EPTMohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee - Page 23
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hk[hanbyul]
Canada149 Posts
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sKy.Fennix
Canada220 Posts
On May 30 2004 09:24 Tien wrote: Sakaruba is the best. what happened to him? Just me or is he not fighting anymore. If you find your own money to train then spend it on these places to train. Just make sure you find a school that is not full of bullshit that makes you spend 10 years to finish with it. Go with something that doesnt teach forms either, imo, forms are the most useless garbage. If all the schools replaced forms with sparring, everyone would be 10x better. fucking bull-shit. forms are not useless garbage. In the days when ppl were creating these forms, the did it for a reason. For example: Matsomora the Samurai created the famous Shoinryu form "Seisan" for his wife. The movements were all catered around the fact that she had to carry a baby on her back with one hand. After studying martial arts (Issinryu) for many years, I can easily tell you that you know nothing. Forms are loaded with strange moves for a reason, by picking them apart there are soo many chokes, knock out strikes, sweeps throws and others. The creators of these old forms used them to save their lives with the moves. They were created in order to pass these moves on through the generations. Garbage my ass. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On May 30 2004 10:04 hk[hanbyul] wrote: jhoon rhee was the one that taught bruce how to kick, but eventually he kicked better than him, and later he said he would never go 1v1 vs bruce lee because he was too fast. Dan inosanto taught him nanchucks but he eventually became better than him also. Hrm strange how a philipino stylist could teach Bruce how to handle nunchucks (a Japanese weapon) :O | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On May 30 2004 10:19 sKy.Fennix wrote: fucking bull-shit. forms are not useless garbage. In the days when ppl were creating these forms, the did it for a reason. For example: Matsomora the Samurai created the famous Shoinryu form "Seisan" for his wife. The movements were all catered around the fact that she had to carry a baby on her back with one hand. After studying martial arts (Issinryu) for many years, I can easily tell you that you know nothing. Forms are loaded with strange moves for a reason, by picking them apart there are soo many chokes, knock out strikes, sweeps throws and others. The creators of these old forms used them to save their lives with the moves. They were created in order to pass these moves on through the generations. Garbage my ass. Forms had their place in a country where martial arts may not have frowned upon, most of the population was illiterate (thus being used as a way of passing down moves). In todays, mostly, literate world forms are good for 2 things: 1) Aestethic value in forms competitions 2) Giving martial arts instructors something to occupy their students time, making them stay longer etc. That person could have gotten much better practice by putting on a backpack, strapped it on in the same way as how whatever she was carrying her baby in would be strapped on, and filled it with stuff to make it the same approximate weight. Then she could have practiced ^_^ The moves may be in the forms, but there are much more useful ways of learning them (Like say, oh I don't know, just teach them?). Forms do nothing for your fighting ability and may even make it worse -_- You are better of shadowboxing (not a set pattern), hitting the bag or sparring  All in all, for a martial artist interested in actual fighting application and not just forms competitions/tradition, forms are a complete waste of time. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
plus, I spar much better than anyone in my dojo that performs hours of forms. All I do is practice the the basic techniques, nothing fancy. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
Pierre: can you break five or six pieces of wood with your hand or foot? Bruce Lee: I'd probably break my hand and foot! (they both laugh) Pierre: tell me a little bit....you set up a school in Hollywood didn't you? ^_^ He seems like he had a nice sense of humour too o_O http://usuarios.lycos.es/bruce/entrev.htm | ||
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hk[hanbyul]
Canada149 Posts
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hk[hanbyul]
Canada149 Posts
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FBS1
United Kingdom875 Posts
On May 30 2004 12:26 hk[hanbyul] wrote: i've seen a clip where he sidekicked 5 pieces of wood and 1 inch punched 3 pieces it was awesome. Where did you get these clips? | ||
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kuwakJai
Thailand198 Posts
On May 29 2004 23:43 baal wrote: Ill only forgive you because of that amat's tits joke XD sure it been said b4 but it sure aint no joke. there is no need to forgive. u want play i show u the circus | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
I thought Chuck Norris was the one that taught Bruce Lee about high kicks. I saw it in a documentary when Chuck Norris said Bruce Lee first stuck to the idea of only kicks below the waste. And as Bruce and Chuck sparred more Bruce's philosophy changed. And yes, Dan Inosanto did teach Bruce how to use Numchuks. The thing about Bruce is that whenever someone taught him a certain technique, within a short amount of time he would perform that technique much better than the person that taught him. He thought about martial arts day in and day out. He drove his car squeezing a tennis ball. He flew in a plane and was hitting a punching mitt. He regularly curled a 35 pound dumbbell while reading and stretching at the same time. Bruce Lee lived, eat, and breathed Martial arts from the moment he woke up to the moment he fell asleep. Its the little things like that that seperated him from the rest of the world. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On May 30 2004 14:10 kuwakJai wrote: sure it been said b4 but it sure aint no joke. there is no need to forgive. u want play i show u the circus omg shut up kid... get a grip | ||
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kuwakJai
Thailand198 Posts
didnt fetus tell u not to step into other ppl's yard without first cleaning the shit from your shoe? guess not. look at urself. | ||
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NewbSaibot
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Kontra[MDK]
Portugal1013 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
but thats only because those fighters probably did not realize how much different fighting against kicks is | ||
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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taeWook
United States1367 Posts
On May 30 2004 16:32 RuGbUg wrote: for those who haven't seen the video of bruce lee sending the bag flying into the ceiling, it's really not that impressive. he goes running across the room, takes a few hops, and does a slip-side kick with his body almost parallel to the ground (like hes really leaned back) I don't think i could do it, but it's really not what I bet most of you are picturing, it looks super awkward with him running up to the bag and all... Wrong. He did it standing. No running start. And what about the one inch punch, that sends the guy flying 10 ft? The amount of force from that punch could have broken the guys ribcage and destroyed his vital organs. One of those punches would tear ali's head off, literally. | ||
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