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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:18 GMT
#441
nope, there are no other options, there is a god, or ther is NOT a god.

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FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
June 02 2004 08:19 GMT
#442
not quite.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:21 GMT
#443
Sorry freak, that post wasnt directed to you, i forgot to quote...
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
June 02 2004 08:21 GMT
#444
ah, okay
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 08:24:24
June 02 2004 08:22 GMT
#445
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:24 GMT
#446
On June 02 2004 17:17 Element)FrEaK wrote:
Well, Buddhist religion makes alot of sense if you read up on it. I don't really follow the belief system but the meditative techniques.

Wicca is the main religion I follow and if you have time, I'd gladly explain our concepts of the universe. Most atheists that I talk to agree that they make alot of sense.


Anyone who ha really tought about their religion and dared to see beyond that have my respect, the decition you take is good, and any opinion of a person capable of doing that is worth to listen.

I am totally nihilist in all esoteric stuff, so i take western religion as a more profound thinking, but i cannot consider it as true.

I remember a flash animation about GOD, with wise words for that suppoused "god", i liked it very much, because of the wisdom, but the deity was just ignored.

so if you want to share your knowledge, conclusions and beliefs im totally open to it
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 08:28:17
June 02 2004 08:26 GMT
#447
On June 02 2004 17:17 Element)FrEaK wrote:
Well, Buddhist religion makes alot of sense if you read up on it. I don't really follow the belief system but the meditative techniques.

Wicca is the main religion I follow and if you have time, I'd gladly explain our concepts of the universe. Most atheists that I talk to agree that they make alot of sense.


that was kind of what i was getting at. a lot of religions (maybe all?) contain more than some arbitrary silly dogma and specific taboos etc. within all that, usually via symbolism and rhetoric, are truly decent arguments and teachings for living a good life and operating your mind. unfortunately most people focus more on the arbitrary and fantastical dogmas (i.e. "buddhists believe in reincarnation, christians hate abortion and fags, believe in one deity and the deity put his son which was almost him and died and rose from the dead and performed magic tricks and u should pray to them to go to heavnen") and less on the most valuable parts of religious traditions
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:27 GMT
#448
On June 02 2004 17:22 GoSexyPerli wrote:
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On June 02 2004 17:18 baal wrote:
nope, there are no other options, there is a god, or ther is NOT a god.



Yes, but you dont know whats true. Nobody does. Christians say all these gay mircales happen(bullshit). Athiests say science is #1 and according to science, supernatural cannot exist( also bullshit ).

Both theorys have holes the size of that girl who shot a football out of her Vag.

my theory is, WE ARE ALL WRONG!

and, to the people that think there is a old white guy with a setup of scarface esque security camera in the clouds watching over our expiditions through existence! .



Well you are also like here [---||-----------------------] in my scale hehehe

you are just not willing to give up your human need to belive in things beyond you.
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
June 02 2004 08:28 GMT
#449
seems more like a msn or PM thing to chat over. People aren't usually interested in the wiccan point of view

We're only the 4th most common religion in the world
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:28 GMT
#450
On June 02 2004 17:26 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2004 17:17 Element)FrEaK wrote:
Well, Buddhist religion makes alot of sense if you read up on it. I don't really follow the belief system but the meditative techniques.

Wicca is the main religion I follow and if you have time, I'd gladly explain our concepts of the universe. Most atheists that I talk to agree that they make alot of sense.


that was kind of what i was getting at. a lot of religions (maybe all?) contain more than some arbitrary silly dogma and specific taboos etc. within all that, usually via symbolism and rhetoric, are truly decent arguments and teachings for living a good life and operating your mind. unfortunately most people focus more on the arbitrary and fantastical dogmas (i.e. "buddhists believe in reincarnation, christians hate abortion and fags") and less on the most valuable parts of religious traditions


Stinkey D OMFG Fish... sometimes you are a prick, but sometimes you are really an smart dude
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
June 02 2004 08:31 GMT
#451
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 02 2004 08:32 GMT
#452
On June 02 2004 17:31 GoSexyPerli wrote:
I believe there is an infinite amount of knowledge beyond me, unreachable.


that can be closer to the truth for some more than others :D
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 08:41:17
June 02 2004 08:35 GMT
#453
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 08:40:14
June 02 2004 08:38 GMT
#454
well theres an unknowable (my guess) amount of stuff beyond the universe. maybe nothing, maybe almost everything. not to mention the known universe itself, which is well pretty big dude. but no matter how much we know i dont think we can be sure how much more there is beyond our "available knowables". basically the universe could be all there is, or it could be virtually no time and no matter compared to the rest

maybe im wrong tho and theres a way to know for sure everything beyond everything and be certain theres nothing more. but i think ppl just have to learn to live with the potential that theres more we arent able to ever know because it's beyond the limits we exist within. we can always imagine an outside, another dimension, soemthing beyond the way our universe works, beyond even every compontent and rule we know, something more basic that we just havent found yet, etc.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
June 02 2004 08:40 GMT
#455
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
June 02 2004 08:43 GMT
#456
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RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 02 2004 08:45 GMT
#457
On June 02 2004 17:28 Element)FrEaK wrote:
seems more like a msn or PM thing to chat over. People aren't usually interested in the wiccan point of view

We're only the 4th most common religion in the world
and what % would that be?
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
June 02 2004 08:46 GMT
#458
Well i agree there is knowledge we dont conquest yet... (and maybe we will extingish before we do)

but you are loosing focus, you belive there IS a deity, or there IS NOT a deity


BTW i love religion threads, it makes easier to set aside dumb people from living minds



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RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 02 2004 08:46 GMT
#459
On June 02 2004 17:22 GoSexyPerli wrote:
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On June 02 2004 17:18 baal wrote:
nope, there are no other options, there is a god, or ther is NOT a god.



Yes, but you dont know whats true. Nobody does. Christians say all these gay mircales happen(bullshit).

you base the entire religion on what a person declares a miracle in their life? i'm not even going to try to converse with you
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
June 02 2004 08:48 GMT
#460
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