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Can't get girls... Why? - Page 5
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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Karliath
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Jstor
United States107 Posts
On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote: Oh god the stache... also grainy self shots. Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity. It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not. Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there. Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way. That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it. Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities. I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On January 10 2011 02:19 Chef wrote: You're thinking of women in the most superficial, dehumanizing way possible. Solutions available to you: Get lots of money, go to a club where lights are confusing and people are drunk, or stop reading guides on how to get girls and develop some kind of interesting personality. this, plus shave the stache and stop trying so hard. ive had friends who do the same thing... it's painfully obvious to women that they're not the first that have heard that line that week, and they probably not the last. if you rope em in with a gig, you have to keep up that gig to make them stay. be yourself, even if your self is a nerdy littleboy-ish looking asian. youll be much happier when you find someone who likes you for that | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On January 10 2011 01:57 Never.Die wrote: Sorry bro you just don't really look attractive D: Add in the fact he's probably infamous for approaching/creeping 10 girls a day at the local mall... I suggest not trying to get random chicks, especially 17 year olds. I dont know what movies/tv shows affected your views on relationships, but normal high school girls do not go around trying to find a boyfriend. They are probably just hanging out with their friends, and even if they found you attractive, they would not say yes or flirt back with a stranger. You should just be more socially active (in a healthy noncreepy way...), you're bound to find a girl that you actually like or a someone that share similarities with you. This coming from another 17 year old asian guy. Bottom line: being extremely horny/desperate is not an attractive quality. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote: Oh god the stache... also grainy self shots. Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity. It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not. Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there. Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way. That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it. Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities. I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it. LOL. Well played. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote: I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it. Oh you are gonna be severely disappointed that your effort means nothing. You "deserve" girls based on how attractive you are. Ever wonder why good looking guys don't need to try and get hot girls anyway? | ||
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Rustymike
Finland327 Posts
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AyeH
United States534 Posts
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gen.Sun
United States539 Posts
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote: Oh god the stache... also grainy self shots. Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity. It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not. Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there. Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way. That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it. Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities. I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it. that's the ultimate fallacy. It doesn't matter how hard you worked to produce a product, all that matters is whether if the customers like it. | ||
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