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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
August 05 2009 19:53 GMT
#1541
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


Every 4th post being garbage is actually a lot. If you had 1.4k posts, that means that you have succesfully contributed 350 garbage posts throughout the forum.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 05 2009 19:54 GMT
#1542
On August 06 2009 02:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 14:43 On_Slaught wrote:
The blind fanboyism and arbitrary standards in this thread (in particular from dazed_spy) must be some sad attempt to justify himself as better than people newer to the scene (not that i'm one).

You don't set the standard for what a bonjwa is, nor do I; the community does. I have absolutely no doubt that if JD wins both starleagues, the COMMUNITY will embrace him as the absolute best player by modern standards (which are going to involve closer games and less dominance) and your pathetic attempts to cling to the past will be laughed at and ignored.
My standards are not any less arbitrary than the entire community of team liquid outside of the jaedong fan boys. Thats why hes universally not considered a bonjwa. Thats why bonjwa is universally agreed to be exactly how I described it to be. Thats why Bisu is not a bonjwa. Thats why Flash is not a bonjwa. I'm not trying to justify myself as better than the newer people in the scene, because that does not require justification. It's an axiom, boy.

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 00:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:48 latent wrote:
I wish people would stop saying Bisu vs. Iris Game 5 was the "best game" in a long time, or "ever", or whatever else. That had to be the most depressing, arrogant, and idiotic mistake of a game I have ever seen. Bisu absolutely threw away the game after his first brilliant hallucination attack. He just let Iris steamroll his economy at 7 and 8 for no reason other than he figured he already had the game in hand and didn't want to waste time defending and expanding.

I understand 5 games will take a toll on one's discipline and self-control, but holy cow that kind of arrogance is just disgusting.

I'm sure Bisu had been practicing hours and hours every day since his last match. It's really sad that he just threw it away with such stupid decision making.

every game has to have a loser thus every game there is a mistake somewhere

it was a great game because of the comeback, and obviously in a comeback someone has to make a mistake for the other person to catch up

you don't hear people saying boxer vs joyo sucked because "joyo totally had him, he totally threw away the lead!"

come the fuck on
Well actually, I've been saying that for years now. Joyo sat there and let like 6 or 7 carriers die with absolutely no micro. It's like he just sat there in a daydream half way through the game.
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 17:26 Jenia6109 wrote:
Little summary:

Game1: Bisu doesn't correctly respond to 2fact push moving his goons back allowing Iris to contain himself and win easily
Bisu mistakes, Iris plays standart
Bisu: 2/5
Iris: 3/5

Game2: Iris makes mistake by not building any anti-DT units
Iris mistakes, Bisu plays standart
Bisu: 3/5
Iris: 2/5
I didn't even bother reading your other game summaries because I found these two particularly funny. Going two fact is not standard [I am under the assumption standart is standard] in the pro circuit anymore. So thats number 1. Number 2, Iris was doing a joyo rush, his anti dt units were meant to be vultures with mines. The timing doesn't work out to through down an eng bay or an academy even if you suspect dt's. I have no idea why he didnt place down mines, I can only presume the upgrade wasn't finished. But no, a proxy dt is not "standart", not to a two fact or any other play. Hell Bisu didn't even know it was a two fact, he didn't get a scout in. It could of been anything.

So a big ol "NO" to your summaries.


Lol. You correct his english spelling and then you make the obvious mistake of writing: "It could of been anything." What a major self fuck. I just could not let it go.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-05 19:58:30
August 05 2009 19:56 GMT
#1543
On August 06 2009 04:53 WindCalibur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


Every 4th post being garbage is actually a lot. If you had 1.4k posts, that means that you have succesfully contributed 350 garbage posts throughout the forum.
I'm sorry, I thought everyone was aware that I was being sarcastic? It's not as if I keep tabs on what statements are disingenuous or meant to make me lawl at the expense of someone else.
On August 06 2009 04:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 02:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:43 On_Slaught wrote:
The blind fanboyism and arbitrary standards in this thread (in particular from dazed_spy) must be some sad attempt to justify himself as better than people newer to the scene (not that i'm one).

You don't set the standard for what a bonjwa is, nor do I; the community does. I have absolutely no doubt that if JD wins both starleagues, the COMMUNITY will embrace him as the absolute best player by modern standards (which are going to involve closer games and less dominance) and your pathetic attempts to cling to the past will be laughed at and ignored.
My standards are not any less arbitrary than the entire community of team liquid outside of the jaedong fan boys. Thats why hes universally not considered a bonjwa. Thats why bonjwa is universally agreed to be exactly how I described it to be. Thats why Bisu is not a bonjwa. Thats why Flash is not a bonjwa. I'm not trying to justify myself as better than the newer people in the scene, because that does not require justification. It's an axiom, boy.

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?
On August 06 2009 00:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:48 latent wrote:
I wish people would stop saying Bisu vs. Iris Game 5 was the "best game" in a long time, or "ever", or whatever else. That had to be the most depressing, arrogant, and idiotic mistake of a game I have ever seen. Bisu absolutely threw away the game after his first brilliant hallucination attack. He just let Iris steamroll his economy at 7 and 8 for no reason other than he figured he already had the game in hand and didn't want to waste time defending and expanding.

I understand 5 games will take a toll on one's discipline and self-control, but holy cow that kind of arrogance is just disgusting.

I'm sure Bisu had been practicing hours and hours every day since his last match. It's really sad that he just threw it away with such stupid decision making.

every game has to have a loser thus every game there is a mistake somewhere

it was a great game because of the comeback, and obviously in a comeback someone has to make a mistake for the other person to catch up

you don't hear people saying boxer vs joyo sucked because "joyo totally had him, he totally threw away the lead!"

come the fuck on
Well actually, I've been saying that for years now. Joyo sat there and let like 6 or 7 carriers die with absolutely no micro. It's like he just sat there in a daydream half way through the game.
On August 05 2009 17:26 Jenia6109 wrote:
Little summary:

Game1: Bisu doesn't correctly respond to 2fact push moving his goons back allowing Iris to contain himself and win easily
Bisu mistakes, Iris plays standart
Bisu: 2/5
Iris: 3/5

Game2: Iris makes mistake by not building any anti-DT units
Iris mistakes, Bisu plays standart
Bisu: 3/5
Iris: 2/5
I didn't even bother reading your other game summaries because I found these two particularly funny. Going two fact is not standard [I am under the assumption standart is standard] in the pro circuit anymore. So thats number 1. Number 2, Iris was doing a joyo rush, his anti dt units were meant to be vultures with mines. The timing doesn't work out to through down an eng bay or an academy even if you suspect dt's. I have no idea why he didnt place down mines, I can only presume the upgrade wasn't finished. But no, a proxy dt is not "standart", not to a two fact or any other play. Hell Bisu didn't even know it was a two fact, he didn't get a scout in. It could of been anything.

So a big ol "NO" to your summaries.


Lol. You correct his english spelling and then you make the obvious mistake of writing: "It could of been anything." What a major self fuck. I just could not let it go.
What? Iris could of been doing anything inside his base, thats what I meant. I don't see how thats grammatically incorrect, or anything along those lines. Maybe in the strictest and most technical sense of english- but heres a secret I think non native english speakers [and anal retentive jackasses] should learn: Grammar is irrelevant in English. So long as your ideas are presentable and coherent, it works. The same goes for words, they don't have to be "real" so long as they are coherent. And I did not correct his spelling, I made fun of his continuous mistake. Difference.

Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 05 2009 20:01 GMT
#1544
On August 04 2009 20:35 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:31 nujabes wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:29 tobi9999 wrote:
Knew it, bisu is too bad PvT to take games even when he has like 4 mining bases vs 2 mining bases


are u dumb? bisu showed in the past that his PvT can be top-tier
he's just played really sloppy overall in this series

But, his PvT really really isn't that great against people like Iris.



You are aware of the fact that he almost killed Iris several times in the fifth game right? Comments like yours makes me think that you have no knowledge of the mechanics involved in TvP and how much concentration and multi-tasking that is involved in fighting off that early proxy robo and goons by Bisu.

I saw the game timer when watching the early game on youtube and thought "ok Iris is dead, I guess they will show some ceremony or whatever the rest of the time"; 20 minutes or whatever.
However he clawed his way back into the game with sick harassment and defending against Bisus army so many times. I was SURE Bisu was gonna win it, even though the game was prolonged.

And to everyone saying Bisu played like shit, you deserve your D- on ICCUP because there is no way in hell, anyone with some knowledge about Starcraft would say that he sucked in these games.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
August 05 2009 20:11 GMT
#1545
if you were completely SURE that bisu was gonna win it, and he didn't.. what does that make you LOL

i thought for sure bisu was gonna win as well. I still think bisu did not play that well. He did not execute many of the subsequent elevator attacks very well at all.. leaving the wraith alive to kill his shuttle multiple times. Despite this, bisu got a huge lead and had 3 bases to iris' two bases (which is very advantageous considering iris' super low tank count and 0 refineries at this point.) I think bisu got impatient and went for the kill way too much. He should have taken the whole map, and tried to deny Iris' expansions rather than just run his over and over up iris completely.

That being sad, iris really turned it on. His dropships were fucking heros and bisu could seriously not kill them. It was so frustrating to watch bisu plow 10 zealots through a minefield to get the same fucking dropship iris had been using the whole time, only to have iris scoup that shit back up and run away. Iris also had really great defense. However I still think if Bisu had not been so aggressive Iris could not have won. really great game though.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 05 2009 20:18 GMT
#1546
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


You don't believe in justice. You just think you know everything. You're immature and can't control yourself or what you say. You put on this act of being such a huge badass but mentally you're so pathetically weak that you think you have to insult people instead of refuting their claims. "Childish backlash" indeed.

No one likes you here because you don't know how to communicate with other human beings.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
August 05 2009 20:25 GMT
#1547
On August 06 2009 04:56 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:53 WindCalibur wrote:
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


Every 4th post being garbage is actually a lot. If you had 1.4k posts, that means that you have succesfully contributed 350 garbage posts throughout the forum.
I'm sorry, I thought everyone was aware that I was being sarcastic? It's not as if I keep tabs on what statements are disingenuous or meant to make me lawl at the expense of someone else.
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
On August 06 2009 02:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:43 On_Slaught wrote:
The blind fanboyism and arbitrary standards in this thread (in particular from dazed_spy) must be some sad attempt to justify himself as better than people newer to the scene (not that i'm one).

You don't set the standard for what a bonjwa is, nor do I; the community does. I have absolutely no doubt that if JD wins both starleagues, the COMMUNITY will embrace him as the absolute best player by modern standards (which are going to involve closer games and less dominance) and your pathetic attempts to cling to the past will be laughed at and ignored.
My standards are not any less arbitrary than the entire community of team liquid outside of the jaedong fan boys. Thats why hes universally not considered a bonjwa. Thats why bonjwa is universally agreed to be exactly how I described it to be. Thats why Bisu is not a bonjwa. Thats why Flash is not a bonjwa. I'm not trying to justify myself as better than the newer people in the scene, because that does not require justification. It's an axiom, boy.

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?
On August 06 2009 00:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:48 latent wrote:
I wish people would stop saying Bisu vs. Iris Game 5 was the "best game" in a long time, or "ever", or whatever else. That had to be the most depressing, arrogant, and idiotic mistake of a game I have ever seen. Bisu absolutely threw away the game after his first brilliant hallucination attack. He just let Iris steamroll his economy at 7 and 8 for no reason other than he figured he already had the game in hand and didn't want to waste time defending and expanding.

I understand 5 games will take a toll on one's discipline and self-control, but holy cow that kind of arrogance is just disgusting.

I'm sure Bisu had been practicing hours and hours every day since his last match. It's really sad that he just threw it away with such stupid decision making.

every game has to have a loser thus every game there is a mistake somewhere

it was a great game because of the comeback, and obviously in a comeback someone has to make a mistake for the other person to catch up

you don't hear people saying boxer vs joyo sucked because "joyo totally had him, he totally threw away the lead!"

come the fuck on
Well actually, I've been saying that for years now. Joyo sat there and let like 6 or 7 carriers die with absolutely no micro. It's like he just sat there in a daydream half way through the game.
On August 05 2009 17:26 Jenia6109 wrote:
Little summary:

Game1: Bisu doesn't correctly respond to 2fact push moving his goons back allowing Iris to contain himself and win easily
Bisu mistakes, Iris plays standart
Bisu: 2/5
Iris: 3/5

Game2: Iris makes mistake by not building any anti-DT units
Iris mistakes, Bisu plays standart
Bisu: 3/5
Iris: 2/5
I didn't even bother reading your other game summaries because I found these two particularly funny. Going two fact is not standard [I am under the assumption standart is standard] in the pro circuit anymore. So thats number 1. Number 2, Iris was doing a joyo rush, his anti dt units were meant to be vultures with mines. The timing doesn't work out to through down an eng bay or an academy even if you suspect dt's. I have no idea why he didnt place down mines, I can only presume the upgrade wasn't finished. But no, a proxy dt is not "standart", not to a two fact or any other play. Hell Bisu didn't even know it was a two fact, he didn't get a scout in. It could of been anything.

So a big ol "NO" to your summaries.


Lol. You correct his english spelling and then you make the obvious mistake of writing: "It could of been anything." What a major self fuck. I just could not let it go.
What? Iris could of been doing anything inside his base, thats what I meant. I don't see how thats grammatically incorrect, or anything along those lines. Maybe in the strictest and most technical sense of english- but heres a secret I think non native english speakers [and anal retentive jackasses] should learn: Grammar is irrelevant in English. So long as your ideas are presentable and coherent, it works. The same goes for words, they don't have to be "real" so long as they are coherent. And I did not correct his spelling, I made fun of his continuous mistake. Difference.



"It could have been anything."

If you are going to get anal retentive about someone spelling 'standard' wrong, other people have just as much right (or more) to get anal retentive about you making an obvious grammar mistake, especially when you can't figure it out after it's been pointed out to you.

PS Grammar is not irrelevant in English.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
August 05 2009 20:34 GMT
#1548
dazed_spy comes off as someone i'd really love to listen to!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 05 2009 20:37 GMT
#1549
On August 05 2009 21:02 DN2perfectionGM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 20:30 7mk wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:48 latent wrote:
I wish people would stop saying Bisu vs. Iris Game 5 was the "best game" in a long time, or "ever", or whatever else. That had to be the most depressing, arrogant, and idiotic mistake of a game I have ever seen. Bisu absolutely threw away the game after his first brilliant hallucination attack. He just let Iris steamroll his economy at 7 and 8 for no reason other than he figured he already had the game in hand and didn't want to waste time defending and expanding.

I understand 5 games will take a toll on one's discipline and self-control, but holy cow that kind of arrogance is just disgusting.

I'm sure Bisu had been practicing hours and hours every day since his last match. It's really sad that he just threw it away with such stupid decision making.


That's funny I think it was the exact opposite of arrogance.
He was in despair and felt like he had to win the game now with this aggression and that if he just runs back he's gonna lose the game.
Bisu's never been incredibly confident about his PvT.


your right that when iris dropped on bisu, it may have been too late for bisu.

but bisu's decision to go all-in wasn't what made me think of him as cocky. that made me think that he was stupid though for his lack of defense...

it was before the drop, when i saw that bisu's army may have had more high templars and archons than zealots, and barely any dragoons. i think they showed bisu having like 8 high templars moving around, with announcers talking about another hallucination as a sort of ceremony attack. that decision to make so many high templars and later actually using hallucination to attack was what made me think that bisu was arrogant.

other than that, i wish bisu would have let iris attack, instead of keep running into his defense with buildings in place and tanks already sieged.


Trust me, no korean pro gamer will ever ever ever do an ingame ceremony in the deciding 5th game of an MSL quarterfinals when the game is as close as this.
ever.
beep boop
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-05 21:04:02
August 05 2009 20:58 GMT
#1550
On August 06 2009 05:18 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


You don't believe in justice. You just think you know everything. You're immature and can't control yourself or what you say. You put on this act of being such a huge badass but mentally you're so pathetically weak that you think you have to insult people instead of refuting their claims. "Childish backlash" indeed.

No one likes you here because you don't know how to communicate with other human beings.
I'm just going to assume I banned you in a game/owned you in a game/previously insulted you to explain your vendetta. Poor kid, move on.
On August 06 2009 04:53 WindCalibur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 04:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 06 2009 04:19 EvoChamber wrote:
Dazed_Spy:

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?


You're a troll and you wonder why you're getting flamed? You've been banned 7 times because every fourth word you post is garbage.
No, every fouth post I make is garbage. At times I make legitimate arguments and statements. Listen, I like to believe in a little thing called justice. Flame me when theres a purpose, not as some childish backlash to me raping your pathetic arguments.


Every 4th post being garbage is actually a lot. If you had 1.4k posts, that means that you have succesfully contributed 350 garbage posts throughout the forum.
I'm sorry, I thought everyone was aware that I was being sarcastic? It's not as if I keep tabs on what statements are disingenuous or meant to make me lawl at the expense of someone else.
On August 06 2009 04:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 02:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:43 On_Slaught wrote:
The blind fanboyism and arbitrary standards in this thread (in particular from dazed_spy) must be some sad attempt to justify himself as better than people newer to the scene (not that i'm one).

You don't set the standard for what a bonjwa is, nor do I; the community does. I have absolutely no doubt that if JD wins both starleagues, the COMMUNITY will embrace him as the absolute best player by modern standards (which are going to involve closer games and less dominance) and your pathetic attempts to cling to the past will be laughed at and ignored.
My standards are not any less arbitrary than the entire community of team liquid outside of the jaedong fan boys. Thats why hes universally not considered a bonjwa. Thats why bonjwa is universally agreed to be exactly how I described it to be. Thats why Bisu is not a bonjwa. Thats why Flash is not a bonjwa. I'm not trying to justify myself as better than the newer people in the scene, because that does not require justification. It's an axiom, boy.

And ok, im a massive troll, but whats with the obvious flaming of me? Got some sand in your vagina's, Jaedong fans?
On August 06 2009 00:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On August 05 2009 14:48 latent wrote:
I wish people would stop saying Bisu vs. Iris Game 5 was the "best game" in a long time, or "ever", or whatever else. That had to be the most depressing, arrogant, and idiotic mistake of a game I have ever seen. Bisu absolutely threw away the game after his first brilliant hallucination attack. He just let Iris steamroll his economy at 7 and 8 for no reason other than he figured he already had the game in hand and didn't want to waste time defending and expanding.

I understand 5 games will take a toll on one's discipline and self-control, but holy cow that kind of arrogance is just disgusting.

I'm sure Bisu had been practicing hours and hours every day since his last match. It's really sad that he just threw it away with such stupid decision making.

every game has to have a loser thus every game there is a mistake somewhere

it was a great game because of the comeback, and obviously in a comeback someone has to make a mistake for the other person to catch up

you don't hear people saying boxer vs joyo sucked because "joyo totally had him, he totally threw away the lead!"

come the fuck on
Well actually, I've been saying that for years now. Joyo sat there and let like 6 or 7 carriers die with absolutely no micro. It's like he just sat there in a daydream half way through the game.
On August 05 2009 17:26 Jenia6109 wrote:
Little summary:

Game1: Bisu doesn't correctly respond to 2fact push moving his goons back allowing Iris to contain himself and win easily
Bisu mistakes, Iris plays standart
Bisu: 2/5
Iris: 3/5

Game2: Iris makes mistake by not building any anti-DT units
Iris mistakes, Bisu plays standart
Bisu: 3/5
Iris: 2/5
I didn't even bother reading your other game summaries because I found these two particularly funny. Going two fact is not standard [I am under the assumption standart is standard] in the pro circuit anymore. So thats number 1. Number 2, Iris was doing a joyo rush, his anti dt units were meant to be vultures with mines. The timing doesn't work out to through down an eng bay or an academy even if you suspect dt's. I have no idea why he didnt place down mines, I can only presume the upgrade wasn't finished. But no, a proxy dt is not "standart", not to a two fact or any other play. Hell Bisu didn't even know it was a two fact, he didn't get a scout in. It could of been anything.

So a big ol "NO" to your summaries.


Lol. You correct his english spelling and then you make the obvious mistake of writing: "It could of been anything." What a major self fuck. I just could not let it go.
What? Iris could of been doing anything inside his base, thats what I meant. I don't see how thats grammatically incorrect, or anything along those lines. Maybe in the strictest and most technical sense of english- but heres a secret I think non native english speakers [and anal retentive jackasses] should learn: Grammar is irrelevant in English. So long as your ideas are presentable and coherent, it works. The same goes for words, they don't have to be "real" so long as they are coherent. And I did not correct his spelling, I made fun of his continuous mistake. Difference.

[/QUOTE]

"It could have been anything."

If you are going to get anal retentive about someone spelling 'standard' wrong, other people have just as much right (or more) to get anal retentive about you making an obvious grammar mistake, especially when you can't figure it out after it's been pointed out to you.

PS Grammar is not irrelevant in English.[/QUOTE] Well, fair enough, they do have the right to insult me back. But no grammar is not relevant in English outside of essay's or anywhere else that formalized english is required- which just so happens to not be on team liquid.


Edit: No idea how team liquids quote system works, and why yours aint showing up properly. Ah well.
Edit2: To make my grammer point sail home, obviously a base degree of grammer is needed, my point is more along the lines of "this is she", which is the 'proper' response when someone asks for you on the phone [and your a girl]. No one says that. Its fucking weird to the ears, its just retarded. But its the "correct" thing. At the end of the day, english speakers speak a live language, its fluid, and therefore the actual grammer of a language or vocabularly is often helluva different than what it formally is.

Vocabularly example #1: Lawl.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 05 2009 21:18 GMT
#1551
If someone lights a flaming bag of shit and leaves it on your family's doorstep, that's a problem. I'm not saying that Teamliquid is a family, or that you're a flaming bag of shit, DS. I like to believe that people are decent at the core, and that flames and shit are not all that they're made of. But when every post you make on this forum is full of fire and shit, and when you're in a place where words are all that other people have to judge you by you're going to run the risk of being confused with a flaming bag of shit.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-05 21:23:26
August 05 2009 21:22 GMT
#1552
On August 06 2009 06:18 EvoChamber wrote:
If someone lights a flaming bag of shit and leaves it on your family's doorstep, that's a problem. I'm not saying that Teamliquid is a family, or that you're a flaming bag of shit, DS. I like to believe that people are decent at the core, and that flames and shit are not all that they're made of. But when every post you make on this forum is full of fire and shit, and when you're in a place where words are all that other people have to judge you by you're going to run the risk of being confused with a flaming bag of shit.
Lol, thats pretty funny coming from you- I have no idea who the hell you are, the only posts of yours I've seen have been directly flaming me. On the other hand, I've made my fair share of blatantly abusive posts "Im happy your friend is dieing" that sort of thing, but the majority of my posts are pretty timid examinations of the quality of a player or a strategy. Had you actually looked at my posts, rather than launching this random crusade [which I doubt is random, hence my guesses as to its origin] you'd see that I'm hardly half the troll I, or anyone else, makes me out to be.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 05 2009 21:30 GMT
#1553
I'm just saying that the quality of this forum is diminished by your presence here. Quit bragging about being a douchebag and expecting people to like you for it. Quit trying to find some kind of personal motive behind what I'm doing. You're posting on a great forum and making it worse, and that's all the reason I need to flame you.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 05 2009 22:24 GMT
#1554
Hmm, new format to tourny threads?
5 page fanboyism
-- pages live report
25 pages arguing about bonjwas
5 pages flaming
?

:D I like it I like it!
darkness overpowering
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
August 06 2009 01:33 GMT
#1555
Bisu vs Iris game 5 was one of the best and most exciting matches i have ever witnessed in my entire life. DEFINATELY should be a recommended game
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 06 2009 04:37 GMT
#1556
On August 06 2009 05:01 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:35 tobi9999 wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:31 nujabes wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:29 tobi9999 wrote:
Knew it, bisu is too bad PvT to take games even when he has like 4 mining bases vs 2 mining bases


are u dumb? bisu showed in the past that his PvT can be top-tier
he's just played really sloppy overall in this series

But, his PvT really really isn't that great against people like Iris.



You are aware of the fact that he almost killed Iris several times in the fifth game right? Comments like yours makes me think that you have no knowledge of the mechanics involved in TvP and how much concentration and multi-tasking that is involved in fighting off that early proxy robo and goons by Bisu.

I saw the game timer when watching the early game on youtube and thought "ok Iris is dead, I guess they will show some ceremony or whatever the rest of the time"; 20 minutes or whatever.
However he clawed his way back into the game with sick harassment and defending against Bisus army so many times. I was SURE Bisu was gonna win it, even though the game was prolonged.

And to everyone saying Bisu played like shit, you deserve your D- on ICCUP because there is no way in hell, anyone with some knowledge about Starcraft would say that he sucked in these games.

He didn't play badly but he didn't play like the invincible self that he usually is. The mistakes that he made were just so bad.

And making ad hominems like "you deserve your D- on ICCUP" don't reflect well on you or your post.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 06 2009 05:02 GMT
#1557
this must be the most talked about quarterfinals ever
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alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 06 2009 05:16 GMT
#1558
^^ DUHHH dude. cuz bisu freaking lost to iris... thats unacceptable
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alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 06 2009 05:16 GMT
#1559
reminds me of jd's loss to ORION...
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 06 2009 05:18 GMT
#1560
On August 06 2009 14:02 alffla wrote:
this must be the most talked about quarterfinals ever

Really entertaining gameplay+ Really good players+Comeback+Bisu/JD Lost
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