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On July 07 2010 05:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:35 kajeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks. So, here is the big reveal: They Do Not Want People Like You Posting. A couple of posts under your real name on the official Blizzard forums will not hurt your career. I *know* this to be true. But several posts may. Hundreds or thousands will almost certainly have some effect. But you will take your anonymous posting elsewhere. Which is EXACTLY what they want. They do NOT want people like you chattin' it up on their forums: they don't want you to spam, they don't want you to participate in gigantic discussions about how OP paladins are, they don't want you to flame anyone. And so you will limit yourself to 1-5 harmless posts. Which is exactly what they want from you. See?  ... No, I don't see - they don't want articulate and intelligent posters?
Well, It's a matter of statistics. They feel like the amount of trolls they can get rid of is worth the amount of intelligent posters that would leave. And given the current state of the Bnet forums, I don't think many intelligent posters would want anything to do with them to begin with.
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On July 07 2010 05:38 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:36 chraej. wrote:On July 07 2010 05:29 Auronz wrote:On July 07 2010 04:32 Offhand wrote:On July 07 2010 03:51 Mulloy wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Michael David Mulloy II Gozoku@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloyHave fun? 27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter. Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call. And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon. Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information? So, what you gonna do now to him? Murder him in cold blood? Take a plane to do that? I bet nobody will. going from that principle, anybody could get annoyed at you in facebook or some other site and then murder you in cold blood because it always says where you live and your name in those social relation sites. Bnet is probably becoming a more honest place, and for the love of god, why the hell would you be ashamed of gaming? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/05/27/2010-05-27_video_gamer_hunts_down_stabs_man_who_killed_his_online_counterstrike_character.html...oops? Charles Manson was inspired by the Beatles!! Rock music must be stopped because it inspired KILLERS!!!
not the point at all. he just said he didnt think it was likely - however it happens. having your REAL info out there is not a good idea
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Be comfortable with what you do, closet gaming is lame. If people don't like you, the reason's probably something other than you play video games.
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On July 07 2010 05:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:35 kajeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks. So, here is the big reveal: They Do Not Want People Like You Posting. A couple of posts under your real name on the official Blizzard forums will not hurt your career. I *know* this to be true. But several posts may. Hundreds or thousands will almost certainly have some effect. But you will take your anonymous posting elsewhere. Which is EXACTLY what they want. They do NOT want people like you chattin' it up on their forums: they don't want you to spam, they don't want you to participate in gigantic discussions about how OP paladins are, they don't want you to flame anyone. And so you will limit yourself to 1-5 harmless posts. Which is exactly what they want from you. See? ... No, I don't see - they don't want articulate and intelligent posters?
They don't get articulate and intelligent posters with the current system they have where people can attack anyone they want because of the protection of being anonymous. I make intelligent posts, and I will be grateful to post in their official forums when all the anonymous attacking by kids are kept at a bare minimum because they cannot hide behind aliases anymore.
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United States22154 Posts
Well, I'm sure Blizzard will change its mind as soon as the blues begin receiving prank calls *all day* and annoying messages on fb, because every single damn troll on those forums will have a new pastime, I mean who needs to spam the forums when you can, with little effort, spam the authorities on those forums.
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On July 07 2010 05:40 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:29 Auronz wrote:On July 07 2010 04:32 Offhand wrote:On July 07 2010 03:51 Mulloy wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Michael David Mulloy II Gozoku@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloyHave fun? 27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter. Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call. And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon. Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information? So, what you gonna do now to him? Murder him in cold blood? Take a plane to do that? I bet nobody will. going from that principle, anybody could get annoyed at you in facebook or some other site and then murder you in cold blood because it always says where you live and your name in those social relation sites. Bnet is probably becoming a more honest place, and for the love of god, why the hell would you be ashamed of gaming? People have tracked others down online and murdered/assaulted them before. Your point is moot and its terrifying that announcing private info is so casual and ok with you.
It's not people, it's individuals with an illness who tracks people down to murder them. Ordinary gamers are not psychos.
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On July 07 2010 05:42 ikkyixo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 07 2010 05:35 kajeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks. So, here is the big reveal: They Do Not Want People Like You Posting. A couple of posts under your real name on the official Blizzard forums will not hurt your career. I *know* this to be true. But several posts may. Hundreds or thousands will almost certainly have some effect. But you will take your anonymous posting elsewhere. Which is EXACTLY what they want. They do NOT want people like you chattin' it up on their forums: they don't want you to spam, they don't want you to participate in gigantic discussions about how OP paladins are, they don't want you to flame anyone. And so you will limit yourself to 1-5 harmless posts. Which is exactly what they want from you. See? ... No, I don't see - they don't want articulate and intelligent posters? They don't get articulate and intelligent posters with the current system they have where people can attack anyone they want because of the protection of being anonymous. I make intelligent posts, and I will be grateful to post in their official forums when all the anonymous attacking by kids are kept at a bare minimum because they cannot hide behind aliases anymore.
Or, they could moderate the forum.
... "connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before."
This definitely will be the case, one way or another...... Not sure I'm a huge fan of the most likely ways this connection will manifest.
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Next step is to get our Social Security Numbers......
WTF, blizz... need to concentrate on phase 2 date
Not on those ass9’s ideas.
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I've been using a fake last name for the net for years. Its that easy.
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I don't want to be lost in the posts! No...no..nooooo!!!!! AHHHH!!
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On July 07 2010 03:58 Kishime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:52 LSGamer wrote:On July 07 2010 03:47 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:45 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:42 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:38 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:34 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
A bunch of people like you have already made posts just like the one you made and a few posts later someone posts thier identifying info. I know you think your being clever. Your not. And what is the negative associated with someone posting my "identifying info?" I am not even going to dignify this kind of stupidity with an answer. AKA you have no answer. Nobody cares who I am or who you are. Nothing would happen. LOL I keep forgeting there are still people out there who dont know its important to protect their privacy online. Its nice to meet one finally. Oh and if you want info Yahoo usually runs an article like once a week to remind soccer moms and such about common sense things like this. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what would happen to me because someone knows my first and last name after choosing to reveal it on a video game forum. Don't tell them, let them be blissfully ignorant of identify theft and blackmail/threats I can't tell if you're joking or not. I will say that if I get a letter in my mailbox penned in blood with my social security number, bank account info, pictures of my family gagged in a basement, and also telling me my days are numbered for taking this too lightly, I will admit defeat. Orrrr... maybe nothing will happen because nobody is going to care enough to do anything to me over a video game argument that I CHOSE TO TAKE PART IN BY POSTING WHERE I KNEW MY FIRST AND LAST NAME WOULD BE REVEALED.
good for you, now how bout ten year old kids?
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On July 07 2010 05:01 ikkyixo wrote:
I'd rather have a polite and well mannered, constructive post on trite topics than for someone who does not know about the game make a post and have 15 anonymous people talk down on that person, call them an idiot, and turn away a prospective member of the community.
This is where we differ. I'd rather have a rude community that knows what they are talking about than an ignorant community that stagnates the growth of competitive game.
Anyone who truly wants to learn a game, who has the enthusiasm and the diligence to learn how to play the game more effectively, will deal with online rudeness since they are both used to it and are smart enough to not let it effect them. If every single odd person comes into a community and is taught incorrect information, it doesn't matter how pleasant the forums are, they aren't getting better at the game, which was why they visited the forums to begin with.
There are plenty of gaming communities where the forums are dominated with polite people, and yet they have no idea of how to play the game in an efficient way.
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On July 07 2010 05:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:35 kajeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks. So, here is the big reveal: They Do Not Want People Like You Posting. A couple of posts under your real name on the official Blizzard forums will not hurt your career. I *know* this to be true. But several posts may. Hundreds or thousands will almost certainly have some effect. But you will take your anonymous posting elsewhere. Which is EXACTLY what they want. They do NOT want people like you chattin' it up on their forums: they don't want you to spam, they don't want you to participate in gigantic discussions about how OP paladins are, they don't want you to flame anyone. And so you will limit yourself to 1-5 harmless posts. Which is exactly what they want from you. See? ... No, I don't see - they don't want articulate and intelligent posters?
Now, come on, Jonathan. That is clearly not my point.
This guy will still make articulate and intelligent posts. But he will make very few, carefully chosen articulate and intelligent posts. He will reserve the rest of his posting for TL.
Meanwhile, people in this guy's position are not the majority of people on the Internet. You will still get articulate and intelligent posters, but these will be people who aren't afraid of using their real names. And these people will make fewer, more carefully chosen, more carefully worded posts.
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United States22154 Posts
Or, they could moderate the forum.
Nah, that would be too much work, its much easier to alienate a good percentage of the community they are trying to form and expose all of their posters to harassment
/sarcasm off
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I enjoy my privacy of posting under a nick. I do not want people IRL to search the forums and find out every single thing I have said before.
Lets say one of us one day become popular - getting involved into politics or the entertainment business. This tabloid paper digs up this forum post you made 10 years ago which you are not entirely proud of...
We all post under a nick, or choose it over our IRL names for a good reasons, I dont know why blizzard would want to take privacy away in order to increase the quality of the forum... when I read the forums I expected to meet trolls already....
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On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks.
Two things. First, this is not going to be the only game from 2010 onwards, nor is Battle.net going to be the only website with a forum. So as you have pointed out by posting here, you have a choice.
Second, even if Starcraft 2 was the only way you could interact with people anonymously, I don't acknowledge that anonymous interaction is anything but a strange kind of luxury. People have created this illusion for themselves where the ability to make impulse comments and run away from them afterwards is equivalent to freedom, and I don't really agree.
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On July 07 2010 05:37 Ghad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:18 Pandain wrote:On July 07 2010 05:17 Ghad wrote:
Well, I haven't played a Blizzard game since Warcraft 2, but I definetly used the b.net beta forum, and expected to use the b.net forum to interact with blizzard if need be. Aint gonna happen now though. That's funny considering you're registered on a starcraft fansite. :p Why? I got in on the SC2 beta in April, and immediately looked around for promising community sites as soon as I realized just how great the game was. TL came to the front of Google, and there you are. 
It's just you said you haven't played a blizzard game since warcraft 2, so why would you be on a starcraft fansite.
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On July 07 2010 05:42 TOloseGT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:40 Serpico wrote:On July 07 2010 05:29 Auronz wrote:On July 07 2010 04:32 Offhand wrote:On July 07 2010 03:51 Mulloy wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Michael David Mulloy II Gozoku@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloyHave fun? 27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter. Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call. And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon. Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information? So, what you gonna do now to him? Murder him in cold blood? Take a plane to do that? I bet nobody will. going from that principle, anybody could get annoyed at you in facebook or some other site and then murder you in cold blood because it always says where you live and your name in those social relation sites. Bnet is probably becoming a more honest place, and for the love of god, why the hell would you be ashamed of gaming? People have tracked others down online and murdered/assaulted them before. Your point is moot and its terrifying that announcing private info is so casual and ok with you. It's not people, it's individuals with an illness who tracks people down to murder them. Ordinary gamers are not psychos.
.....the guy that stabbed another person was playing counterstrike. What proof do you have after making such an arbitrary claim?
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On July 07 2010 05:42 chraej. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:38 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 05:36 chraej. wrote:On July 07 2010 05:29 Auronz wrote:On July 07 2010 04:32 Offhand wrote:On July 07 2010 03:51 Mulloy wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Michael David Mulloy II Gozoku@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloyHave fun? 27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter. Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call. And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon. Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information? So, what you gonna do now to him? Murder him in cold blood? Take a plane to do that? I bet nobody will. going from that principle, anybody could get annoyed at you in facebook or some other site and then murder you in cold blood because it always says where you live and your name in those social relation sites. Bnet is probably becoming a more honest place, and for the love of god, why the hell would you be ashamed of gaming? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/05/27/2010-05-27_video_gamer_hunts_down_stabs_man_who_killed_his_online_counterstrike_character.html...oops? Charles Manson was inspired by the Beatles!! Rock music must be stopped because it inspired KILLERS!!! not the point at all. he just said he didnt think it was likely - however it happens. having your REAL info out there is not a good idea
Yes, and the Columbine killers played Doom... Just because "it happens" doesn't mean it will see an uptick in frequency.
And it looks like all you've done is show that it "can happen" even with gamer handles -- i.e., without a real-name system at all! If someone is going to go to all that trouble, do you really think it matters whether you tell them your real name or not?
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On July 07 2010 05:43 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 05:42 ikkyixo wrote:On July 07 2010 05:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 07 2010 05:35 kajeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 05:31 starcat wrote:
To people who do not think it is a big deal just dont get it.
Personally, i have been working at a law firm for a year or so as a lawyer. For those who are not aware, many firms and employers are accountable to the public. Auditors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, law enforcement, etc... are all publically accountable.
Anyone in these fields is already aware of the limits and restrictions about online conduct as anything you say or do will not only impact you as an individual, but the employer as well. Our facebook pages are bare, not all pictures can be posted, you need to be careful when making wall posts, etc. For me, i have no problem with this and i understand it.
Video games for these people are the only way they can interact with others anonymously. Such as I. I enjoy posting on message boards, and also did so on the beta forums. I find it helps me learn and help others, and i like the community aspect of it. And dont get me wrong, i enjoy the occasional flame or joke just like anyone else here.
The problem arises when I cannot even post anonymously anymore. As you can see, having my real name would impact what i can or cannot post since if my name is associated, my firm and profession is as well. If an auditor posts something that isnt the best thing (but very acceptable by our 'e-standards' we will very likely be punished for breach of the rules of professional conduct of the profession, and will likely result in your employer punishing you some way as well, and depending on the severity you may end up having your CA/CPA designation revoked because of it. Especially in the world we live in today where even jokes can get you in a lot of trouble.
Lots of people do not seem to understand that making everything we do relate to our real name, we lose a large part of our enjoyment, and at the end of the day will result in the opposite of what blizzard wants to achieve, thus is a bad idea. I will not be posting on the forums any more, and will post here instead.
Sure if you are a kid in high school, you really wont care about anything and will post wahtever you want, but if you have a job such as i, or any of the above jobs mentioned above, you will agree that real name association is not a good thing. Only the ignorant do not seem to understand this, and say "Oh i dont see the big deal?". Well, son, the big deal is that you are only hindering your own community, and hindering the overall game experience of the consumers.
Thanks. So, here is the big reveal: They Do Not Want People Like You Posting. A couple of posts under your real name on the official Blizzard forums will not hurt your career. I *know* this to be true. But several posts may. Hundreds or thousands will almost certainly have some effect. But you will take your anonymous posting elsewhere. Which is EXACTLY what they want. They do NOT want people like you chattin' it up on their forums: they don't want you to spam, they don't want you to participate in gigantic discussions about how OP paladins are, they don't want you to flame anyone. And so you will limit yourself to 1-5 harmless posts. Which is exactly what they want from you. See? ... No, I don't see - they don't want articulate and intelligent posters? They don't get articulate and intelligent posters with the current system they have where people can attack anyone they want because of the protection of being anonymous. I make intelligent posts, and I will be grateful to post in their official forums when all the anonymous attacking by kids are kept at a bare minimum because they cannot hide behind aliases anymore. Or, they could moderate the forum. Show nested quote +... "connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before." This definitely will be the case, one way or another...... Not sure I'm a huge fan of the most likely ways this connection will manifest.
I'm willing to bet there are probably hundreds of posts made per second on the Bnet WoW forums, while SC2 probably will be more tame because it has a significantly lower base. I don't believe for a second that any number of moderators would be enough to do so, in fact only having a system where your comments would have to be approved before posting would be active enough since people like to be uncivilized when there's no stigma attached to what they say.
And I've had 10 page threads calling me racial slurs and giving me death threats on the WoW forums, which took a good two days to get closed, so yeah, I'm kind of over the whole anonymity thing. You can do it on another forum (... Like 4chan) that supports it. Would you support the level of crap that goes on on the Bnet forums?
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