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pyogenes
Profile Joined May 2003
Brazil1401 Posts
May 30 2004 14:14 GMT
#61
On May 30 2004 23:11 Klogon wrote:
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On May 30 2004 22:32 cjh wrote:
But I think everybody would be best off if we were all atheists. Atheism isn't necessarily truth, but it is the one faith that doesn't promote violence, war, racism, generalized prejudice, masochism, murder, rape, terrorism, suicide, detrimental inhibitions, or misogyny.

Yes because Stalin was such an angel.
hussein too!

but ithink his pint is that while the practice of atheism doesnt stop racism prejudice etc etc, from being in a person it doesnt create it in that peson
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 30 2004 14:17 GMT
#62
atheists are silly
willful denial of an entity's existence is de facto acknowledgement
JAM THE FUCKER!
AeroGx
Profile Joined October 2003
United States37 Posts
May 30 2004 14:18 GMT
#63
Well if theres god there has to be satan... god doesnt make bad things they decide to be bad.

Thats what Satan did and doesnt it make sense he'd be more then happy to spread his "overwhelming joy" at the progess in this world?

So eventually god going to have to step in.
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secrtagent
Profile Joined May 2004
United States119 Posts
May 30 2004 14:18 GMT
#64
Someday in the future, people will all look upon the various religions of today in the same manner scientists look upon the "gods" and religion of Greece. Even though greeks probably firmly believed in the existence and influence of many gods (sun god, sea god, god of war, etc.)...nowadays, its pretty much viewed as interesting, but nonetheless, nonsensical, myths.

We'll all have a good laugh at how gullible and vulnerable we really are . I am not trying to discourage religion... it is a very good guide to life and many people find comfort in believing in an afterlife. But one should take religion as just that... a guide to life... not the be all and end all of everything.
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
May 30 2004 14:21 GMT
#65
On May 30 2004 23:12 BroOd wrote:
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On May 30 2004 22:55 Vicious)Soul wrote:
On May 30 2004 22:54 BroOd wrote:
Not in the sense I was referring to, no.


explain please?


I wasn't making a broad social commentary, I had rather specific, obvious examples in mind, but as a general rule I try to abstain from theological discussion on here.


well it's ok, i think i have a general idea what ur talking about
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3174 Posts
May 30 2004 14:23 GMT
#66
On May 30 2004 23:18 secrtagent wrote:
Someday in the future, people will all look upon the various religions of today in the same manner scientists look upon the "gods" and religion of Greece. Even though greeks probably firmly believed in the existence and influence of many gods (sun god, sea god, god of war, etc.)...nowadays, its pretty much viewed as interesting, but nonetheless, nonsensical, myths.

We'll all have a good laugh at how gullible and vulnerable we really are . I am not trying to discourage religion... it is a very good guide to life and many people find comfort in believing in an afterlife. But one should take religion as just that... a guide to life... not the be all and end all of everything.

agreed
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
May 30 2004 14:24 GMT
#67
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Be cool.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-30 14:29:31
May 30 2004 14:26 GMT
#68
sda
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
May 30 2004 14:27 GMT
#69
Have you ever wondered if there are creatures on planets far far far away who have all the answers? just a thought! :D
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-30 14:29:43
May 30 2004 14:28 GMT
#70
:l
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
May 30 2004 14:41 GMT
#71
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
May 30 2004 14:43 GMT
#72
I find it interesting how much credit the people who criticize religion actually give it.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
May 30 2004 14:45 GMT
#73
cjh is da man
Im back, in pog form!
AeroGx
Profile Joined October 2003
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-30 15:07:30
May 30 2004 15:05 GMT
#74
On May 30 2004 23:24 cjh wrote:
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On May 30 2004 23:18 secrtagent wrote:
Someday in the future, people will all look upon the various religions of today in the same manner scientists look upon the "gods" and religion of Greece. Even though greeks probably firmly believed in the existence and influence of many gods (sun god, sea god, god of war, etc.)...nowadays, its pretty much viewed as interesting, but nonetheless, nonsensical, myths.

We'll all have a good laugh at how gullible and vulnerable we really are . I am not trying to discourage religion... it is a very good guide to life and many people find comfort in believing in an afterlife. But one should take religion as just that... a guide to life... not the be all and end all of everything.


Yeah, religion is a fantastic guide to life. "Put your penis into a woman's vagina and enjoy it, YOU WILL SPEND AN ETERNITY IN HELL ENDURING THE TORMENT OF A THOUSAND VICIOUS DEMONS AND FIERY BRIMSTONE, INFIDEL. SIEG HEIL"


Problem with sex is people just misuse it by not being married to person BEFORE they make love.. why do you think we have STDs?
But although god may not approve of premarrital sex isn't it illogical to think he'd deliver us into a fiery hell to burn and burn and burn??
1 John 4:8 says "...God is Love." Interestingly enough Romans 6: 7 says "He who has died has been aquitted from his sin."
To be frank many many ministers have a hard time impressing the seriousness of sin to people so the clergy class had to come up with something to scare people into serving god... "Hellfire".
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cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
May 30 2004 15:09 GMT
#75
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 30 2004 15:10 GMT
#76
Its all about faith in something.
Moonlight Shadow
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 30 2004 15:12 GMT
#77
On May 30 2004 22:13 AeroGx wrote:
ive done the research looked at the interviews and to be frank the odds of creation


Whoops, just noticed this part. Opinion'D!
Moonlight Shadow
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 30 2004 15:14 GMT
#78
On May 30 2004 23:41 cjh wrote:
Few of them are happy. Most are suffering on the inside.

Many of them will even readily admit that they are suffering. They simply state that they are more concerned with the eternal afterlife than they are with their lives on Earth.

Most of them are taught this bullshit from birth. Pounded into their heads as early as age 2, if you disobey the lord you will be forever damned to a Hell filled with the worst pain and suffering you could ever imagine.

Answer me this: If a girl is constantly told from age 2 to 14 that she is a worthless stupid trashy slut whore, how do you think the remainder of her life will be spent? She'll likely do a ton of drugs and alcohol and have many many sexual partners and probably be a rape victim a number of times, until she either dies or eventually decides to spend the rest of her life recovering from the horrible emotional trauma that she experienced age 2 to 14.

With religion it's a little different. Few people tell you that it's wrong and the ones that do are very easily dismissed as false, so people who have religion pounded into their heads from birth never recover. Instead they're like the girl who believed she was a worthless stupid trashy slut whore until she died.

It's not difficult to maintain faith when you're born with it being forced down your throat; just as it's expected that the girl would go on to lead the life of a worthless stupid trashy slut whore.

I could think of a few much better analogies than the one above, but I've already typed a ton so that's what you get. =[

The same thing could be said about being raised with Evolution in school, as well as sex, drugs, etc.

And seeing as you know very little about the religion (a few posts made it blatantly obvious), you have no clue when you say "Few of them are happy. Most are suffering on the inside." I mean that could be applied to anybody as well. How many TRUELY happy people do you know anyways? Double standards suck.
AeroGx
Profile Joined October 2003
United States37 Posts
May 30 2004 15:16 GMT
#79
On May 31 2004 00:12 useless wrote:
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On May 30 2004 22:13 AeroGx wrote:
ive done the research looked at the interviews and to be frank the odds of creation


Whoops, just noticed this part. Opinion'D!


Yeah...sry for the typo =X
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
May 30 2004 15:19 GMT
#80
On May 30 2004 23:27 Ryan307 wrote:
Have you ever wondered if there are creatures on planets far far far away who have all the answers? just a thought! :D


Xel Naga
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