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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 08 2009 15:08 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 12:52 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How can some of you take a tense, action-packed game (5), and tear it to pieces like this?
Instead of, "Congrats, Iris!", we get, "Bisu FAIL, he's still better I are expert iccup you is ign'ant."
Like all competitions, this game isn't played on paper.
Anyway, congrats, Iris! Please beat Kwanro and ascend to the finals! If one of your favorite players played a game as badly as Bisu did, you would react the same way. Why would you care about the opponent?
Actually, when Pusan lost to Boxer in So1 semifinals this is how i reacted
On October 21 2005 06:07 Plexa wrote:even though im a die-hard pusan fan... there is not a better man to lose to than lim yo hwan  gg boxer make up for last osl plzzzzz Instead of tearing the games to shreds you can just accept it and move on.
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On August 09 2009 11:46 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 15:08 BanZu wrote:On August 08 2009 12:52 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How can some of you take a tense, action-packed game (5), and tear it to pieces like this?
Instead of, "Congrats, Iris!", we get, "Bisu FAIL, he's still better I are expert iccup you is ign'ant."
Like all competitions, this game isn't played on paper.
Anyway, congrats, Iris! Please beat Kwanro and ascend to the finals! If one of your favorite players played a game as badly as Bisu did, you would react the same way. Why would you care about the opponent? Actually, when Pusan lost to Boxer in So1 semifinals this is how i reacted Show nested quote +On October 21 2005 06:07 Plexa wrote:even though im a die-hard pusan fan... there is not a better man to lose to than lim yo hwan gg boxer make up for last osl plzzzzz Instead of tearing the games to shreds you can just accept it and move on.
As I said in my previous post somewhere before, I don't care about the results. I'm just noting the way Bisu played.
Btw, Iris is no BoxeR.
On August 09 2009 11:42 Jibba wrote:
NEWS FLASH: BanZu shits all over a thread with a SKT player in it.
I haven't read so much consistent posting diarrhea from one person in a long time.
oh u da coo gai, eh?
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United States22883 Posts
Please, Iris has been consistently underrated throughout his career and has put on some of the best TvX games ever seen, against the best players. He's also 8-6 lifetime against Bisu, so give it up already. You're the worst fanboy on these entire forums.
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On August 09 2009 12:12 Jibba wrote:
Please, Iris has been consistently underrated throughout his career and has put on some of the best TvX games ever seen, against the best players. He's also 8-6 lifetime against Bisu, so give it up already. You're the worst fanboy on these entire forums.
1. I never said anything about Iris playing badly.
2. All I've said was that Bisu made some pretty bad decisions.
3. Everyone else automatically assumed #1 from #2.
4. In fact I thought Iris played pretty damn well so I don't know what you're complaining about. Just because I said Bisu played badly doesn't mean Iris played badly too LMAO. In fact, Bisu was ahead at one point in the game and did lose his advantage. Through what? His bad decisions AND Iris' harassment plus solid decision making/actions/etc. Just because I don't mention Iris side of the game doesn't mean I don't think it existed.
5. Lulz
EDIT: You know, up until now I never realized how sensitive people are. I only complained about Bisu's horrible play and then everyone started QQing about not giving Iris credit. FFS I don't care about Iris at the moment. If I'm a "fanboy" of Bisu then why can't I state my opinions? You can bask in the win of Iris while I QQ in Bisu's defeat. What the hell is it to you guys anyway?
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United States22883 Posts
Bisu made mistakes that lost him the game. Those mistakes weren't caused by Iris, which is why the outcome of the game mostly can't be attributed to Iris. Iris is one of the very few terrans who could've won that game. Your comments are arrogant, usually wrong and you're a horrible sport, even when your guy wins.
On August 09 2009 02:48 BanZu wrote:
HAHA Fantasy beating JD again is much better than SKT winning 4-0
You make the entire SKT fanbase look worse. Nearly all of your posts in that thread are full of disrespect.
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On August 09 2009 12:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +Bisu made mistakes that lost him the game. Those mistakes weren't caused by Iris, which is why the outcome of the game mostly can't be attributed to Iris. Iris is one of the very few terrans who could've won that game. Your comments are arrogant, usually wrong and you're a horrible sport, even when your guy wins.
1. Fanboy comments come from ALL fanboys.
2. Did my comment say that Iris played badly? I never said Iris didn't capitalize on Bisu's mistakes. I never said that Iris somehow stumbled onto victory. Did I? And it's true isn't it? Did Iris cause Bisu to engage in battle, even when the trade-off wasn't worth it? I suppose you can say that his "sneaky" 3rd caused Bisu to underestimate Iris' army. But really, do you think Iris intended for that? I'm not sure about that either, but I simply drew from what I thought I knew.
3. If you think my comments are arrogant, then perhaps you're mistaken. How can simply stating one's own opinion be arrogant? The tone perhaps might be that way but that's your interpretation. It's hard to base my character on anything else but keep in mind that a person's character on the internet is usually never all there is to them.
4. The comment of mine that you posted only talked about Bisu's mistakes, not about Iris. So the comment before this one still stands. I never said that Iris played badly (because he played damn well). It's just that Bisu's mistakes were so blindingly obvious that Iris' play paled in comparison to me. REMEMBER, it's an opinion.
EDIT: Look at it this way. JD vs Hyuk. JD goes 12 hatch, which MANY people said was a stupid mistake. Hyuk goes in for the win by playing solidly off a 9 pool (right?). Can you deny that JD's mistake allowed Hyuk to win? No matter what way you look it, it's a mistake not influenced by the opponent's play.
Same thing with Iris vs Bisu. Iris can't force Bisu to attack into his own army when his army is just SITTING there. Bisu's arrogance (as many see it) led to his mistake of attacking. That's the mistake I've been talking about.
Afterwards, a few people mentioned Hyuk's brilliant muta micro and decision making. But many, many more people brought up JD's mistake of going 12 hatch. He could've played safely, but he didn't. Bisu could've sat on his many bases and played safely, but he didn't.
Do? you find the complaining about JD's BO much more reasonable? If so, then there's some bias.
On August 09 2009 12:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 02:48 BanZu wrote:
HAHA Fantasy beating JD again is much better than SKT winning 4-0 You make the entire SKT fanbase look worse. Nearly all of your posts in that thread are full of disrespect.
What, I can't state my opinion now? I can't say that one of my favorite players beating another REALLY good player is better than him not playing at all? I can't say that it's much better that I get to see another game with two titans playing each other? That comment was completely ignoring that negative fall-out that would occur on JD's mindset. If I'm not allowed to wake up in the morning after going to sleep in the middle of Finals, unsure of who would win, and check the results to see that Fantasy won and right afterwards post a spur-of-the-moment post, then yes, I'm in the wrong. But mind you, so are many people. I suppose you interpreted from my post all the negative things you could possibly imagine. But really, how would you know?
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BanZu's not the worst SKT T1 fanboy on these forums. I know how both of you feel, same thing with the Jaedong vs Hwasin ace match during Proleague. You're both right, but you both like to talk about your favorite player, and when you only talk about one player, it implies that the other player played worse.
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