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cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
May 30 2004 15:26 GMT
#81
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Be cool.
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
May 30 2004 15:26 GMT
#82
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
May 30 2004 15:27 GMT
#83
On May 31 2004 00:26 cjh wrote:
Myself and most of my cousins attended private religious schools, and church on a weekly basis for a term of our lives. I've been around plenty of religious folk.

In my experience, it's gone like this... The ones that truly believe and follow their faith, are suffering. The ones that claim to believe but don't put too much of themselves into it (Excalibur_Z seems like he might fall into this group), can be happy.


I don't know why most of your posts take a stab at me, but whatever. Don't think for a minute you know anything about me =] I'm just 1s and 0s to you!
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cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
May 30 2004 15:30 GMT
#84
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 30 2004 15:30 GMT
#85
I thought taeWook was.
Aqeloutro
Profile Joined October 2002
Spain614 Posts
May 30 2004 15:39 GMT
#86
On May 30 2004 22:13 AeroGx wrote:
I have a friend to who was an atheist and he was studying the eye for many years. After 6 years he says it is by far impossible to have something so intricate and carefully designed come about by blind luck.


What's more intrincate, an eye or a god that made the eye and everything else on the universe? We started with one thing we can't explain and you finished with two things we can't explain.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 30 2004 16:29 GMT
#87
Negative. We started with 1203896345 things we can't explain (basically I'm saing we can't explain anything) and ended with one thing we can't explain, God.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-30 16:44:02
May 30 2004 16:43 GMT
#88
um. u dont know whats "beyond" the universe (if anything) , what is before, or after, or how it works, if it does, etc. so it could be a 1 in infinite chance over infinite time.. and still happens. simple. the only way creationist arguments like the one that started this thread get any merit is by using conspiracy theories to justify a belief that the earth and the universe etc. are much younger than they seem to be
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
May 30 2004 17:03 GMT
#89
On May 31 2004 00:26 cjh wrote:

In my experience, it's gone like this... The ones that truly believe and follow their faith, are suffering.


your experiences are anomalous then
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 30 2004 17:03 GMT
#90
Stimey, may i ask what does your sig mean?
Im back, in pog form!
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
May 30 2004 17:04 GMT
#91
any similarity with my sig and an actual names is purely coincidental
Aqeloutro
Profile Joined October 2002
Spain614 Posts
May 30 2004 17:06 GMT
#92
On May 31 2004 01:29 Klogon wrote:
Negative. We started with 1203896345 things we can't explain (basically I'm saing we can't explain anything) and ended with one thing we can't explain, God.


If you can count the universe as 1203896345 things I can count God as 120389634500000000 things, for God is much more complex than the universe. The main difference is that we know for sure that the universe exists.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 30 2004 17:07 GMT
#93
That's getting really old STIME d okgm fish, it's basically a list of people you don't like. In no particular order, and the fact that you say "any similarity with my sig and an actual names is pure coincidental" is purely full of bullshit.

Anything I just wrote according to STIMEY d okgm fish, and STIMEY d okgm fish's profile in this post is purely coincidental.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-30 17:10:40
May 30 2004 17:08 GMT
#94
And im honored to be in your ignore list kakaka


My ignore list: Stimey omfg wtf stinky fish
Im back, in pog form!
orca9
Profile Joined May 2004
4 Posts
May 30 2004 17:58 GMT
#95
On May 30 2004 22:13 AeroGx wrote:
the odds of Creation without a Creator* (sorry for the typo) as we know it today are 1 to 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000


Suppose u had a random number generator that had a range of 1 - 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Although it's highly unlikly to generate, say, '7', if it did, then it's a fact that it generated it.

also suppose u threw a dice 10000000000000 times. u got some sequence of numbers, that the chances of getting this exact same sequence is 1/100000000000. that's not an amazingly lucky coiciedence, thats just what happened.



Mathemations regards anything over 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to be an impossiblity.


thats bullshit. Mathemations regards anything over 1 IN 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to have a possibility of 1 IN 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
May 30 2004 18:22 GMT
#96
On May 30 2004 22:32 cjh wrote:
These are questions nobody will ever have the answers to.

Excalibur_Z doesn't have them either, he's actually so far off it's sad.

But I think everybody would be best off if we were all atheists. Atheism isn't necessarily truth, but it is the one faith that doesn't promote violence, war, racism, generalized prejudice, masochism, murder, rape, terrorism, suicide, detrimental inhibitions, or misogyny.

And Christianity promotes these?You should really learn more about it..
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Archon_Pelucon
Profile Joined January 2004
Spain46 Posts
May 30 2004 18:27 GMT
#97
U think Universe cant exist without Divine intervention, but then God must exist before, and then we have the same problem, how god exist? Becouse if he can create the Universe, he is much more complex than Universe is. So possibilitties of God existing are by far lower than Universe existing without God.

Que vienen los archones y nos dejan pelucones!!!
Starfire.fX
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada59 Posts
May 30 2004 18:29 GMT
#98
On May 30 2004 22:13 AeroGx wrote:but ive done the research looked at the interviews and to be frank the odds of Creation without a Creator* (sorry for the typo) as we know it today are 1 to 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Mathemations regards anything over 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to be an impossiblity.
Jace



I'd love to see how you "researched" this... Like every other bullshit christian fundamentalist I can only assume you were reasing children's books about magic (Harry Potter anyone???) and some fake statistic caught your eye that you decided to inflate.

The Romans had a religion... You consider it foolish and wrong now.

The Greeks had a religion... You consider it foolish and wrong now.

The Muslims have a religion... You consider it foolish and wrong now.

The Hindus have a religion... You consider it foolish and wrong now.

All these religions... and all you eventually agree on is some "eternal" being controls and created everything.

Where's here's the most basic question for you: Where did he come from?

And when you answer, he has always existed for he is the forever... I answer with, you're own proof that creation exists without a creator is prrof that a creator could not exist without any other form of existence.

Consciousness is beyond current human understanding... and people need to throw away their worthless views of "religion" as an answer and either accept that as sentient beings you face insanity on a daily basis dealing with your own intelligence. Religion is a false comfort, there is no afterlife, what you accomplish in life is what you accomplish... You're legacy is based purely on your commitement to excellence.

Anyway, if anyone reads this and cares to argue I will prove them to be a moron beyond all question of the word moron.
Li.Echo
Profile Joined November 2003
United States122 Posts
May 30 2004 18:35 GMT
#99
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TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
May 30 2004 18:41 GMT
#100
i dont think any of us here is real atheist as we all say"oh thank god " omfg etc...
My life is so hard :(
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