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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:54 LazyMacro wrote: Well then stay over there where you have gun control. Don't ask us for help next time.  It's funny because you think you were witty there, but you really weren't. | ||
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Lucid90
Canada340 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:46 PanN wrote: Wow, some girl dies and you make fucking jokes about it. If you did this in the Tuscon shooting thread, you'd be banned I'm sure. she's not dead. She logged into her myspace and posted that she is thankful for being alive. She also has a criminal history for meth possession and some other crimes at 20 years old. Not exactly the type of girl a 'pickup master' should be bragging about. In my opinion the pickup industry is a big scam, lead by cult leaders that just change a lot for seminars and products and encourage you to act weird. The best advice is to stay away from this pickup industry and be normal. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
It would have been such a great opportunity to bash the ridiculous PUA scene. | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:53 PanN wrote: Be quiet please, this type of discussion isn't warranted here. I also am going to call you a complete fool for your idiotic statement of "People with guns kill people". And no, I'm not going to debate you. Don't talk to me like that, would he have gone up to her and stabbed her if he didn't have a gun? Would he have beat her senseless? Guns make it so easy to kill people, they just have to pull a trigger and think they're all bad ass. Why can't discussing the use of guns be warranted? Don't be all elitist with your views like you're some leading expert in gun use. EDIT: This is all I will say about the topic, since apparently there are other gun argument threads. Excerpt from This article. A very different theory sees gun possession as causing murder by ordinary people not pre-disposed to crime. This theory holds that thousands of "gun murders [are committed] by law-abiding citizens who might have stayed law-abiding if they had not possessed firearms" -- for "the majority of homicide victims die not as a result of criminal activity, but because of arguments between people who know each other.... not from 'guns in the wrong hands,' but from the virtually unregulated distribution of an inherently dangerous consumer product...."2 | ||
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wxwx
527 Posts
Then I kept reading down... and the extra jokes ended up being too much for me. LOLL | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
However, Canada has a far lower "Violent" crime rate. Comparing other countries with many similarities yields similar results. It's just too damn illogical. There's something wrong, and it's not the gun control laws. The USA has a judicial system designed to punish and deter this type of crime more than Canada, yet even that is not working as intended. The same can be said of other countries that would be useful in a comparison. There are cases where less strict or more strict control than the USA both lead to lower violent crime rates. I don't what's wrong, nor do I know what the solution is. But it's pretty obvious to see what is not the problem, and what won't fix it. Seriously, no more gun control debates in a thread like this. It's completely pointless. My condolences to the victim's family. Hopefully she recovers. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:59 eLiE wrote: Don't talk to me like that, would he have gone up to her and stabbed her if he didn't have a gun? Would he have beat her senseless? Guns make it so easy to kill people, they just have to pull a trigger and think they're all bad ass. Why can't discussing the use of guns be warranted? Don't be all elitist with your views like you're some leading expert in gun use. EDIT: This is all I will say about the topic, since apparently there are other gun argument threads. Excerpt from This article. A very different theory sees gun possession as causing murder by ordinary people not pre-disposed to crime. This theory holds that thousands of "gun murders [are committed] by law-abiding citizens who might have stayed law-abiding if they had not possessed firearms" -- for "the majority of homicide victims die not as a result of criminal activity, but because of arguments between people who know each other.... not from 'guns in the wrong hands,' but from the virtually unregulated distribution of an inherently dangerous consumer product...."2 Yes. On topic, having a record of substance abuse doesn't make you deserving of a bullet to the face, although I doubt that is what the person who said that was implying... | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
dont think being shot is "better than he found her" =\ | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:43 d3_crescentia wrote: I've read some of his stuff. Seems pretty standard for PUA advice. . I'm not overly familiar, but from the TV show they seemed to emphasize more subtlety and a genuine desire to become a more attractive man and excite women's desires, even if it was creepy/contrived sounding at times. This guy literally just gropes on until/if she says no. He sounds and looks more like a caveman. On January 11 2011 06:04 Impervious wrote: The total number of firearms in Canada per person is similar to the USA. Total crime rates of the two countries is similar. It is relatively easy to obtain a legal or illegal firearm in either country. Both countries have similar social, economical, and cultural aspects for large portions of the populations (thanks to the "International Boundary"). And there are many other similarities. It's one of the best countries to use in a comparison, even though there is a massive difference in population, economy, etc, because the issue is more at an individual level, and this is where there are a lot of similarities. However, Canada has a far lower "Violent" crime rate. Comparing other countries with many similarities yields similar results. It's just too damn illogical. There's something wrong, and it's not the gun control laws. The USA has a judicial system designed to punish and deter this type of crime more than Canada, yet even that is not working as intended. The same can be said of other countries that would be useful in a comparison. There are cases where less strict or more strict control than the USA both lead to lower violent crime rates. I don't what's wrong, nor do I know what the solution is. But it's pretty obvious to see what is not the problem, and what won't fix it. Seriously, no more gun control debates in a thread like this. It's completely pointless. My condolences to the victim's family. Hopefully she recovers. Not to reignite the gun control debate, but I recall that during the Finland school shooting it was revealed that Finland had a much higher gun ownership rate than the U.S. yet a fraction of the violent crime per capita. | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:55 PanN wrote: It's funny because you think you were witty there, but you really weren't. I wasn't trying to be witty. You wanted to think I wanted to be witty so you could try to be witty and tell me I wasn't witty. Wait...k yeah I think that makes sense. | ||
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Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:43 d3_crescentia wrote: Hope the girl is okay. Because murder victims usually are... He wouldn't be charged with murder is she wasn't dead. It would be attempted murder/something else. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
For crying out loud read the freaking article before you post. | ||
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MuNkz
Iceland90 Posts
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whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
On January 11 2011 05:44 HeaDStrong wrote: Still if you would not have 45% of the population owning a gun the less than 1% crimes would even be less significant. So a statement that the huge availability of guns does not correlate to crime is just ignorant. this is not true. Your logic is based on the idea that if you restrict gun ownership, that initial 1% (who are criminals anyways) who own guns and commit crimes with them would suddenly not commit crimes and give up guns because the law says so. No, they would just break another law and keep their firearms. Crimes of passion, cold-blood, etc. will happen regardless if there is a gun around. contrary to your beliefs, there is no correlation between lack of guns and reduction of crimes, and even if there was, correlation does not necessarily imply causation. All your stance does is restrict freedoms to the ordinary, law-abiding citizen, which we try too look down upon (and often fail to do, however) in the United States. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
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micronesia
United States24799 Posts
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