Pickup Artist Charged for Attempted Murder. - Page 2

On January 11 2011 05:54 LazyMacro wrote:

Well then stay over there where you have gun control.

Don't ask us for help next time.

On January 11 2011 05:46 PanN wrote:
Wow, some girl dies and you make fucking jokes about it. If you did this in the Tuscon shooting thread, you'd be banned I'm sure.

On January 11 2011 05:53 PanN wrote:


Be quiet please, this type of discussion isn't warranted here. I also am going to call you a complete fool for your idiotic statement of "People with guns kill people". And no, I'm not going to debate you.

On January 11 2011 05:59 eLiE wrote:


Don't talk to me like that, would he have gone up to her and stabbed her if he didn't have a gun? Would he have beat her senseless? Guns make it so easy to kill people, they just have to pull a trigger and think they're all bad ass. Why can't discussing the use of guns be warranted? Don't be all elitist with your views like you're some leading expert in gun use.

EDIT: This is all I will say about the topic, since apparently there are other gun argument threads. Excerpt from This article.

A very different theory sees gun possession as causing murder by ordinary people not pre-disposed to crime. This theory holds that thousands of "gun murders [are committed] by law-abiding citizens who might have stayed law-abiding if they had not possessed firearms" -- for "the majority of homicide victims die not as a result of criminal activity, but because of arguments between people who know each other.... not from 'guns in the wrong hands,' but from the virtually unregulated distribution of an inherently dangerous consumer product...."2

On January 11 2011 05:43 d3_crescentia wrote:
I've read some of his stuff. Seems pretty standard for PUA advice.

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On January 11 2011 06:04 Impervious wrote:
The total number of firearms in Canada per person is similar to the USA. Total crime rates of the two countries is similar. It is relatively easy to obtain a legal or illegal firearm in either country. Both countries have similar social, economical, and cultural aspects for large portions of the populations (thanks to the "International Boundary"). And there are many other similarities. It's one of the best countries to use in a comparison, even though there is a massive difference in population, economy, etc, because the issue is more at an individual level, and this is where there are a lot of similarities.

However, Canada has a far lower "Violent" crime rate. Comparing other countries with many similarities yields similar results.

It's just too damn illogical. There's something wrong, and it's not the gun control laws. The USA has a judicial system designed to punish and deter this type of crime more than Canada, yet even that is not working as intended. The same can be said of other countries that would be useful in a comparison. There are cases where less strict or more strict control than the USA both lead to lower violent crime rates.

I don't what's wrong, nor do I know what the solution is. But it's pretty obvious to see what is not the problem, and what won't fix it. Seriously, no more gun control debates in a thread like this. It's completely pointless.

My condolences to the victim's family. Hopefully she recovers.

On January 11 2011 05:55 PanN wrote:


It's funny because you think you were witty there, but you really weren't.

On January 11 2011 05:43 d3_crescentia wrote:

Hope the girl is okay.

On January 11 2011 06:15 Pigsquirrel wrote:


Because murder victims usually are...

On January 11 2011 05:44 HeaDStrong wrote:


Still if you would not have 45% of the population owning a gun the less than 1% crimes would even be less significant. So a statement that the huge availability of guns does not correlate to crime is just ignorant.