also most people will hit their shield or invisibility on engage which prbly often nullifies this max-range new-unit-always-wins thing.
I do like the campaign raynor snipe thing, that sounds completely interesting from a gameplay perspective. However, part of the allure of this game is nostalgia - if you change the attacking system I fear you risk upsetting some core fans.
awesome post i 100% agree with you today i tried to put projectiles instead of old way and lot of people complained so i changed it back after like 30 mins lol.. and ye the bars are disabed so you can hide im almost sure lol i loved all snipers maps and also the sniper paintball ones and stuff in BW played them all day thats why i made this map xP
On September 06 2012 16:14 LeSioN wrote: can you change the "unlock camera" hotkey to something else? I use grid hotkeys so I cant use cloak/whatever and unlock my camera.
well in the new version there no camera lock just wait untill the US guy updates it
Is the map still updated ? New Swarm features could be put into the mod ... also , the terrain Fulla showcased some time ago ... how's going ?
Two suggestions :
-Bring back the game to the old concept , more skill , less gimmick stuff ! Only basic unit and pdd. - Why dont you use GhostNova91's Umojan Ghost & Shadoguard ? Should look beautiful ...
Hi IeZaeL, the map is still being worked on, but currently we're working heavily on a new Uber Arena HOTS. The terrain has got updated alot since that showcase.
- Did you mean less cloak, shield and that kind of stuff? Or referring more to the items. - We might use those models, is a matter of coming up with cool classes with their own abilities.
The pdd/drone is pretty imba, we was considering moving it to a a classes secondary ability. Any other questions?
On June 19 2013 03:15 Fulla wrote: We tried that once, changed the map, everyone hated it. For something like that it would be better to simply make a new map with a different name.
Hmmm okay. Well, I have a small group that plays this game regularly. Any way to make it higher than 4v4? Great game by the way. One of my favorite Arcade games.
As for that. I think maybe you could have it as an option at the beginning of the game.
Another thing is that using 20 energy to get 1 credit for all of your teammates isn't worth it. Probably should adjust the number?
Did we just play today MNdakota ? Me and Giz played a 4v4 against a clan
A click Snipe to projectiles is a big step, the wohle mechanics and terrain would need to be different. Different maps and modes would be a better step!
It's difficult to balance that ability, as if it's too good ppl will keep casting it. Maybe 5 credits shared between the team?
On June 24 2013 03:11 Fulla wrote: A click Snipe to projectiles is a big step, the wohle mechanics and terrain would need to be different. Different maps and modes would be a better step!
True. I would suggest bigger teams probably if anything and maybe a smaller map.
On June 24 2013 03:11 Fulla wrote: It's difficult to balance that ability, as if it's too good ppl will keep casting it. Maybe 5 credits shared between the team?
Yeah. We could try that out!
I recommend joining the Snipers Promod group on the NA server if you play on there; small chance.
Other than that. I would be more than willing to give more suggestions, ideas, and so forth. :D
Good news map has been updated at long last AND it will be re-featured by Blizzard tomorrow. Added to the started Edition again, so potentially there will be alot of players again.
On July 04 2013 05:38 Fulla wrote: Good news map has been updated at long last AND it will be re-featured by Blizzard tomorrow. Added to the started Edition again, so potentially there will be alot of players again.
Could you make me an officer please, Dakota, I'm on now but can't invite ppl :/
On July 04 2013 05:58 moskonia wrote: One of the best arcade games there are, how about a tournament? The Striker tournament seemed to be pretty popular
btw dakota i changed the loading screen so it says people to join the Group we made group in EU with same name so if people wanna meet other snipers from other servers is easier
tomorrow i should go play on US what is normal time you guys play on US ?
Recently , some friends complained about the latest changes made. They said the mod became really shitty , with all those gimmick stuff like blink , mines. Can you upload a - Classic version with only the Snipe & Cloak ability ? I'm sure oldest fans would apreciate.
EPT
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