Question for atheist - Page 21

On June 02 2004 01:52 travis wrote:


I could.

Organized bits of matter does not create a consciousness.

Millions of geniuses have believed in a god, whether defined by a known religion or not.

On May 30 2004 22:15 Ryan307 wrote:
if you give 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 monkeys 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 typewriters they will produce the works of shakespeare.

well, probably not, but you know what i'm trying to say.

I'm agnostic myself.

On June 02 2004 11:48 baal wrote:
Its not "randomness" by the way, atoms makes complex and more complex structures, leading to a lifeform is unevitable, it doesnt matter how many randomness in the big bang is, it will always create a lifeform, and probably with time superior atom masses, pure energy benigs maybe, who knows.

But its stupid to think this is a "random" event, cause its not, its a natural, logic, non-created step in universe expansion.


BTW stimey its good to see im not in your ignore list anymore, and its even better to see that actually you are smart enough to have a little bit of introspection and fine criticism.

On June 02 2004 07:03 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
The existence of consciousness provides no evidence whatsoever for anything very much. We do not understand consciousness; we do not even have the conceptual framework to think or discourse clearly on the subject. Attempting to use it as evidence for the existence (or non-existence for that matter) of God or anything else is a complete and utter dead end.

On June 02 2004 07:53 Tien wrote:


The point you make is that "Organized bits of matter does not create a consciousness." Prove it. Are you just trying to use your logic to make such an assumption without ANY FACTS to support you? Well unfortunately for you according to biology, amino acids were able to be formed experimentally when enough heat or pressure was applied to certain elements. As we evolve there is a good possibility that consciousness will come about. If we all thought the way you did, we would still be living in the stone age thinking only God can unravel the mysteries of life. From monkeys we came, not Adam and Eve, not God.

Please, do not mix religion with science, science has no room for religion. Just because we are conscious of ourselves doesnt mean it is impossible for evolution to create us that way. Yet your theories about a God are still unproven in the domain of science. Stick to morality and religion, thats where God was invented, and thats where God should remain. He has no business in the realm of science.

When Galileo was asked where God fit into his equations and explanations, he simply replied "I have no need for such a hypothesis."

EDIT: Scientifically there should be no reason why God exists either.

On June 02 2004 15:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
"if you give 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 monkeys 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 typewriters they will produce the works of shakespeare."

god, I'm so incredibly tired of people fucking that up.

it's not 5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 or ANY NUMBER. even if the number has a fucking BAZILLION 0's in it. if you write a number, it DOES NOT WORK.

it's an INFINITE amount of monkeys with an INFINITE amount of typewriters.

in fact, if you give an infinite amount of monkeys an infinite amount of typewriters, you'll reproduce an infinite amount of shakespeare's works. you'll also have an infinite amount of papers going 784237214g32krjbasjfbdsafta78t4wntkdzxbhg7xh789t45ehstlrh5u
and tjk4hert874nf87xng5xe8ng5oexnt7849hs

and "lol"
and "why are people fucking up that quote so often"

in fact the monkeys would also reproduce this very post an infinite amount of times.

On June 02 2004 16:24 Liquid`Spy wrote:


what the hell do monkeys and typewriters have to do with the bible?
oh wait...

On June 02 2004 16:10 travis wrote:


Why would I have to prove it? Your post doesn't even make any fucking sense. I was just making a post stating that as I said, things are not so simple.

How about you prove to me that organized bits of matter can create a consciousness, since you seem to think so.


" Well unfortunately for you according to biology, amino acids were able to be formed experimentally when enough heat or pressure was applied to certain elements. As we evolve there is a good possibility that consciousness will come about"

WHAT? WHAT?
Explain how evolution of a physical being can create self-awareness. How does any physical part of me allow me to recognize the fact that I exist. Wow, good job dumbass.