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On June 30 2009 23:07 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 21:10 SuperArc wrote:On June 30 2009 20:58 disciple wrote: I was just starting to be confident in Kals game, but damn, this guy is making it so painful for me to be his fan Losing to BackHo isn't horrible. well, Kal's recent PvP record has been outstanding, BackHo is not the most suitable guy to broke this streak If you look at their record against each other, Backho is 4-0 against Kal including today's game.
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Kona's curse predictions strike again
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I went to bed so sure of a 3-1. BUT NOT THIS ONE.
FUUUUUUUUCK
I'll have to watch the games and come up with excuses of why we lost
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On July 01 2009 00:48 Ideas wrote:I went to bed so sure of a 3-1. BUT NOT THIS ONE. FUUUUUUUUCK I'll have to watch the games and come up with excuses of why we lost + Show Spoiler +Jaedong > Modesty. No excuses there. Lomo < Hwasin. Lomo got too greedy and expanded too much although I don't think you would be looking for an excuse for this one Backho > Kal. Nice play from Backho. However you have to put Kal's build order disadvantage into consideration (DT opening vs obs opening) Hiya > Calm. Calm used the ultra fast muta build that Yarnc used against Flash but Hiya defended nicely despite losing a lot of SCVs and killed Calm with a sweet timing push.
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On July 01 2009 00:52 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 00:48 Ideas wrote:I went to bed so sure of a 3-1. BUT NOT THIS ONE. FUUUUUUUUCK I'll have to watch the games and come up with excuses of why we lost + Show Spoiler +Jaedong > Modesty. No excuses there. Lomo < Hwasin. Lomo got too greedy and expanded too much although I don't think you would be looking for an excuse for this one Backho > Kal. Nice play from Backho. However you have to put Kal's build order disadvantage into consideration (DT opening vs obs opening) Hiya > Calm. Calm used the ultra fast muta build that Yarnc used against Flash but Hiya defended nicely despite losing a lot of SCVs and killed Calm with a sweet timing push. Yeah this is pretty accurate... I'd like to add that Hiya's timing push was spur-of-the-moment (he cut SCVs even though his nat was empty)
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oh man backho's game was great
good to see that he isn't sucking
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hwasin seems to be on an upswing. schweet
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On July 01 2009 01:19 Refrige wrote: hwasin seems to be on an upswing. schweet
very much. can't wait for bisu vs hwasin gogo hwasin
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On July 01 2009 01:26 StorZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 01:19 Refrige wrote: hwasin seems to be on an upswing. schweet very much. can't wait for bisu vs hwasin gogo hwasin pft bisu will roll hwasin bonjwa > insurance
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On July 01 2009 01:28 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 01:26 StorZerg wrote:On July 01 2009 01:19 Refrige wrote: hwasin seems to be on an upswing. schweet very much. can't wait for bisu vs hwasin gogo hwasin pft bisu will roll hwasin bonjwa > insurance
just that Bisu is no bonjwa, lol
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On July 01 2009 01:07 o3.power91 wrote:TLPD Fail: + Show Spoiler +Also, TLPD says Kal is on a 10 win streak PvP lol, okay. Terran Backho
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On July 01 2009 01:36 Avidkeystamper wrote: Backho's not terran >.> everything around backho is failing
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Jaedong's current (and peak) ZvZ Elo is 2343. That's 200 points ahead of the second highest current ZvZ (Effort, 2137) and 130 higher than the next best peak ever (Luxury, 2210, 8 months ago). Not to mention he'd have to lose 2 out of his next 3 games to drop to an 80% lifetime win rate. Utterly ridiculous domination of the matchup.
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On July 01 2009 01:55 Macavenger wrote: Jaedong's current (and peak) ZvZ Elo is 2343. That's 200 points ahead of the second highest current ZvZ (Effort, 2137) and 130 higher than the next best peak ever (Luxury, 2210, 8 months ago). Not to mention he'd have to lose 2 out of his next 3 games to drop to an 80% lifetime win rate. Utterly ridiculous domination of the matchup. Imagine how much more impressive this record would've been if it was about ZvP or ZvT and not for a MU which for 10 years of professional starcraft in Korea produced around 5 memorable games in total
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On July 01 2009 02:07 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 01:55 Macavenger wrote: Jaedong's current (and peak) ZvZ Elo is 2343. That's 200 points ahead of the second highest current ZvZ (Effort, 2137) and 130 higher than the next best peak ever (Luxury, 2210, 8 months ago). Not to mention he'd have to lose 2 out of his next 3 games to drop to an 80% lifetime win rate. Utterly ridiculous domination of the matchup. Imagine how much more impressive this record would've been if it was about ZvP or ZvT and not for a MU which for 10 years of professional starcraft in Korea produced around 5 memorable games in total On the contrary, with different races, there are always open questions about the map pool, the strategies used (maybe one side has gotten a temporary edge in the meta-game), etc. In a mirror match, there is no denying that it is pure skill.
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On July 01 2009 02:12 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 02:07 disciple wrote:On July 01 2009 01:55 Macavenger wrote: Jaedong's current (and peak) ZvZ Elo is 2343. That's 200 points ahead of the second highest current ZvZ (Effort, 2137) and 130 higher than the next best peak ever (Luxury, 2210, 8 months ago). Not to mention he'd have to lose 2 out of his next 3 games to drop to an 80% lifetime win rate. Utterly ridiculous domination of the matchup. Imagine how much more impressive this record would've been if it was about ZvP or ZvT and not for a MU which for 10 years of professional starcraft in Korea produced around 5 memorable games in total On the contrary, with different races, there are always open questions about the map pool, the strategies used (maybe one side has gotten a temporary edge in the meta-game), etc. In a mirror match, there is no denying that it is pure skill.
It is true. I cannot deny that it is pure skill.
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On July 01 2009 02:18 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2009 02:12 qrs wrote:On July 01 2009 02:07 disciple wrote:On July 01 2009 01:55 Macavenger wrote: Jaedong's current (and peak) ZvZ Elo is 2343. That's 200 points ahead of the second highest current ZvZ (Effort, 2137) and 130 higher than the next best peak ever (Luxury, 2210, 8 months ago). Not to mention he'd have to lose 2 out of his next 3 games to drop to an 80% lifetime win rate. Utterly ridiculous domination of the matchup. Imagine how much more impressive this record would've been if it was about ZvP or ZvT and not for a MU which for 10 years of professional starcraft in Korea produced around 5 memorable games in total On the contrary, with different races, there are always open questions about the map pool, the strategies used (maybe one side has gotten a temporary edge in the meta-game), etc. In a mirror match, there is no denying that it is pure skill. It is true. I cannot deny that it is pure skill. No one will deny it, it just sucks that a player pulled out this astonishing achievement in arguably the most technical MU there is. I mean the only zvz games which are coming on top of my head are some crazy ass hydra or hive builds which actually has nothing to do with was Jaedong is showing every time. Actually his games vs OversKy were all very entertaining but imho JD's zvz record will always stay eclipsed by smth like oov's 27-0 tvz
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I put a translation of winners' interview here for fellow oz fans and others who maybe interested.
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