• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:31
CET 09:31
KST 17:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0247LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 The Dave Testa Open #11 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2012 users

[SPL] Hwaseung Oz vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 77 78 79 Next
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 06 2009 14:56 GMT
#41
nice T1 lounge, waiting for Hwaseung House aswell! I think Oz will take this 3-1 tho, (T)HiyA's TvP is pretty decent and im expecting him to pull a surprise here, also its (P)BackHo's best MU against (T)Canata's worst! If it still goes to ace match somehow, T1 should be able to win considering what map it is, so lets not let it go to ace
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 06 2009 15:03 GMT
#42
*opens page*
*jizzes pants*

Why is this only three pages?

*looks at the calendar*
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
June 06 2009 15:12 GMT
#43
Maybe it's just bad timing =/
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 15:14 GMT
#44
Really early in the morning for the US.
Remember Violet.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 15:16:31
June 06 2009 15:15 GMT
#45
My predictions:
(Z)Jaedong<Outsider>(Z)Hyuk
(T)HiyA<Destination>(P)Bisu
(T)Lomo<Shades of Twilight>(T)fantasy
(P)BackHo<God's Garden>(T)Canata
(Z)Jaedong <Heartbreak Ridge> (T)fantasy
Hwaseung Oz < 2 - 3 > SK Telecom T1
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 15:18:41
June 06 2009 15:16 GMT
#46
"Hwaseung House", "T1 Lounge"..... "eSTRO Basement"?

Predictions:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Hyuk
I better not come back tomorrow and find Jaedong lost this.
(T)HiyA < (P)Bisu
I better not come back tomorrow and find Bisu lost this.
(T)Lomo < (T)fantasy
Lomo is less than 50% in this match-up, and fantasy's TvT is a force to be reckoned with, this should be the third no-brainer game here.
(P)BackHo > (T)Canata
BackHo is playing his best match-up whereas Canata is playing his worst. But if it's 2-1 to any team at this point, I fully expect that the player for the winning team will throw this match, because somehow, in a week full of fantastic match-ups, we've been utterly cheated out of any drama whatsoever in this match-up. No fantasy v. Jaedong. No Bisu v. Jaedong. NOTHING! WE NEED AN ACE MATCH!

ACE MATCH:
(Z)Jaedong v. (P)Bisu
I have no idea who would win this game. But I want to see.

BONUS: If (T)fantasy plays ACE, that would be expectable as well. If BeSt goes in, KeSPA should just ban the SKT1 team permanently.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 15:20 GMT
#47
Yeah this seems pretty cut and dry -- every player is the obvious favorite in their match up, Jaedong vs Z, Bisu on Destination, Fantasy is obviously better at tvt than Lomo, and Backho vs a Protoss weak terran on a fairly balanced match for the MU.

Comes down to HBR where Bisu is the obvious choice given its protoss leaning. If I had to bet my life on it, I'd go with Bisu > Jaedong. The two are so close right now, and even though feel Jaedong is better, I think HBR's gonna swing it towards Bisu.

If Jaedong does beat Bisu on HBR, then it's pretty cut and dry who the current top dog is.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 15:49 GMT
#48
Bisu isn't a huge favourite against Hiya since its his worst matchup and Hiya's best (good enough to beat dragons including Bisu)
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 06 2009 15:49 GMT
#49
I'm really hyped for this game, great OP, I liked to T1 lounge thingie.

(Z)Jaedong<Outsider>(Z)Hyuk
I don't think anyone would disagree with my pick for this one. (Z)Jaedong has a goldy ZvZ while (Z)Hyuk is (Z)Hyuk and rarely wins,let alone shine. If I don't sound very convincing perhaps you should check Jaedong's tlpd page.

(T)HiyA<Destination>(P)Bisu
I actually consider (T)HiyA to have one of the best TvP's in the korean scene. I do agree that it's his style a little bland and he's not as entertaining as fantasy/leta/flash but he gets the job done. Unfortunatelly for him he's up against (P)Bisu. Even if PvT is not (P)Bisu's best mu, he's still one of the best players at the moment and I don't see him losing this.

(T)Lomo<Shades of Twilight>(T)fantasy
While (T)fantasy's TvT is pretty solid, (T)Lomo's TvT is terrible. I'm not even kidding, (T)Lomo hasn't won a TvT against anybody notable since Club Day MSL. My money's on (T)fantasy for this one.

(P)BackHo<God's Garden>(T)Canata
At first I though God's Garden is a protoss map considering is so big and terran has such a hard time pushing on it but surprisingly the stats actually favor terrans. While (T)Canata has beet starting to win again recently and even knocked out (T)UpMaGiC from the OSL, his TvP hasn't really been tested. I do agree that (P)BackHo doesn't have stellar PvT, but he's above decent and should win against (T)Canata here.

(Z)Jaedong <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)Bisu
And the game everyone's been waiting for. If the series drags on to the ace match, (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong would be the only natural choices Of course there's (T)fantasy but he seems to either be very creative and humiliate his zergs opponents or very unconvicing and lose to no-names. Considering the ace does get to be (Z)Jaedong vs (P)Bisu, the game has the potentail of being huge I don't really see a clear favorite to winning this, both of them being VERY good at the given match-up. Still, I believe that the map's slight imbalance in PvZ will tip the scales in (P)Bisu's favor.

Hoping for good games. T1, this is your chance to catch up on Oz in the rankings, take the win home!
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 16:01 GMT
#50
On June 07 2009 00:49 SuperArc wrote:
Bisu isn't a huge favourite against Hiya since its his worst matchup and Hiya's best (good enough to beat dragons including Bisu)


If it were on a perfectly balanced map I'd only give Bisu a slight favorite over the wonderful sniper that is Hiya, but destination is 60% pvt favored after nearly a hundred games. Bisu's already good enough, but give him map advantage on top of that and he's the easy favorite.

Not to say I'd be surprised if Hiya won. He's Oz's best chance at avoiding an ace match on hbr.
Remember Violet.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
June 06 2009 16:13 GMT
#51
T1 LOUNGE omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg!!!111one!

Nice one kona. Like the layouts aswell - disciple. T1 ftw. And JD ftl. Saw what I did there?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 06 2009 16:14 GMT
#52
SKTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 16:15 GMT
#53
Doesn't Hiya have a special build on Destination?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
June 06 2009 16:38 GMT
#54
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 16:40:53
June 06 2009 16:40 GMT
#55
On June 07 2009 01:38 ondik wrote:
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.


What else is his worst matchup? :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TheRunawayFound
Profile Joined March 2009
64 Posts
June 06 2009 17:05 GMT
#56
Expecting an ace match

Jaedong>Hyuk
HiyA < Bisu
Lomo < Fantasy
BackHo > Canata
Jaedong < Bisu

OZ (2) < SKT (3)
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 06 2009 17:22 GMT
#57
Bisu > Jaedong on HBR.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 06 2009 17:30 GMT
#58
On June 07 2009 01:38 ondik wrote:
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.


People also tend to forget he all-killed the all-star terran team.
bisu fanboy
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 17:44 GMT
#59
Wasn't Flash the only good TvP player in the all star team?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 06 2009 17:47 GMT
#60
I really hope this goes to Ace match. ozsuckswithoutmezerg fighting!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 77 78 79 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 176
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4096
GuemChi 2253
Sea 976
Horang2 722
Rain 638
Stork 152
Pusan 137
Mong 101
Dewaltoss 86
BeSt 47
[ Show more ]
Sharp 40
ToSsGirL 36
Light 29
Purpose 24
sSak 21
Backho 20
ZergMaN 16
Bale 16
GoRush 13
910 10
Noble 7
IntoTheRainbow 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 411
NeuroSwarm121
febbydoto23
League of Legends
JimRising 571
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1093
m0e_tv692
Other Games
ceh9435
C9.Mang0323
Happy226
Mew2King106
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick934
Counter-Strike
PGL380
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH238
• Gemini_19 24
• LUISG 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1120
• Stunt562
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 29m
KCM Race Survival
1h 29m
Replay Cast
15h 29m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 18h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
OSC
2 days
SC Evo Complete
2 days
DaveTesta Events
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.