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One of the big problems that a lot of progamers face is a lack of educational opportunity. These are teenagers who have spent their lives, basically, learning a computer game rather than going to school. I think that one of the ways the foreign community can repay these progamers for their years of making us laugh, cry, and FFFFFUUUU with rage is to help them attend college.
I don't mean a Korean school here. I think that they're probably too far removed from the normal Korean highschooler that they would probably not like being in a normal Korean college. I think that we should help them come to the US or Europe for college.
One test case we can do right now is to take Flash. I think that Flash has a high chance of dropping SC after taking both leagues or being a bonjwa. And I'm sure his parents have thought about his future outside of progaming too.
TL, is this a good idea? Do you think this is even possible? And if it is, how can we go about doing this?
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This isn't about helping him go to college, this is about helping him get admitted into a good college--this would also serve to calm a lot of rattled nerves, I feel, within Korean progamers and give the foreign starcraft community a degree of networking and camaderie with the Korean proscene.
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Why would someone give up making hundreds of thousands of dollars to study?
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To participate in the CSL!
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yah imagine, instead of a team with nony, a team with Flash. it would be ridiculous, flash playing C+ players, hahahahaha
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I'm sure flash has plenty of money to go to whatever college he wants to (or whatever college is suitable for him). You do know they make 6 figures right?
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i think flash should come to uchicago
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lol flash isn't going to drop SC after just winning double titles or becoming bonjwa
and its very possible for flash to lose a game in CSL
sure he's statistically the best player ever, but look what happened to nony
nony lost to a player with a good strategy, decent management, and whatnot
and any pro can lose to some cheese~
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He will not drop from SC after reaching his peak.
Unless the SC1 scene runs out and Flash is no good at SC2 (which I highly doubt) I believe he will be in the progaming scene for a while to come.
Flash stated in interviews he wanted to be a progamer for a long time, like boxer... and all of the bonjwas continued progaming even after their fall from bonjwa-ness. ('cept oov, what with marrying and coaching and all that).
Another way to look at it is money.
SC-> money. money money money.
They may be making money right now that could last them for the rest of their lives.
But I'm totally for education for them as well, as its unrealistic that they could stay gaming for the rest of their lives. The question is, would Flash or any progamer want to return to regular life after progaming? It may be stressful and grind-hard, but it is a lifestyle, and I'm sure some gamers prefer it over doing something they may only be mildly interested in.
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On January 08 2010 13:25 Methos wrote:
I'm sure flash has plenty of money to go to whatever college he wants to (or whatever college is suitable for him). You do know they make 6 figures right?
Right but this isn't about Flash being able to afford going to college, this is about helping him get admitted
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us help flash go to college. how presumptuous can you get.
this is ridiculous
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On January 08 2010 13:26 t_co wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 13:25 Methos wrote:
I'm sure flash has plenty of money to go to whatever college he wants to (or whatever college is suitable for him). You do know they make 6 figures right? Right but this isn't about Flash being able to afford going to college, this is about helping him get admitted
why would you want to go to college when you have a steady job? an athlete wouldn't quit at their peak to go study either
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On January 08 2010 13:25 Nal_rAwr wrote:
lol flash isn't going to drop SC after just winning double titles or becoming bonjwa
and its very possible for flash to lose a game in CSL
sure he's statistically the best player ever, but look what happened to nony
and any pro can lose to some cheese~
psh, nony's not totally in shape. and this is flash, his micro is 10x better than nony's.
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You want to help get Flash, a guy who makes a 6 digit salary, get into college (and assume his korean parents have absolutely no idea how to get him a college education), while ret doesn't even have a part-time manager or translator?
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This is possibly the dumbest thread I've ever read XD
I don't think he'll fit in at a Korean school because he plays lots of Starcraft, he'll fit in way better somewhere he doesn't even speak the fucking language right?
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This is absurd anyway, but Flash is making a ton of money. He doesn't need help.
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Why assume he'd want to go to college, what prevents him to follow any educational patch after his retirement or military service?
He's a successful progamer, one of the few making the big money. I doubt there is anything better he could do at those stages of his live.
Or he could go to college and get a some 8-5 job and earn the same amount over the next 10 years that he makes in a year now.
Flash is not an endangered animal that needs help, let's help zergbong!
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Dude...just...what? I can't tell if I'm being trolled or not.
Flash will probably have the equivalent of over $1 million US dollars banked by the time he retires. He can do whatever the fuck he wants, go wherever the fuck he wants. He's a genius and I'm sure he could learn English on a fluent-speaking level extremely quickly if he put his mind to it, too.
Beyond that, he's got a bright future as a progaming coach when he decides to retire.
College is a good idea for most people, but Flash is making more than all but the very top-tier of normal society's workers make right now, and he's only 17 years old. I'm sure he would have no problem attending a college in the U.S. or Europe if he wanted to.
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Ehhh, Flash is still way too young to be considering something like this.
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Has he even shown any interest in going to college, like an interview or anything? It's definately not for everyone.
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Taiwan619 Posts
why the us or europe? I'd think Flash would have difficulty adjusting. And yes, this thread is rather absurd.
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On January 08 2010 13:41 Ludrik wrote:
Has he even shown any interest in going to college, like an interview or anything? It's definately not for everyone.
Didn't he once in an interview say that he will try hard to maintain good grades at school?
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Why help those who are already much better off than 99.9% of people in the world?
Flash has the dedication to achieve anything he wants by himself.
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Why would we help flaSh; he's making money. He's one of the lucky few that this lifestyle actually works for. If anything we should help someone who never quite made it like chalrenge
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...what do you want us to do exactly?
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After reading about Flash's salary, I have no doubt that he can afford Harvard - now he just needs to try to get in.
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On January 08 2010 13:42 IcMp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 13:41 Ludrik wrote:
Has he even shown any interest in going to college, like an interview or anything? It's definately not for everyone. Didn't he once in an interview say that he will try hard to maintain good grades at school?
im sure that was high school
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Canada8033 Posts
I don't understand. Why would US colleges/universities listen to what a bunch of people of random people on the Internet say?
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uh why the fuck did you make this thread. what the fuck are you gonna do to help him lol send him a letter and be like "hey flash bro, sup it's t_co from teamliquid, you should totally go to college here in the states you got my back in the admission process"
he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars and will probably get a job coaching an sc team/commentating when he retires with over 1-2 million us dollars
i think he'll be fine without college lol
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On January 08 2010 14:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
uh why the fuck did you make this thread. what the fuck are you gonna do to help him lol send him a letter and be like "hey flash bro, sup it's t_co from teamliquid, you should totally go to college here in the states you got my back in the admission process"
he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars and will probably get a job coaching an sc team/commentating when he retires with over 1-2 million us dollars
i think he'll be fine without college lol
None of that compares to the prestige of having the support of t_co. Not even close.
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harvard admissions dude: hm i wonder who we should invite to our prestigious university, i wonder what t_co thinks
t_co: flash
harvard admissions dude: ok let me call flash. hey flash do u wanna stop making 400 thousand dollars a year and come to our university to study something right now
flash: yeah
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"Sup Harvard. It's the internet. We think it would be cool for you to let in this Korean kid whose really good at playing video games. Kthxbye."
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if I remember, progamers would take online college classes to delay military service or something.
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That would be great. Maybe he could get a Korean studies major. And work in a fast food joint once he graduates. TL could hook him up, right, right?
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unless your dad is on the admission committee, i don't think there's much you can do to "help" him...
I'm pretty sure he's famous enough to get into some universities in Korea... famous athletes can usually get admitted fairly easily
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Why does Flash even need college? I realize it's been said like 20 times but the fact is Flash just makes way too much money to want to go anywhere, and besides, college isn't really a necessity of life.
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uhh... Horrible idea... On top of leaving their own country and comfort area they would need to learn English or how else would they keep up in class? I moved to the US when i was9 not speaking a word of english and it was hard to keep up in class for a month until I finally learned the language I can't imagine college like that..
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