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Liquid`Drone
Norway28916 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Did you not take into consideration that we were very well off scientifically until the catholic church took over up. Science was pretty much dead from then until the renaissance. Nice try though. | ||
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baal
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On June 02 2004 16:32 RuGbUg wrote: Well who knows what God is? Not contained by our dimension, laws of physics, or matter in any way, He could even be some sort of substance which we cannot comprehend being limited in this dimension. I just want you to know that if there is such a being, he really doesnt care if you masturbate, if you have premarital sex or any idiotic stuff dude, if you truly belive in a higher being give it some credit! | ||
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Krzych
Poland693 Posts
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I'm actually done with this thread only started in it cause I was bored. | ||
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baal
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On June 02 2004 16:39 Element)FrEaK wrote: RugBug, your argument is that because some scientists have been religious that religion helps science? Did you not take into consideration that we were very well off scientifically until the catholic church took over up. Science was pretty much dead from then until the renaissance. Nice try though. Considering the picture you posted in IGSA, i guess i already know your opinion heheheh >  BTW you are look is even cooler than Reach's | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Im not a satanist. Nor am I of an evil religion. Nor am I atheist. Nor do I have a problem with christian beliefs. If its none of those, what were you implying? | ||
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baal
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i would be an idiot to think that you are a satanist lol. then what are you freak? | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
alot of meditation in my life, nature based religions are the shit. | ||
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baal
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On June 02 2004 16:56 Element)FrEaK wrote: Wiccan/Buddhist alot of meditation in my life, nature based religions are the shit. Well i have to admitt its better than catholic, christian, jeovah's testicle ^^, jew or whatev... Anyway i expected more from someone who had such a look > | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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It has alot to do with why I wear black. | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
On June 02 2004 16:41 Krzych wrote: it's plain stupid to look at chances of something happening when it has already happened! if you're to take 6 balls randomly from a basket with 49 balls you've got about 1/14 000 000 chances of getting one particular combination. almost impossible. but still there's always someone who wins the lottery! yes, exactly, and when people look at how the universe appears to be, it's like looking at a particular 1/14 000 000 result and saying "wow, how can this be possible?" well duh _someone_ is gonna roll 7's _somewhere_ given enough time, it's not a fucking mircale at all | ||
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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baal
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On June 02 2004 17:04 Element)FrEaK wrote: Why is that? I'd be surprised if you even knew the basics of the wiccan religion. It has alot to do with why I wear black. you are right i do not know them. And well for me, its a gradient from Smart (not raw IQ) to dumb gradient. Considering an Atheist (self convinced atheist, not "i havent tought about it" atheist) the most advanced level of thinking and the most ortodox religious people as the most idiotic. so lets say that in my personal sacle you are like this: Self convinced [----||-----------------------------] Idiot. Atheist. Keep in mind this is in a way of "stupid", not IQ nor other aspects, this is about introspection and actual thinking. | ||
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baal
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On June 02 2004 17:06 GoSexyPerli wrote: then this is a sad fucking existence we are taking part in. Tough enough to accept it and embrace it? become atheist Pussy sissy girly biatch who cant take it? Go religious | ||
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
On June 02 2004 17:06 GoSexyPerli wrote: continue to debate this, dumb. follow what you feel in you're heart and brain, smart. I think we can all agree that if this is all there is, just this earth, and no mysteries in the universe, then this is a sad fucking existence we are taking part in. well theres a big diff between believing there's mysteries and believing some earthly mythical tradition tells you what the mysteries are. if u believe there's something beyond our reality and something more to our significance, our feelings, etc. then that's all well and good. but if u think the bible and jesus and god are obviously the truth about the universe then u really should think a little more carefully. those things came from earth, one planet, one time, not too far in the past.. it's ridiculous to think something powerful outside of our universe that has to do with our bodiless eternal essences comes from some thousand year old jew rhetoric story telling myth tradition, not to mention the dark ages and the catholic church and all that history.. look, even if there is more outside the universe that gives more meaning to our lives, so what? then what is outside of that? the point is, we're _always_ boxed in, be it a house, a continent, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy, a universe.. a.. supernatural deity kind of thing beyond universes.. or whatever. it's still mundane once you know it, and you can _always_ imagine a further unknown. maybe some people just need to, but personally i think you should make do with what is knowable to you and just try to imagine what is possible rather than get dogmatic about some tradition of explaining some unknowables when most likely it is just as unknowable to them as it is to you. i would put more trust in people who try to tell you about the nature of the human consciousness and living a human life than those who try to tell you to give it all up and get in line for something and that this life doesnt matter compared to the next -- that kind of thinking seems highly prone to exploitation to me. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Wicca is the main religion I follow and if you have time, I'd gladly explain our concepts of the universe. Most atheists that I talk to agree that they make alot of sense. | ||
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