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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 06 2009 14:56 GMT
#41
nice T1 lounge, waiting for Hwaseung House aswell! I think Oz will take this 3-1 tho, (T)HiyA's TvP is pretty decent and im expecting him to pull a surprise here, also its (P)BackHo's best MU against (T)Canata's worst! If it still goes to ace match somehow, T1 should be able to win considering what map it is, so lets not let it go to ace
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 06 2009 15:03 GMT
#42
*opens page*
*jizzes pants*

Why is this only three pages?

*looks at the calendar*
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
June 06 2009 15:12 GMT
#43
Maybe it's just bad timing =/
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 15:14 GMT
#44
Really early in the morning for the US.
Remember Violet.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 15:16:31
June 06 2009 15:15 GMT
#45
My predictions:
(Z)Jaedong<Outsider>(Z)Hyuk
(T)HiyA<Destination>(P)Bisu
(T)Lomo<Shades of Twilight>(T)fantasy
(P)BackHo<God's Garden>(T)Canata
(Z)Jaedong <Heartbreak Ridge> (T)fantasy
Hwaseung Oz < 2 - 3 > SK Telecom T1
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 15:18:41
June 06 2009 15:16 GMT
#46
"Hwaseung House", "T1 Lounge"..... "eSTRO Basement"?

Predictions:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Hyuk
I better not come back tomorrow and find Jaedong lost this.
(T)HiyA < (P)Bisu
I better not come back tomorrow and find Bisu lost this.
(T)Lomo < (T)fantasy
Lomo is less than 50% in this match-up, and fantasy's TvT is a force to be reckoned with, this should be the third no-brainer game here.
(P)BackHo > (T)Canata
BackHo is playing his best match-up whereas Canata is playing his worst. But if it's 2-1 to any team at this point, I fully expect that the player for the winning team will throw this match, because somehow, in a week full of fantastic match-ups, we've been utterly cheated out of any drama whatsoever in this match-up. No fantasy v. Jaedong. No Bisu v. Jaedong. NOTHING! WE NEED AN ACE MATCH!

ACE MATCH:
(Z)Jaedong v. (P)Bisu
I have no idea who would win this game. But I want to see.

BONUS: If (T)fantasy plays ACE, that would be expectable as well. If BeSt goes in, KeSPA should just ban the SKT1 team permanently.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 15:20 GMT
#47
Yeah this seems pretty cut and dry -- every player is the obvious favorite in their match up, Jaedong vs Z, Bisu on Destination, Fantasy is obviously better at tvt than Lomo, and Backho vs a Protoss weak terran on a fairly balanced match for the MU.

Comes down to HBR where Bisu is the obvious choice given its protoss leaning. If I had to bet my life on it, I'd go with Bisu > Jaedong. The two are so close right now, and even though feel Jaedong is better, I think HBR's gonna swing it towards Bisu.

If Jaedong does beat Bisu on HBR, then it's pretty cut and dry who the current top dog is.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 15:49 GMT
#48
Bisu isn't a huge favourite against Hiya since its his worst matchup and Hiya's best (good enough to beat dragons including Bisu)
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 06 2009 15:49 GMT
#49
I'm really hyped for this game, great OP, I liked to T1 lounge thingie.

(Z)Jaedong<Outsider>(Z)Hyuk
I don't think anyone would disagree with my pick for this one. (Z)Jaedong has a goldy ZvZ while (Z)Hyuk is (Z)Hyuk and rarely wins,let alone shine. If I don't sound very convincing perhaps you should check Jaedong's tlpd page.

(T)HiyA<Destination>(P)Bisu
I actually consider (T)HiyA to have one of the best TvP's in the korean scene. I do agree that it's his style a little bland and he's not as entertaining as fantasy/leta/flash but he gets the job done. Unfortunatelly for him he's up against (P)Bisu. Even if PvT is not (P)Bisu's best mu, he's still one of the best players at the moment and I don't see him losing this.

(T)Lomo<Shades of Twilight>(T)fantasy
While (T)fantasy's TvT is pretty solid, (T)Lomo's TvT is terrible. I'm not even kidding, (T)Lomo hasn't won a TvT against anybody notable since Club Day MSL. My money's on (T)fantasy for this one.

(P)BackHo<God's Garden>(T)Canata
At first I though God's Garden is a protoss map considering is so big and terran has such a hard time pushing on it but surprisingly the stats actually favor terrans. While (T)Canata has beet starting to win again recently and even knocked out (T)UpMaGiC from the OSL, his TvP hasn't really been tested. I do agree that (P)BackHo doesn't have stellar PvT, but he's above decent and should win against (T)Canata here.

(Z)Jaedong <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)Bisu
And the game everyone's been waiting for. If the series drags on to the ace match, (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong would be the only natural choices Of course there's (T)fantasy but he seems to either be very creative and humiliate his zergs opponents or very unconvicing and lose to no-names. Considering the ace does get to be (Z)Jaedong vs (P)Bisu, the game has the potentail of being huge I don't really see a clear favorite to winning this, both of them being VERY good at the given match-up. Still, I believe that the map's slight imbalance in PvZ will tip the scales in (P)Bisu's favor.

Hoping for good games. T1, this is your chance to catch up on Oz in the rankings, take the win home!
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2009 16:01 GMT
#50
On June 07 2009 00:49 SuperArc wrote:
Bisu isn't a huge favourite against Hiya since its his worst matchup and Hiya's best (good enough to beat dragons including Bisu)


If it were on a perfectly balanced map I'd only give Bisu a slight favorite over the wonderful sniper that is Hiya, but destination is 60% pvt favored after nearly a hundred games. Bisu's already good enough, but give him map advantage on top of that and he's the easy favorite.

Not to say I'd be surprised if Hiya won. He's Oz's best chance at avoiding an ace match on hbr.
Remember Violet.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
June 06 2009 16:13 GMT
#51
T1 LOUNGE omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg!!!111one!

Nice one kona. Like the layouts aswell - disciple. T1 ftw. And JD ftl. Saw what I did there?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 06 2009 16:14 GMT
#52
SKTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 16:15 GMT
#53
Doesn't Hiya have a special build on Destination?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
June 06 2009 16:38 GMT
#54
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 16:40:53
June 06 2009 16:40 GMT
#55
On June 07 2009 01:38 ondik wrote:
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.


What else is his worst matchup? :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TheRunawayFound
Profile Joined March 2009
64 Posts
June 06 2009 17:05 GMT
#56
Expecting an ace match

Jaedong>Hyuk
HiyA < Bisu
Lomo < Fantasy
BackHo > Canata
Jaedong < Bisu

OZ (2) < SKT (3)
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 06 2009 17:22 GMT
#57
Bisu > Jaedong on HBR.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 06 2009 17:30 GMT
#58
On June 07 2009 01:38 ondik wrote:
Excluding games with Fantasy, Bisu is 18-2 in his last 20 games vs T. Worst matchup? LOL maybe it used to be. Hiya's only chance is to come up with some special build.


People also tend to forget he all-killed the all-star terran team.
bisu fanboy
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 06 2009 17:44 GMT
#59
Wasn't Flash the only good TvP player in the all star team?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 06 2009 17:47 GMT
#60
I really hope this goes to Ace match. ozsuckswithoutmezerg fighting!
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