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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 06 2010 20:02 GMT
#621
On July 07 2010 04:56 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 04:51 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On July 07 2010 04:50 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
You guys are funny if you really think the average employer is going to do searches on the internet for your name...


Actually it happens a lot. But I guess it depends on what you're trying to hide. Not doing anything wrong? Than no worries.
If you're applying for a job at McDonald's or Hardees or 99% of entry-level jobs, they're not going to check online for anything.

You only think "it happens quite a lot" because as soon as it happens to someone, the news is all over it.

Like I said, if you guys are really worried about what's out there, you have two options: 1) GTFO off the internet, or 2: WATCH WHAT YOU SAY!

not every one is 60 or thinks, kinicky is fun.
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
July 06 2010 20:02 GMT
#622
All this would do is increase traffic on SC2 fan sites like TL, GG etc.

I hope you guys are prepared for newbies galore if Blizzard implements this change.
gunsakimbo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States38 Posts
July 06 2010 20:03 GMT
#623
I like the decision. However, this will ultimately lead to more murders.
Go for the Eyes
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 06 2010 20:03 GMT
#624
I for one hope they do this on battle 2.0 too. All people is talking about is to make Esport viable and respected. But this is never going to happen if the players have nicks and smurfs they can hide behind. Only way to take a real step towards making it like others sport is to make it more open so people can't hide behind fake names and nicks.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#625
On July 07 2010 05:01 ikkyixo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 04:54 nineninja9 wrote:
...Honestly, I don't see this happening, what I DO see happening however is a number of polite and well-mannered but ignorant posters debating over trite topics or simply providing bad advice...


I'd rather have a polite and well mannered, constructive post on trite topics than for someone who does not know about the game make a post and have 15 anonymous people talk down on that person, call them an idiot, and turn away a prospective member of the community.

So you moderate the forum... Isn't the WoW forum moderated? I dunno, I haven't read it much but it didn't seem troll-infested.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 20:04:55
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#626
On July 07 2010 04:50 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
You guys are funny if you really think the average employer is going to do searches on the internet for your name...


Dude, if you ever get employed anywhere worth a damn, googling your name is incredibly common. All you're doing is making people think you've never worked anywhere above fast food.

As an interesting note, during the presidential campaigns, Obama's team had some job openings (low-level stuff staffer stuff, too), and on the form, it asked you to disclose all your online aliases and sites you frequent to make sure you aren't a liability.

The internet: serious business.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#627
On July 07 2010 05:02 TOloseGT wrote:
All this would do is increase traffic on SC2 fan sites like TL, GG etc.

I hope you guys are prepared for newbies galore if Blizzard implements this change.

I think we're already all prepared...
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#628
On July 07 2010 04:48 vesicular wrote:
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On July 07 2010 04:42 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
I'm not saying it's "wrong", it's just silly to be paranoid about sharing your first and last name when things like your IP is freely viewable, not to mention there are so many areas of your life where your name is available (phone book, job, friends, family, etc...).


It might be silly, but it's should still be a choice and up to the user. Yes we have the choice of not posting there, but that makes the bnet forums worse, not better.

I think you're wrong. Fewer people who are afraid of even owning up to their real names = much better official forum.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#629
Dont companies have some made up facebook/myspace accounts they try to add you as a friend on? For instance if your profile is private I'd wonder if they'd hire you if they couldnt look at all your pictures/information.
SnakeChomp
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
July 06 2010 20:04 GMT
#630
Problem: people on WoW forums creating level 1 alts and then starting flame wars and generally being ass hats. Has created negative stigma for the forums and makes it difficult to hold reasonable discussions on them.
Solution: make it so that people always post using a consistent identifier tied to an account instead of a character name that can be used for smurfing.
Result: trolling, flaming, and general ass-hattery-ness will be greatly reduced, but not eliminated as there will still be people who make accounts specifically to use for trolling. Quality of posting will likely increase and the stigma associated with blizzard forums will change to something slightly less negative over time.

Seems like a good idea to me. It would be nice if you could still attach a character to your posts so that people can identify you by character name as well if they've seen you in a game but don't have your realid.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
July 06 2010 20:05 GMT
#631
Eh, not a big deal. People seeing your name wont change anything, nor will anything ever happen to you for it.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
MrShank
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada144 Posts
July 06 2010 20:05 GMT
#632
meh, if ur used to FACEBOOK, then theres really nothing new. Just nerds who like hiding behind there super UBER tags will def hate on this.
Relax - its just a game
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 06 2010 20:05 GMT
#633
On July 07 2010 05:01 kajeus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 07 2010 04:58 GMarshal wrote:
someone posted this on the Blizzard forums and I thought it was worth reposing here:

Show nested quote +
Picture this. No really do it.

It's July 30th, and you just finished installing your copy of Starcraft 2, and you're ready to hop online. You enter the multiplayer aspect and search your first 1v1 game type.

You pick Terran, as you are unfamiliar with the other races, and your opponent spawns zerg.

2 minutes go by, and you realize you have no clue what you're doing, and 6 lings come into your base and demolish everything. You lose.

"wow... man I got creamed", you think to yourself.

So you head over to the bnet forums to ask for advice. Having browsed the forums regularly in beta, you know what to expect, trolls, off topic posts, and the occasional Blue responding only to threads praising Bnet 2.0.

But then, you see a topic that intrigues you titled "ZERG IMBALANCED PLEASE REMOVE", so you quickly enter it to become more informed and voice your opinion on how badly they are imbalanced.

After some skimming in the thread, you notice something odd..... The name Tony Mcfinklestein is highlighted with the reply "0-4 0%" Noob l2p.

You think, why is this douche being mean to new players? You then notice under his name it has his battle.net account and it says Ghetto.Overlord.

You suddenly get a surge of hatred coming from inside of you, having remembered that name from the forums during beta, you hated this elitist and his blog with a passion, so much that you copy paste his name into google.

Viola! Facebook pops up, and there are a total of 3 Tony Mcfinklesteins, so you have to decide which one is Ghetto.Overlord.

After 5 minutes you discover that 2 are private and one is not, thus singling out that now you have a 50% chance of finding him after realizing the 3rd tony is a black Portuguese woman.

Now it gets tricky, how are you going to infiltrate his private account?

Suddenly you start refreshing one of the names to view his friends, and you notice "Starcraft 2" as one of his 6 friends. You become ecstatic with joy, an overwhelming feeling that you have found the man you hate, and you are overcome with this gleeful desire to wreak havoc on his personal life, all because his views are different than yours.

You randomly click a few of his friends before realizing one of them is not private, and read up about her and her personal life, as well as any comments Tony left on the wall.

Suddenly you have an opening, and you friend request Tony saying, "HEY WE WENT TO HS TOGETHER REMEMBER ME I WAS THE DUDE WHO SAT BEHIND YOU IN SEX ED".

Out of sheer luck, Tony friended you back, and you now have access to his personal information.

3 Days later you show up to Tony's house in Arizona with a 5 Iron in your hands, as he answers the door you beat him into oblivion until his face can no longer be recognized as Tony Mcfinklestein.

The end.

Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

It all started with knowing his name...

...it ended... in murder...

the joke is based in a sad story
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101031-Counter-Strike-Knife-Fight-Leads-to-Real-Life-Stabbing
Xiphiass
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia144 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#634
On July 07 2010 04:56 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 04:51 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On July 07 2010 04:50 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
You guys are funny if you really think the average employer is going to do searches on the internet for your name...


Actually it happens a lot. But I guess it depends on what you're trying to hide. Not doing anything wrong? Than no worries.
If you're applying for a job at McDonald's or Hardees or 99% of entry-level jobs, they're not going to check online for anything.

You only think "it happens quite a lot" because as soon as it happens to someone, the news is all over it.

Like I said, if you guys are really worried about what's out there, you have two options: 1) GTFO off the internet, or 2: WATCH WHAT YOU SAY!

News are over what? "EXTRA: EMPLOYER BACKGROUND CHECKS ONE OF HIS EMPLOYEES"? That happens in almost every single respected job. Even these entry jobs are on it. Some employers don't want their workers to play games, and will look down on such people. While PROBABLY no one will not check you if you want to flip burgers or chop trees your entire life, they WILL check you if you want to do anything worthwhile.
Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?
pshych0
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
274 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#635
***READ THIS***

The forums erupted in nerd rage, and to prove that it's not such a big deal, one of the blizzard employee's posted in a thread that his real name is Micah Whipple.

So up sprung a "micah whipple" thread, where the usually-mentally challenged wow forum posters were able to find his facebook page, twitter, home address, and telephone number. This information was posted throughout the thread, and was very quickly deleted. Various "micah whipple" threads keep popping up, but are quickly deleted.

from arenajunkies.net
shit happens
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#636
I got the ultimate question here for EVERYONE complaining about this.

How many of you actually use the b.net forums?

I know I tried once and gave up after 2 posts, so count me out.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#637
I think the big issue here is that the forums may have bad spots but it also has good spots, and trying to fix it with a blanket "EVERYONE CAN SCREW EVERYBODY" is a bad idea. This is bigger then just sc2, this throws in diablo3,WoW, and any future games that work under this. Who's going to post advice, feedback, thoughts and ideas when you have to worry about some troll lurker wanting to screw with you because he disagrees.
Thanks blizzard, you've managed to shake the faith of a guy who said "huh, starcraft64 this could be good"
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#638
On July 07 2010 05:04 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 05:01 ikkyixo wrote:
On July 07 2010 04:54 nineninja9 wrote:
...Honestly, I don't see this happening, what I DO see happening however is a number of polite and well-mannered but ignorant posters debating over trite topics or simply providing bad advice...


I'd rather have a polite and well mannered, constructive post on trite topics than for someone who does not know about the game make a post and have 15 anonymous people talk down on that person, call them an idiot, and turn away a prospective member of the community.

So you moderate the forum... Isn't the WoW forum moderated? I dunno, I haven't read it much but it didn't seem troll-infested.

You haven't read much, man. :D

Plus you get into the problem of banning paying subscribers and whatnot. It's a pain in the ass.

But just say that you can only post under your real name, and BOOM! No need to antagonize anybody directly like that. No need for bans!

Isn't that cool, Jonathan Walsh??
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#639
On July 07 2010 04:58 GMarshal wrote:
someone posted this on the Blizzard forums and I thought it was worth reposing here:

Show nested quote +
Picture this. No really do it.

It's July 30th, and you just finished installing your copy of Starcraft 2, and you're ready to hop online. You enter the multiplayer aspect and search your first 1v1 game type.

You pick Terran, as you are unfamiliar with the other races, and your opponent spawns zerg.

2 minutes go by, and you realize you have no clue what you're doing, and 6 lings come into your base and demolish everything. You lose.

"wow... man I got creamed", you think to yourself.

So you head over to the bnet forums to ask for advice. Having browsed the forums regularly in beta, you know what to expect, trolls, off topic posts, and the occasional Blue responding only to threads praising Bnet 2.0.

But then, you see a topic that intrigues you titled "ZERG IMBALANCED PLEASE REMOVE", so you quickly enter it to become more informed and voice your opinion on how badly they are imbalanced.

After some skimming in the thread, you notice something odd..... The name Tony Mcfinklestein is highlighted with the reply "0-4 0%" Noob l2p.

You think, why is this douche being mean to new players? You then notice under his name it has his battle.net account and it says Ghetto.Overlord.

You suddenly get a surge of hatred coming from inside of you, having remembered that name from the forums during beta, you hated this elitist and his blog with a passion, so much that you copy paste his name into google.

Viola! Facebook pops up, and there are a total of 3 Tony Mcfinklesteins, so you have to decide which one is Ghetto.Overlord.

After 5 minutes you discover that 2 are private and one is not, thus singling out that now you have a 50% chance of finding him after realizing the 3rd tony is a black Portuguese woman.

Now it gets tricky, how are you going to infiltrate his private account?

Suddenly you start refreshing one of the names to view his friends, and you notice "Starcraft 2" as one of his 6 friends. You become ecstatic with joy, an overwhelming feeling that you have found the man you hate, and you are overcome with this gleeful desire to wreak havoc on his personal life, all because his views are different than yours.

You randomly click a few of his friends before realizing one of them is not private, and read up about her and her personal life, as well as any comments Tony left on the wall.

Suddenly you have an opening, and you friend request Tony saying, "HEY WE WENT TO HS TOGETHER REMEMBER ME I WAS THE DUDE WHO SAT BEHIND YOU IN SEX ED".

Out of sheer luck, Tony friended you back, and you now have access to his personal information.

3 Days later you show up to Tony's house in Arizona with a 5 Iron in your hands, as he answers the door you beat him into oblivion until his face can no longer be recognized as Tony Mcfinklestein.

The end.


You forgot the part where he is beamed up to the mothership and escapes to his home planet.
High five :---)
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#640
Another thing. People are complaining that activity will be less. Why is that bad. TL have always have a great reputation because of less post but with higher quality. If battle.net forums can obtain anything close to (especially older) TL.net, it will be a huge step towards the better.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
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