EPT[SPL] Hwaseung Oz vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 78
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n.DieJokes
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SimonB
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On June 08 2009 09:31 Avidkeystamper wrote: Could JD and Bisu have gotten so good that whenever they play each other, it's not as exciting since an early advantage always translates into a pretty easy win? This is my theory. Except that I was pretty damn excited when I watched the VOD, and I already knew who was going to win. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On June 08 2009 11:54 Djabanete wrote: This is my theory. Except that I was pretty damn excited when I watched the VOD, and I already knew who was going to win. I got a little worried in the middle, when they sort of traded armies on the little ledge. Bisu only had a handful of units left and I thought oh shit Zerg is gonna rebuild and macro up a replacement army much faster than toss. But somehow he managed to roll that handful of units down a hill like a snowball and it wasn't long before he got the protoss ball rolling again, alas a few obs short nevertheless. | ||
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KaRnaGe[cF]
United States355 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + at least im hope cuz that would be cool | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
Edit: Er, I guess it's the fourth/fifth expos actually. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
First time ive ever seen goons own like that. Edit: Simon B...the ledge had little to do with it. Jaedong just kept sniping observers. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On June 08 2009 04:20 TwoToneTerran wrote: woops, my bad. What I get for staying up late. Should just edit it to be 33% because that's still abysmal. I have a loopy brain that associates 33%=1/3=1:3 I guess. You're basing it on a sample size of 12 games? Good job. You can't tell imbalances based on such small stats. You have to look at the games themselves. In most games, the better player won, and while the map certainly isnt zerg favored (unlike many, many maps that are zerg favored vs toss) you can't say its horrifically imbalanced. A slight imbalance this way or that is a common feature of almost every map and it is NOT an excuse. Besides, watching this game it becomes apparent that the map played only a small role in the outcome of the game. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
"Besides, watching this game it becomes apparent that the map played only a small role in the outcome of the game." He was referring to the fact that people are denying an imbalance; he already stated the map played a minor role. Geez, it's an endless cycle. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On June 08 2009 01:13 DamageControL wrote: I think its kind of annoying how even though this map sucks for zerg Hwaseung basically has to send out JD because he's the only one who can keep up with Bisu on OZ Do you know anyone besides Jaedong and maybe Flash who can keep up with Bisu period? Anyone else in the entire Proscene would be an auto-lose. Go ahead and pick: Fantasy, Leta, Effort, ZerO, Stork, Jangbi, all of them would fall before Bisu. OZ was lucky to have Jaedong to put into that match. On June 08 2009 07:32 Kyo Yuy wrote: I would say at this current point in time their skill levels are too close to conclusively say that one is better than the other. During the beginning of 2008, Jaedong was definitively the better player, while during the fall of 08 Bisu was definitively better IMO. But now they're really close and I don't think there is a clear winner as to who is "better" right now. Honestly, I don't care which one is better. I want the Bo5 because it would be absolutely fucking epic! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 08 2009 13:37 FieryBalrog wrote: You're basing it on a sample size of 12 games? Good job. You can't tell imbalances based on such small stats. You have to look at the games themselves. In most games, the better player won, and while the map certainly isnt zerg favored (unlike many, many maps that are zerg favored vs toss) you can't say its horrifically imbalanced. A slight imbalance this way or that is a common feature of almost every map and it is NOT an excuse. Besides, watching this game it becomes apparent that the map played only a small role in the outcome of the game. Do you really want a long winding essay about it? That was supplemental to the point that HBR is imbalanced in protoss's favor, specifically because of storm. You'd be insane to think otherwise. I mean it's not "this way or that" it is plain and simple fact that the map is heavily p favored. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
You guys are dumbasses. Seriously. So sincere. I'm saying you're a dumbass. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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disciple
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Mania[K]al
United States359 Posts
OHWAIT. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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NO MY LIQUIBET
United States294 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Folks seem to think saying HBR is highly protoss favored means I don't think Bisu played better this game when that's just not true. :x | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Anyway, I didn't notice that Jaedong canceled the spire. I'm only a D/D+ player and even I would never even think of doing that because of all the overlords I'd lose. I wonder what his reasoning was... | ||
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