EPTYou can kill ghost with feedback to preven emp, you can focus infestor to not to fungal/parasite but you cant do anything to prevent FF abuse.
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CryGirl1921
Poland78 Posts
You can kill ghost with feedback to preven emp, you can focus infestor to not to fungal/parasite but you cant do anything to prevent FF abuse. | ||
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Smoyf
United States44 Posts
Oh and to the above poster, it's hard to kill a cloaked ghost with feedback. If you're teching to HT's then depending on the situation you might have skipped robo tech, meaning no obs. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On April 13 2010 01:05 CryGirl1921 wrote: Protoss players cry about sentry nerf but FF isnt counterable, too long casting range and duration makes enemy ground army useless (even if toss isnt much skilled). You can kill ghost with feedback to preven emp, you can focus infestor to not to fungal/parasite but you cant do anything to prevent FF abuse. All I can do is laugh at this. How come you can focus Infestors but not sentries? Fungal and FF have the same range. Before someone says "because you are walled off" replace the underlined word with rooted and repeat step one. | ||
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United States5770 Posts
On April 13 2010 00:22 JTPROG wrote: rofl weakest race, sounds like you're biased and have nothing constructive to share =/ edit: and some micro makes 80HP go a long way. remember you can keep them behind the rest of your army as well. Nothing constructive to share? You created a moronic thread with a moronic purpose and you just made random suggestions with no backing: "Make force field have 50% less diameter so it would take 2 to block a ramp" You clearly know absolutely nothing at all about protoss balance if you think this change wouldn't drop protoss winrate at least 5% across the board | ||
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United States5770 Posts
On April 13 2010 01:05 CryGirl1921 wrote: Protoss players cry about sentry nerf but FF isnt counterable, too long casting range and duration makes enemy ground army useless (even if toss isnt much skilled). You can kill ghost with feedback to preven emp, you can focus infestor to not to fungal/parasite but you cant do anything to prevent FF abuse. You can emp them, obviously. EMPing a group of sentries with one aoe emp from a cloaked ghost is infinitely easier than trying to feedback 6 cloaked ghosts admist a terran army when they're sniping your observers and you don't have a magical scan that will detect the ghosts other than your expensive and weak observers. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Everyone should play random for awhile before they think they have an off-race figured out. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On April 13 2010 01:24 keV. wrote: These are just nerf proposals, there is nothing about balance at all here. You think FF and GS is too strong. You forgot half of the "why" and just posted the "how." EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY RANDOM FOR AWHILE BEFORE THEY THINK THEY HAVE AN OFF-RACE FIGURED OUT Bolded, italic, underlined, changed to caps and quoted for the sheer amount of truth. | ||
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NightOne
Canada215 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
you cannot nerf FF. it is absolutely critical for toss to survive. Without it, speedlings would completely dominate early game PvZ as auto-surround and creep movespeed bonus would let them rape so incredibly easy. marauders and marines would have unlimited kiting ability and because of slow protoss can do absolutely NOTHING about it. FF is the practically the only thing keeping protoss alive to midgame. guardian shield is incredibly crucial. especially when zergs go mass mutas, which seems to be all they ever do now. especially since maps like DO and scrap station really favor heavy muta harass with short air rush, long ground rush, and indefensible naturals. without GS muta bounce rapes protoss so hard it's not even funny. play protoss before you throw the nerf stick at it. | ||
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B_w_S
United States28 Posts
On April 12 2010 23:40 JTPROG wrote: -Proposed Changes to Guardian Shield- Quite simply, the most reasonable change to this ability is to make it reduce 1 armor instead of 2. This still reduces the damage of marines by 16% and the damage of marauders by 10% against non-armored and 5% against armored targets. I find this to be a more fair amount which should lead to more diversity in terran's early game options. Lol, why in the world would this lead lead to more diverse Terran strats? All Terran ever does is mass Marines and Marauders. Guardian Shield slightly discourages this strategy. So, what is Terran going to do if it gets nerfed? Mass even more Marines and Marauders! Sentries are easy to deal with as long as your army doesn't equal 100% M&M. (Not necessarily too easy, but you get the point, right?) | ||
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United States5770 Posts
On April 13 2010 01:38 Ryuu314 wrote: yea, honestly it was threads and complaints like these that got storm nerfed. now no one ever uses storm due to the sheer suckage of it. keep making these threads and sentry will get nerfed. then watch protoss winrate just drop. hell, one more big nerf to protoss and i may just change race. you cannot nerf FF. it is absolutely critical for toss to survive. Without it, speedlings would completely dominate early game PvZ as auto-surround and creep movespeed bonus would let them rape so incredibly easy. marauders and marines would have unlimited kiting ability and because of slow protoss can do absolutely NOTHING about it. FF is the practically the only thing keeping protoss alive to midgame. guardian shield is incredibly crucial. especially when zergs go mass mutas, which seems to be all they ever do now. especially since maps like DO and scrap station really favor heavy muta harass with short air rush, long ground rush, and indefensible naturals. without GS muta bounce rapes protoss so hard it's not even funny. play protoss before you throw the nerf stick at it. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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