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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
January 08 2011 20:20 GMT
#141
My understanding of the word "politically correct" is starting to be clouded. I don't want to get into whether you should blame Palin or not, but at the same time, there are some things that are obvious things to not do.
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:22:25
January 08 2011 20:20 GMT
#142
On January 09 2011 05:15 pfods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:08 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.


Then I guess every citizen around the world who has ever supported a mass murdering tyrant was also just a complete bloody wretch because public figures don't have any influence over others with what they say. right?

Does no one remember the abortion doctor from kansas, tiller?

TILLER THE BABY KILLER! TILLER THE BABY KILLER! o'reilly had something like a dozen shows dedicated to TILLER THE BABY KILLER!!!!! finally someone, who watched o'reilly nightly and owned all of his books, shot the man while in church.

Does everyone remember when the california highway patrol stopped a man armed to the teeth on the highway? He was going to go kill everyone at the tides foundation. Guess who his favorite pundit was: glenn beck. Glenn beck had dedicated something like 10 of his shows to tides foundation and how they were destroying america in the span of a few months. Despite being a local left-leaning non-profit charity(local as in not national), glenn beck demonized them as the masterminds behind the downfall of america.


Don't even try and tell me that pundits don't have influence over the fringe elements of political groups.


Yah but the tone was there. And it certainly needs to be addressed so that the tone of politics is made more respectful. This could be the militant far right.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
January 08 2011 20:21 GMT
#143
One of her press aides was killed apparently. Watching the stream. Sad stuff.
Life is Good.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 08 2011 20:21 GMT
#144
On January 09 2011 05:17 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:16 Hans-Titan wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:11 BlackJack wrote:
I can't wait for the Daily Show / Colbert Report on Monday. Probably the only 2 of the mainstream that have the guts to really call Palin out on this BS.


I doubt that. As much as a I loathe Palin and the rest of the far right in the US blaming this on them is extreme. Could be a Nazi, an anarchist, an anti-govt guy etc. Information is sketchy at best, and we should stop speculating.

Oh, and press conference coming up according to KOLD.


Wanna bet on it? No doubt they will bring up the crosshair map and how Sarah Palin suspiciously removed it from her website after the incident.


We can bet some e-Dollars But I doubt they will - they are too rational. They will comment on it, but I doubt they will blame anyone but the shooter and maybe co-conspirators.

Maybe in a week or so. Or if they shooter openly acknowledges doing this for Palin,
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 08 2011 20:21 GMT
#145
On January 09 2011 05:20 Krigwin wrote:
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On January 09 2011 05:05 bITt.mAN wrote:
Daymu, that's brutal.

In any case, guess that'll be the permanent end of "Congressman on Your Corner", what congressman would risk it after this?

Not just that, but even assuming this woman survives without some kind of permanent disabling injury, who's gonna want to step up to the plate and replace her after this?

If "getting shot" is going to be an occupational hazard of being a Democrat in certain states from now on, we're even more in trouble than I imagined.


I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to resign, but I'd give her massive props if she stays defiant and serves for a long time in spite of this.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 08 2011 20:23 GMT
#146
For all non us ppl who dont have that silver whatever addon to play the stream the CNN livestream works
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#147
Sarah Palin just took down the map from her site but it's already been copied etc.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
January 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#148
On January 09 2011 05:21 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:17 BlackJack wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:16 Hans-Titan wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:11 BlackJack wrote:
I can't wait for the Daily Show / Colbert Report on Monday. Probably the only 2 of the mainstream that have the guts to really call Palin out on this BS.


I doubt that. As much as a I loathe Palin and the rest of the far right in the US blaming this on them is extreme. Could be a Nazi, an anarchist, an anti-govt guy etc. Information is sketchy at best, and we should stop speculating.

Oh, and press conference coming up according to KOLD.


Wanna bet on it? No doubt they will bring up the crosshair map and how Sarah Palin suspiciously removed it from her website after the incident.


We can bet some e-Dollars But I doubt they will - they are too rational. They will comment on it, but I doubt they will blame anyone but the shooter and maybe co-conspirators.

Maybe in a week or so. Or if they shooter openly acknowledges doing this for Palin,


I can easily see them calling out their use of crosshairs, as well as call to second amendment rights... they won't go as far as saying that it's completely their fault, and that they should be punished or put on trial or something, that's obviously ridiculous, but some of these radical ideas floating around from both sides of the fence need to be controlled. You can't just go around talking about using force, it's really really dangerous to play with fire, and that's exactly what some of these people are doing.
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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
January 08 2011 20:26 GMT
#149
On January 09 2011 05:16 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:15 pfods wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:08 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 05:06 Kazius wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:52 FindingPride wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:39 ket- wrote:
How can Sarah Palin release a map with goddamn crosshairs and not get in trouble? That's really the one thing that bugs me with the US. Anywhere else (well, anywhere else decent) in the world you do that, your political career is absolutely over.

ye. This is why it happened. and exactly what the context was.
Cause we're that intelligent

No, because some people with guns are that intelligent. It takes one misguided person with a gun. Not the average person thinking that this is what is called for. One person can ruin things for everyone else. Things like that map with crosshairs don't incite masses to go on bloody rampages. But they may just help nudge certain people to act instead of talk. I'm not saying Palin incited murder, but to say that a prominent public figure using crosshairs as a metaphor for her targets carries some influence.

no. they are irrelevant. Much like reading catcher in the rye made someone kill john lennon. A crosshair on a map of america does not make people go out and kill each other. no. please get some common sense.


Then I guess every citizen around the world who has ever supported a mass murdering tyrant was also just a complete bloody wretch because public figures don't have any influence over others with what they say. right?

Does no one remember the abortion doctor from kansas, tiller?

TILLER THE BABY KILLER! TILLER THE BABY KILLER! o'reilly had something like a dozen shows dedicated to TILLER THE BABY KILLER!!!!! finally someone, who watched o'reilly nightly and owned all of his books, shot the man while in church.

Does everyone remember when the california highway patrol stopped a man armed to the teeth on the highway? He was going to go kill everyone at the tides foundation. Guess who his favorite pundit was: glenn beck. Glenn beck had dedicated something like 10 of his shows to tides foundation and how they were destroying america in the span of a few months. Despite being a local left-leaning non-profit charity(local as in not national), glenn beck demonized them as the masterminds behind the downfall of america.


Don't even try and tell me that pundits don't have influence over the fringe elements of political groups.

Well i redact my statement. I was wrong. If there are people like you. then there are certianly those who are going to kill over a political poster cause it has a crosshair on it.
MYBAD


I show you you're wrong and you act like a child. Thank you for your additions to this thread, they're much appreciated.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
January 08 2011 20:27 GMT
#150
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 08 2011 20:27 GMT
#151
Pres. Obama
This morning, in an unspeakable tragedy, a number of Americans were shot in Tuscon, Arizona, at a constituent meeting with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. And while we are continuing to receive information, we know that some have passed away, and that Representative Giffords is gravely wounded.
We do not yet have all the answers. What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society. I ask all Americans to join me and Michelle in keeping Representative Giffords, the victims of this tragedy, and their families in our prayers.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:28:18
January 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#152
Sarah Palin
My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona.
On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#153
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LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
January 08 2011 20:29 GMT
#154
On January 09 2011 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Sarah Palin just took down the map from her site but it's already been copied etc.


Its sad, shit like that wont even be talked about on the TV. Another (D) congressman from Arizona, whos name i didnt not get, said that politicians need to be more accountable for the things they say, and the way that they say it. Language used by politicians these days are extreme and can absolutely be interpreted as messages of violence
Live and Let Live
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
January 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#155
Carl Schmitt right now would be a very fitting political philosoper to use to analyze current American politics.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#156
On January 09 2011 05:28 Jumperer wrote:
Let's see how Glenn Beck react to this.


Remember when the woman fired shots at the military base because she said it was a FEMA concentration camp something of which Glenn Beck said was a reality, he blamed the media for blaming him.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 08 2011 20:31 GMT
#157
On January 09 2011 05:29 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Sarah Palin just took down the map from her site but it's already been copied etc.


Its sad, shit like that wont even be talked about on the TV. Another (D) congressman from Arizona, whos name i didnt not get, said that politicians need to be more accountable for the things they say, and the way that they say it. Language used by politicians these days are extreme and can absolutely be interpreted as messages of violence


Yeah, unfortunately most of the public won't know about that graphic.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2011 20:31 GMT
#158
Finally Shep Smith is on.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 08 2011 20:34 GMT
#159
I live in her district and have met her multiple times. Giffords was a really kind person and it is a fucking shame some douche felt he had to do this. Her and plenty of other innocent people have been shot and if they live, their lives are foreever changed.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
January 08 2011 20:34 GMT
#160
On January 09 2011 03:50 Emokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 03:45 Krigwin wrote:
Wait, which state was it where the Tea Party guy said for there to be "second amendment solutions"?

Tea Party candidate Sharron Angle say: "If we don't get what we want at the ballot box, we can always turn to our 2nd Amendment remedies."

It's the crazies that are ruining America. That's why once I'm out of College I'm getting the fuck out.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
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