EPT[Valor] Ro16 Day 1 - Page 46
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Austin10833 Posts
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cronican
Canada424 Posts
Idra - Obviously SDM has a problem with you. Personally, I think he made his thoughts known in the worst possible way. He attacked you through a medium that I would say the majority of the foreign scene keeps up with. I don't care what he (or anyone) thinks his justifications were, because it is never okay to say those things on that stage about anyone. However, I do not doubt that SDM realizes (or will realize) this. You seriously need to speak with SDM because he is not some random hater on the internet. He is a former coach and one of the founding members of the starcraft scene, not to mention he gave you the opportunity to be a progamer. You absolutely must hammer this out with him because speaking from a strictly businesslike perspective, he is not someone you want to have dislike you. I'm sure you can come up with a lot of reasons why. I think I should say that I didn't disagree with everything he said, but I sure did disagree with the where and when he said it. Things like that should be left to blog posts, interviews or games SDM doesn't cast. I'm not trying to flame you. I just want you to see that there are plenty of other things that SDM could have freaked out over. So I don't think you can say that SDM overreacted to this particular incident when he sure as hell would have flipped out over that series versus fenix or hell - f91 for that matter. What I'm saying is this has probably been a long time coming. You need to fix this - now. For your own sake. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7499 Posts
SDM owes us an apology AND idra. I've had time to reflect and think about it and the fact is I don't give a flying fucking about valor and will not watch it until I hear that he apologizes to idra. That was very disrespectfull. The things he said about idra can be summed up as slander and whats worse with the stupid social structure of korean culture he might not actually feel the need to apologize even though he was clearly wrong. | ||
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SaharaDrac
United States76 Posts
Idra is an embarassment. He doesn't belong in Korea. He doesn't have the skills to be on a Korean pro gaming team. The only reason he's on CJ is bcause he's a fucking novelty, and makes CJ appear "open minded". I bet they're kicking themselves over that move now. He brings shame to his team and to his country, MY country, and he's a spoiled fucking child. END. OF. STORY. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7499 Posts
I'll be nice since you clearly don't know me. I've called idra out publicly for being an asshole more times then you have posted on this forum buddy so you can check that 'kissing his ass' shit at the door. And also the rest of your bullshit opinions. Idra isn't anywhere near the worst player on the CJ B team. Some of the players you jerk off in a sock to, he beats in practice. I can say things based on facts, you can post terrible opinions based on your reaction to negative PR, from ira and others. Now lets see what else to respond to. Your country?... Its mine too buddy and unfortunately we allowed republicians to run our polititics for 8 years so .... I'm sure idra isn't causing nearly as much damage as others I mean you do realize he plays video games right? Definately a political liablity. I think Daniel Lee owes him an apology for acting like a giant asshole for sure, 100% and not only idra but also me as a viewer, as someone who has followed e-sports from the begining. I just realized how many incorrect things you posted. 1)I'm kissing idras ass , LOL , ya dude definately. Idra is a prick but he is a fucking sick gamer. 2)idra doesn't have the skills to be on a korean pro team (lol like you even understand broodwar well enough to make that comment) 3) CJ is trying to appear open minded (lol), ok that one is a left fielder 4)they are upset over that move.... easily fixed if they wanted too. Not like the world would protest them getting ride of him if they wanted too. 5)Brings shame to your country?... umm america is shamed internationally on so many other topics that maybe you should stop making horribly ignorant posts on a video game forum and go work on those issues. 6)He doesn't belong in korea, is that a racist comment? Why wouldn't a professional video game player be in korea is the soil there somehow superior to ours? I don't understand that stupid line at all, even in context its part of an ignorant rambling 7) Idra is an embarassment, lol, to who? If idra is an embarassment it is only to himself, idra is no way reflects on me as an american gamer but who knows maybe you dress like him and mimic his style so he is a bad role model for you but as far as I'm concerned he is a video game player who doesn't reflect on me at all or my country or cj. you post badly =(. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
On June 08 2009 18:01 SaharaDrac wrote: blablablabla. Talk about an immature rant ... maybe you should delete your account and not waste more bytes of TL storage since this is a discussion forum, not a playground for some raving strumpet throwing a tantrum.  Idra is a polarizing figure and yes, one could object to his BM in the foreign scene but that does not take away that he's representing "your" country by working his SC-ass off 13 hrs/day and is posting results (albeit not publicly against other pro's). Personally I think that 's worthy of respect, nothing is absolutely black or white. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
I read his reasoning, and it's plausible, but it still doesn't justify the fact that he IS BM in other games (including an earlier Valor game against MaNa) and he IS disrespecting all of the work that SDM did for him. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
But take one thing for granted: With his attitude he will never reach his goals. But maybe his goals are getting rekrulish who knows ? What so ever. If Idra starts crying now because SDM BM'ed him it would be ridicolous. No offense but sometimes i cant get away this image of Idra being a totally spoiled person and that he probably was such a spoiled child with no manners in his youn age as well.. whatever.. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On June 08 2009 19:30 MaGic~PhiL wrote: What happened is the best thing ever. If Idra doesnt change now ( slightly ) he probably never will.. But take one thing for granted: With his attitude he will never reach his goals. But maybe his goals are getting rekrulish who knows ? What so ever. If Idra starts crying now because SDM BM'ed him it would be ridicolous. No offense but sometimes i cant get away this image of Idra being a totally spoiled person and that he probably was such a spoiled child with no manners in his youn age as well.. whatever.. That's not what most of us are getting at. If SDM wanted to put IdrA in his place, all the more power to him. But don't do it on a stream that many of us were eager to watch then get all angry and refuse to cast a game. EDIT: Spelling -_- now =/= not | ||
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Ro[]t
Sweden147 Posts
*Reminder, read next time | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On June 08 2009 05:15 7mk wrote: omg .. wow , sry but Im not gonna repeat myself I answerd that specific point several times already. ( In fact I answered this point on this very page...) Uhh i don't care what your answer is lol? Why is your opinion on the matter more valid than anyone elses, you are making it sound like you are actually involved but you are just speculating like anyone else. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
He answered his question truthfully, and Tasteless and SDM even said the same thing later. SDM is a shitty caster anyway. Can we get Artosis/Tasteless PLEASE. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Maybe I feel stronger about this because I'm one of the many targets from IdrA's bm. I definately feel that he deserved those words. | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On June 08 2009 20:51 StylishVODs wrote: Although I can understand that some people think SDM overreacted, I find it kind of funny that when someone else for once is being bm to IdrA, he all of a sudden deserves an apology. Maybe I feel stronger about this because I'm one of the many targets from IdrA's bm. I definately feel that he deserved those words. i think i remember what u r talking about, i think he was just defending artosis and tasteless which eventually turned into a boiled argument and he bmed you. if it was this i think you should let it go, but if there were other incidents nevermind me | ||
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Hydrolisko
Vanuatu1659 Posts
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Hydrolisko
Vanuatu1659 Posts
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Did SDM overreact to years of BM? No It simply was the straw that broke the Camels back. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On June 08 2009 20:51 StylishVODs wrote: Although I can understand that some people think SDM overreacted, I find it kind of funny that when someone else for once is being bm to IdrA, he all of a sudden deserves an apology. Maybe I feel stronger about this because I'm one of the many targets from IdrA's bm. I definately feel that he deserved those words. It's not for how he reacted, like I said. I'm all for SDM putting IdrA in his place. Just not while I'm trying to enjoy a game. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 08 2009 21:14 We Are Here wrote: i think i remember what u r talking about, i think he was just defending artosis and tasteless which eventually turned into a boiled argument and he bmed you. if it was this i think you should let it go, but if there were other incidents nevermind me It's far from the only time. He's called me a stupid player and stupid irl person plenty of times. He's been very bm to alot of people for a long time, that why I feel he deserves it. He definately doesn't deserve an apology, however we might deserve one from SDM because he ruined the cast abit for us. | ||
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