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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
June 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#1261
Ahh, I was rooting for Jaedong but the result isn't too surprising. Bisu has been nigh-unbeatable in all matchups lately, whereas Jaedong has played primarily ZvZ for a month and a half.

Jaedong is soooo sooo good but he even looked somewhat mortal going 2-2 against Movie and 2-1 against jjonga....
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3827 Posts
June 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#1262
Bisu's protecting his Ht's was pretty clutch... and that basically won him the game because he just annihilated that early hydra army... --> destroyed 4th.
: o )
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#1263
On June 07 2009 15:45 Solinren wrote:
2 more hours utnil GOM! What a night

saturday nights are great for SC
© Current year.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#1264
Bisu doesn't have the pressure to deliver everytime as much as Jaedong does -_- Doesn't anyone realize that... The Coach is dumb for turning off Anytime and fOrGG the way he did
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
June 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#1265
On June 07 2009 15:45 GTR wrote:
no surprise jaedong fanboys screaming map imbalance


No surprise Bisu fanboys screaming that the map imbalance didnt change anything.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1266
On June 07 2009 15:45 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 15:43 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:43 JWD wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:42 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:41 JWD wrote:
GGGGGGGGGGG

FANGIRLS CREAM THEMSELVES

BISU: TOO STRONG


Because he could win on a quite imbalanced map? Clearly overpowering.

oh come on man, let me enjoy this one moment of glory

with best sucking ass lately and my fantasy PL team blowing a nut tonight, Bisu and T1 are all I have left

I guess since there's nothing else to separate them, Bisu will take #1 PR. But it feels so gipped.

How so? Bisu won fair and square...straight up outplayed Jaedong here.

But the PR isn't out yet, so don't start your complaining already!

Okay, Jaedong lost a lot of overlords since his spire was late. This was because of his overpool as opposed to a normal 12 hatch. However, a 12 hatch is suicidal on this map for zergs since the other races can box them in using the choke. I'm not going to go on, since Bisu won in the end.
Jaedong
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1267
I kind of feel bad for JD now even though I'm glad SKT won. I'm just torn between the best players in their respective races :/
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1268
On June 07 2009 15:46 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 15:45 OneOther wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:44 scwizard wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:43 OneOther wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:42 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On June 07 2009 15:41 JWD wrote:
GGGGGGGGGGG

FANGIRLS CREAM THEMSELVES

BISU: TOO STRONG


Because he could win on a quite imbalanced map? Clearly overpowering.

you serious? bisu outplayed jaedong that game, simple and easy. the map played a negligible part

I wouldn't call the map "negligible", but Bisu did outplay Jaedong.

i don't see why jaedong lost other than his mutas failing. jaedong needed to defend the ramp that leads to his fourth base, and he failed to do that because of failed mutas


The fourth is retardedly hard to defend for Z. That's an imbalance, go figure.


Wait...is that how JD lost? Oh yea. It was
Jaedong :3
NO MY LIQUIBET
Profile Joined May 2009
United States294 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1269
It was a good game, but Jaedong just let the game get out of his control too early and let Bisu dominate the early game with Corsairs. His scourge control was uncharacteristcally bad this game.
NO MY LIQUIBET
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1270
JD did make a few really big errors though like losing 4 ovies or letting Bisu see everything.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Aurioch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States414 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1271
For all those who cries about map imba or map not imba, I think at these guys' level, map wouldn't be the x-factor anymore
My life for aiur
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1272
I think he lost too many overlords with his overlord build.
Jaedong :3
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1273
such an exciting series thanks to those who stream the games for us!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 06:48:27
June 07 2009 06:47 GMT
#1274
Game wasn't decided by map imbalance, it was the mutas getting stormed and being too damaged to take out enough templars. Bisu's first push would look the same on any map, and this time it took out Jaedong's new 4th and all his hydras. The only thing the map did was turn a 5% chance to comeback into a 0% after the first big clash.
日本語が分かりますか
XYoonZ
Profile Joined January 2009
United States282 Posts
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1275
JD's mutas did nothing.
Soft spot for Zerg....
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 06:49:20
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1276
On June 07 2009 15:47 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:
It was a good game, but Jaedong just let the game get out of his control too early and let Bisu dominate the early game with Corsairs. His scourge control was uncharacteristcally bad this game.

exactly, also he didnt denied 2nd scout, so Bisu's corsair could go for free kills immediately
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1277
Good game... but 1 lost against bisu doesnt mean anything, the map either... Bisu just played smart and Jd not...This 2 gamers are the best of the best
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
medic27
Profile Joined January 2009
United States135 Posts
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1278
On June 07 2009 15:46 Gumbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 15:45 GTR wrote:
no surprise jaedong fanboys screaming map imbalance


No surprise Bisu fanboys screaming that the map imbalance didnt change anything.


No surprise petty arguments on both sides doesn't change a single person's opinion.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1279
I love when these guys play. One mistake, the other wins, instantly. Thats Bonjwa-ness for you.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
June 07 2009 06:48 GMT
#1280
I am not a JD fan, but the difficult to hold 4th was the main reason he lost in that game. That's not saying it would have gone differently on a different map because of course Bisu would have also played differently. It just feels like less of a complete victory to me because of the map.
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