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IShowUMagic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States104 Posts
January 08 2011 20:07 GMT
#121
On January 09 2011 04:55 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 04:50 -dash wrote:
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I am not trying to fan the flames, but damn...


What is this from?



This is from the website of Giffords' recent opponent in the election.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 08 2011 20:07 GMT
#122
On January 09 2011 05:05 bITt.mAN wrote:
Daymu, that's brutal.

In any case, guess that'll be the permanent end of "Congressman on Your Corner", what congressman would risk it after this?


I know. A Congresswoman who actually goes and meets with the voters occasionally for their input, and she gets shot.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 08 2011 20:08 GMT
#123
So the Sarah Pac website first removed the crosshair on the map that was on Gifford and now the whole site is down... Someone is going "Oh shit" right about now..
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FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
January 08 2011 20:08 GMT
#124
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.
pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
January 08 2011 20:08 GMT
#125
On January 09 2011 05:04 007Kain wrote:
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Owning a gun doesn't make someone think "i should go kill that congresswoman and six other people"


No but it enables you to do it and its pretty easy to get a gun in america compared to other countries.



I don't go into threads and start talking about streusel, please don't come in threads and start talking about gun culture in the united states.

stop the gun control debate. go make your own thread.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 08 2011 20:09 GMT
#126
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting - Damn, Wikipedia is fast.
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
January 08 2011 20:10 GMT
#127
On January 09 2011 05:00 ragnasaur wrote:
why would anybody possibly want to shoot this woman?


She's a member of a US political party. This means both she and her adversaries are insane, delusional, and hurting the American people.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
January 08 2011 20:10 GMT
#128
On January 09 2011 05:01 DamnCats wrote:
gun control is not the problem here people, its god damn retards listening to Palin, Angle, Odonnel, Beck, Hannity, etc.

fuck.


I completely agree with this statement.

It sounds like she might be alive, which is crazy, though, less impossible things have happened. I hope she is still there though, if the bullet entered the brain whatsoever, then it's most likely she will have a ton of brain damage and never be the same again. There is a reason most people die instantly from a gun shot wound to the head, it's not pretty what a bullet can do.

It's crazy that people in public office, trying to serve, and doing things that she thinks is right(props to her for doing this street corner thing, it sounds really cool, going out and hearing the opinions of those that she serves)... and then getting shot... that really turns other politicians away from listening to us don't you think..
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10495 Posts
January 08 2011 20:11 GMT
#129
I can't wait for the Daily Show / Colbert Report on Monday. Probably the only 2 of the mainstream that have the guts to really call Palin out on this BS.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 08 2011 20:12 GMT
#130
I hope everything work out and she pulls through this tragic time without tainting her view on public exposure.

To all of you arguing gun control.

Fuck off.

A woman has been shot. This is a fucking human's body and life in peril and all you can think about is gun control? Are you are dense?
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:15:29
January 08 2011 20:13 GMT
#131
On January 09 2011 05:10 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:00 ragnasaur wrote:
why would anybody possibly want to shoot this woman?


She's a member of a US political party. This means both she and her adversaries are insane, delusional, and hurting the American people.



that may be the case, but a shooting is never justified. I wonder what she did/does that caused enough conflict to trigger a assassination attempt @_@.

arguments for/against gun control centers only around self defense, initiation of violence is something everyone hates.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 08 2011 20:14 GMT
#132
On January 09 2011 05:08 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.

It's part of the grander scheme of turning a political debate into a "war" which must be won for the sake of the future. It becomes a "cosmic" issue of greater importance, good and evil. This is what Palin, Beck and all the other Tea Party idiots have been doing for several years, and manipulating foolish people to secure their own careers.
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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
January 08 2011 20:15 GMT
#133
On January 09 2011 05:08 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.


Then I guess every citizen around the world who has ever supported a mass murdering tyrant was also just a complete bloody wretch because public figures don't have any influence over others with what they say. right?

Does no one remember the abortion doctor from kansas, tiller?

TILLER THE BABY KILLER! TILLER THE BABY KILLER! o'reilly had something like a dozen shows dedicated to TILLER THE BABY KILLER!!!!! finally someone, who watched o'reilly nightly and owned all of his books, shot the man while in church.

Does everyone remember when the california highway patrol stopped a man armed to the teeth on the highway? He was going to go kill everyone at the tides foundation. Guess who his favorite pundit was: glenn beck. Glenn beck had dedicated something like 10 of his shows to tides foundation and how they were destroying america in the span of a few months. Despite being a local left-leaning non-profit charity(local as in not national), glenn beck demonized them as the masterminds behind the downfall of america.


Don't even try and tell me that pundits don't have influence over the fringe elements of political groups.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 08 2011 20:16 GMT
#134
On January 09 2011 05:11 BlackJack wrote:
I can't wait for the Daily Show / Colbert Report on Monday. Probably the only 2 of the mainstream that have the guts to really call Palin out on this BS.


I doubt that. As much as a I loathe Palin and the rest of the far right in the US blaming this on them is extreme. Could be a Nazi, an anarchist, an anti-govt guy etc. Information is sketchy at best, and we should stop speculating.

Oh, and press conference coming up according to KOLD.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:18:12
January 08 2011 20:16 GMT
#135
On January 09 2011 05:12 Ummbeefy wrote:
I hope everything work out and she pulls through this tragic time without tainting her view on public exposure.

To all of you arguing gun control.

Fuck off.

A woman has been shot. This is a fucking human's body and life in peril and all you can think about is gun control? Are you are dense?


While obviously everyone on both sides of the gun control issue cares about this congresswoman's life, she was shot with a gun that was probably bought legally. Therefore, it's related to gun control. Whether or not there's a strong correlation between merely having guns and using them in a menacing manner is the controversy, but it is certainly going to flare up when random shootings like this occur, given the circumstances.

Expect it to come up. Don't blame them.

I hope Giffords recovers
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FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
January 08 2011 20:16 GMT
#136
On January 09 2011 05:15 pfods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:08 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.


Then I guess every citizen around the world who has ever supported a mass murdering tyrant was also just a complete bloody wretch because public figures don't have any influence over others with what they say. right?

Does no one remember the abortion doctor from kansas, tiller?

TILLER THE BABY KILLER! TILLER THE BABY KILLER! o'reilly had something like a dozen shows dedicated to TILLER THE BABY KILLER!!!!! finally someone, who watched o'reilly nightly and owned all of his books, shot the man while in church.

Does everyone remember when the california highway patrol stopped a man armed to the teeth on the highway? He was going to go kill everyone at the tides foundation. Guess who his favorite pundit was: glenn beck. Glenn beck had dedicated something like 10 of his shows to tides foundation and how they were destroying america in the span of a few months. Despite being a local left-leaning non-profit charity(local as in not national), glenn beck demonized them as the masterminds behind the downfall of america.


Don't even try and tell me that pundits don't have influence over the fringe elements of political groups.

Well i redact my statement. I was wrong. If there are people like you. then there are certianly those who are going to kill over a political poster cause it has a crosshair on it.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10495 Posts
January 08 2011 20:17 GMT
#137
On January 09 2011 05:16 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:11 BlackJack wrote:
I can't wait for the Daily Show / Colbert Report on Monday. Probably the only 2 of the mainstream that have the guts to really call Palin out on this BS.


I doubt that. As much as a I loathe Palin and the rest of the far right in the US blaming this on them is extreme. Could be a Nazi, an anarchist, an anti-govt guy etc. Information is sketchy at best, and we should stop speculating.

Oh, and press conference coming up according to KOLD.


Wanna bet on it? No doubt they will bring up the crosshair map and how Sarah Palin suspiciously removed it from her website after the incident.
Imhotep
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden267 Posts
January 08 2011 20:18 GMT
#138
"Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.

"Yeah," he told The Post. "The whole tea party." "
"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things." - Richard Feynman
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:19:47
January 08 2011 20:19 GMT
#139
I'm not sure if it was posted, but according to the tv, apparently a federal judge was there also who was shot.

God fucking damn it.
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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
January 08 2011 20:20 GMT
#140
On January 09 2011 05:05 bITt.mAN wrote:
Daymu, that's brutal.

In any case, guess that'll be the permanent end of "Congressman on Your Corner", what congressman would risk it after this?

Not just that, but even assuming this woman survives without some kind of permanent disabling injury, who's gonna want to step up to the plate and replace her after this?

If "getting shot" is going to be an occupational hazard of being a Democrat in certain states from now on, we're even more in trouble than I imagined.
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