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United States22883 Posts
On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. This isn't the same thing as killing an al-Qaeda leader. They're two totally different groups from different ethnicities with different goals and interests and structures. You're right, it won't stop terrorism, but the Taliban isn't really a terrorist organization. It's a quasi political movement/party that happens to be Islamist and authoritarian, but it does have a real command structure; their goal isn't to attack the US, it's to rule Afghanistan, something that's not possible without a real structure. The guy's been in power for 8 or so years now, getting him is a pretty significant.
Sigh, I get a feeling that most people don't know the difference. You do at least know they're not Arab, right?
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On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism.
You said it
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On February 16 2010 13:29 aRod wrote:
The government actually found someone important they were looking for?
Yeah well we find important people quite a bit but they usually aren't capture and just assassinated only prob is that assassinations in the taliban just cause a temp disruption from time to time instead of huge ripple effects capture could be very nice.
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On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism.
nah bro, it's not who cares. Capturing one of the highest commanders in the ladder is nothing to brush aside lightly. Regardless of how easily his position is placed, it still marks some kind of improvement and advancement of the war.
and i completely agree, terrorism will never cease to exist, however, we can't just ignore it because of that. Not saying i completely agree with the war over there, but it's better than doing nothing and letting the terrorists have their way.
Imagine what could've happened and how much stronger and powerful the taliban or other terrorists could've gotten over the last decade hadn't we gone in
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ppl still actually believe the taliban is responsible for 911?
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On February 16 2010 14:19 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. You said it
i would think after a while they would stop getting new leaders if they keep getting captured/killed..
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On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism.
this, america after twenty-five+ years, still havent learned from their mistakes of the vietnam war.
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On February 16 2010 14:46 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:19 Darpinion wrote:On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. You said it i would think after a while they would stop getting new leaders if they keep getting captured/killed..
Nah. It's not a matter of the lives lost. It's more a battle of ideals, they will keep fighting and terrorizing until they're able to regulate their power and ideas to their content, which is NEVER going to happen. Which is why they will never stop what they're doing nor just vanish away.
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On February 16 2010 14:48 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. this, america after twenty-five+ years, still havent learned from their mistakes of the vietnam war.
It's different though. You can't make comparisons between the two wars so directly like that. It's not like the Vietnamese that we were fighting back then would've plotted and carried out suicide bombings in american turf.
When we finally left vietnam, that was pretty much the end of the story (if i'm not mistaken). Or atleast I know that they didn't try to attack america again. the same doesn't go when we're fighting against terrorists
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On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism.
I really want someone to explain this whole military operations won't stop terrorism thing. Is it physically impossible? Are terrorists are set to spawn every year on Jan 1st? It sounds a lot like the notion that it's impossible to win a game of Starcraft by using your army because your opponent will just make new units.
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United States12607 Posts
On February 16 2010 14:48 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. this, america after twenty-five+ years, still havent learned from their mistakes of the vietnam war.
what a defeatist attitude… should the US really give up on fighting oppressive regimes / capturing their leaders just because there "will always be more baddies"? Tomorrow's headlines: US disbands military, pulls troops from Afghanistan; military leaders explain "we can't stop terrorism, they will just promote new guys"
And GTR what does this have to do with Vietnam? I know "blah blah blah Vietnam War blah blah blah" is a nifty way to disparage the US, but you're going to have to explain yourself a bit more than that.
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On February 16 2010 14:54 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:48 GTR wrote:On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. this, america after twenty-five+ years, still havent learned from their mistakes of the vietnam war. what a defeatist attitude… should the US really give up on fighting oppressive regimes / capturing their leaders just because there "will always be more baddies"? And GTR what does this have to do with Vietnam? I know "blah blah blah Vietnam War blah blah blah" is a nifty way to disparage the US, but you're going to have to explain yourself a bit more than that.
Yeah I really don't think the Vietnam analogy is comparable. There are SO many significant factors that are not the same
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Give him to the CIA for a few weeks. He'll be talking.
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On February 16 2010 14:54 Failsafe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 14:10 Slaughter wrote:
Who cares... They will just promote some new guys and gain more followers for their fallen leader. Military operations won't stop terrorism. I really want someone to explain this whole military operations won't stop terrorism thing. Is it physically impossible? Are terrorists are set to spawn every year on Jan 1st? It sounds a lot like the notion that it's impossible to win a game of Starcraft by using your army because your opponent will just make new units.
The idea behind it is that terrorism spawns from hatred of (in this case) the US and that by invading a country you're nourishing that hatred.
I'm not saying that's a completely correct argument btw, but it definitely has its merits.
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Eh i wanted to rant on how the major diff is the people is a minority not a majority population that we are fighting.
But then i thought to myself
Does this have to be said.
Does this have to be said now.
Does this have to be said now by me.
USA USA USA USA USA USA
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you know.... the us fucking with foreign countries has been the cause of some of the bloodiest wars of the modern day. Look at El salvador, the thousands killed in their war by "death squads" trained at the school of the americas, how they left the mutilated bodies of the poor in the streets.
thats what it looks like when the US polices the world. BLOOD POOLING IN A STREET.
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Zurich15366 Posts
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